Amy wants you to know she is just taking this time to focus on her own recovery. She needed a break..........
She misses all her buddies here, and will be back in a few days.
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The beginning days of recovery are different for everyone. But most of us feel (or felt) fragile and confused while treading through our first days of being clean. Anything that happens on this board that lends to those feelings is very unproductive and not in keeping with the purpose of this board. I pray that we can do better to be more aware of how our actions and words can affect those we should be trying to help. Just my 2 cents...Carol
AWESOME! Please tell her that she is in my thoughts and prayers...
And one question. How many B-12 do I take daily?
Thanks TDMOM!
GHF...
And one question. How many B-12 do I take daily?
Thanks TDMOM!
GHF...
Dear Carol...You have my E mail if Redd would like it PLEASE give it to her & let her know(((((hugs)))))with all my heart...mollyjean
GHF.........I just take the recommended daily amount. don't know for sure, it's on the bottle. A lot on here recommend the lozenges that dissolve under tongue. I just use the tablets. I will pass ur msg to Redd.......
Also......tina and mj........i'll give her your adys.......
Thanks Carol, for the update.....and send her some love from me........
Oh and you got mail.......
You have a good one!
Oh and you got mail.......
You have a good one!
I'm having major guilt over Amy right now because I think I'm responsible for what happend. Please tell her that I think about her every day and that I'm so sorry for anything I might have said that caused her grief. I've had a lot of time to think it over and have changed my postition drastically on Suboxone. Wish I'd never opened my big mouth in the first place...
My email is at the bottom of this post..Please, Amy, put me out of my misery.
Cowgirl
My email is at the bottom of this post..Please, Amy, put me out of my misery.
Cowgirl
CG.......i don't think she is even reading the board, but i will be sure she gets your message. thanks! don't be too hard on yourself. : )
Cowgirl,
I see what you are saying and it was probably me and not you that caused her to feel bad and Amy I am sorry for that.I have alpologized to Danielle about everything that was said the other day about her profession and I hope you return to the board when you are ready. I hope everything works out for you, I truly do.
As far as the sub topic goes I am staying out of it from now on. Everyone must do what is best for them. Same goes for Methadone. If someone wants to take it in the detox process and thinks it will work then more power to them. I have to learn to shut my big mouth. Just because something didn't work for me doesn't mean it won't work for someone else. I hate seeing good people leave the board,goes for you to Bob and anyone else that feels this way! We are all in this together and so many of us are like family. Hell I talk to you all more than I do my own family, so lets all get along and help each other through this.Rae
I see what you are saying and it was probably me and not you that caused her to feel bad and Amy I am sorry for that.I have alpologized to Danielle about everything that was said the other day about her profession and I hope you return to the board when you are ready. I hope everything works out for you, I truly do.
As far as the sub topic goes I am staying out of it from now on. Everyone must do what is best for them. Same goes for Methadone. If someone wants to take it in the detox process and thinks it will work then more power to them. I have to learn to shut my big mouth. Just because something didn't work for me doesn't mean it won't work for someone else. I hate seeing good people leave the board,goes for you to Bob and anyone else that feels this way! We are all in this together and so many of us are like family. Hell I talk to you all more than I do my own family, so lets all get along and help each other through this.Rae
Thanks Carol..I want to clarify for everyone else what it is I said that I think got Amy upset...
I had responded to a thread that Mitzi started about how she had 30 days clean (she's on Suboxone), and I posted back saying how proud I was of her and was she going to meetings and even though she wasn't clean because of the Sub, ....yadda yadda yadda...
Since then I've talked with a few people in my home group and my sponsor about the whole Sub issue. I've been wrong. I understand now, that anyone who is taking Sub to get clean is taking it as prescribed and doing whatever it takes to get off of the drugs. They are clean and they are in recovery. Everyone does it different. It just takes what it takes. That is something that has been said to me since I first joined NA. So I think that's what they mean.
I'm so sorry everyone for any pain or heartache I caused.
I truely believe though, that EVERYONE has a right to their opinions. I respect theirs.
Love Cowgirl
I had responded to a thread that Mitzi started about how she had 30 days clean (she's on Suboxone), and I posted back saying how proud I was of her and was she going to meetings and even though she wasn't clean because of the Sub, ....yadda yadda yadda...
Since then I've talked with a few people in my home group and my sponsor about the whole Sub issue. I've been wrong. I understand now, that anyone who is taking Sub to get clean is taking it as prescribed and doing whatever it takes to get off of the drugs. They are clean and they are in recovery. Everyone does it different. It just takes what it takes. That is something that has been said to me since I first joined NA. So I think that's what they mean.
I'm so sorry everyone for any pain or heartache I caused.
I truely believe though, that EVERYONE has a right to their opinions. I respect theirs.
Love Cowgirl
cowgirl,
your heart is always in the right place, i know your posts are never directed to bring harm to anyone. please unserstand that being a newbie is a very sensative time, we all were one and we all took things to heart unintentionally. it happens. it has happened before and it will happen again. if we all stop posting from our hearts then it defeats the purpose. for those who were hurt yeah it sucks. but thats just how it is in recovery. there will always be misunderstandings. i feel bad for redd too. she will realise soon that it was a misunderstanding and she will be back her spunky self. i did it i know we all have felt slighted. unless you specificly named names dont beat yourself up over it. there is a difference. i certainly myself dont want to come here and have to annalyse every word i post before i post it. it defeats the whole meaning. we all are so different in how we take things. that is not on you. i think you get my point. i think i know redd well enough that she will come around. i think its so cool of you to take the time and explain as well. i just wish all the people that it doesnt directly involve would just see things from the same point of view and need feel a need to keep pointing fingers and attacking needlessly to keep the anomosity going. its really ashame.
terrianne
your heart is always in the right place, i know your posts are never directed to bring harm to anyone. please unserstand that being a newbie is a very sensative time, we all were one and we all took things to heart unintentionally. it happens. it has happened before and it will happen again. if we all stop posting from our hearts then it defeats the purpose. for those who were hurt yeah it sucks. but thats just how it is in recovery. there will always be misunderstandings. i feel bad for redd too. she will realise soon that it was a misunderstanding and she will be back her spunky self. i did it i know we all have felt slighted. unless you specificly named names dont beat yourself up over it. there is a difference. i certainly myself dont want to come here and have to annalyse every word i post before i post it. it defeats the whole meaning. we all are so different in how we take things. that is not on you. i think you get my point. i think i know redd well enough that she will come around. i think its so cool of you to take the time and explain as well. i just wish all the people that it doesnt directly involve would just see things from the same point of view and need feel a need to keep pointing fingers and attacking needlessly to keep the anomosity going. its really ashame.
terrianne
cowgirl.........just wanted to say how cool it is of you to step up to the plate here. I know it's not always easy to do what you are doing here, and I admire you for it. It will mean a lot to many, including Redd. Thanks, really.
I honestly do not know what specifically upset Redd. But hearing so much talk of how she "wasn't clean", was "in denial"...etc etc is a large part of it. She has worked very hard these past 30 days after many previous failed attempts. She is taking this attempt very seriously and was very proud of how far she has come.
So many people rely heavily on this board as a huge part of their recovery. It is a great loss to those who feel belittled and judged and feel like they no longer have the support here they have come to depend on. That is sad. I don't know what the answer is, I just know it's not right. Thanks again for reaching out to Amy. I know she will appreciate it.
I think Terrianne said it best... newbies will always misunderstand and get their feelings hurt.... I do now feel like I have to read and re-read evey post I send out so that I won't say something that someone might or might not misconstrue... but then, I wouldn't be me, would I? My brand of recovery has (hoprfully) helped a lot of people here and I won't be changing it anytime soon. BUT, I am big enough to admit when I'm wrong and to change my views. I'm also big enough to apologize when I've really screwed up. That's part of my recovery and my growth. 9 months ago, I would not have cared.
Boo..I love you buddy. Thanks for being there.
Cowgirl
Boo..I love you buddy. Thanks for being there.
Cowgirl
Cowgirl,
You know that my hubby is on sub, and that he may be on indefinately.....He hasn't been reading much........His opinion of sub and how great he feels to be lucky enough to be on it collides alittle with some other views......It was the last house on the street for him.......I am gonna make sure he reads this thread tonight, and what you wrote......I am sure he will be happy, just as I was when I read your words.......
Thank you for taking the time to ask questions, and learn alittle about sub. And then to share it with all of us. I hope it enlightens some and gives them and understanding of things.
You take care.....
Love,
Tina
You know that my hubby is on sub, and that he may be on indefinately.....He hasn't been reading much........His opinion of sub and how great he feels to be lucky enough to be on it collides alittle with some other views......It was the last house on the street for him.......I am gonna make sure he reads this thread tonight, and what you wrote......I am sure he will be happy, just as I was when I read your words.......
Thank you for taking the time to ask questions, and learn alittle about sub. And then to share it with all of us. I hope it enlightens some and gives them and understanding of things.
You take care.....
Love,
Tina
Just saw this Tina and it made me cry... thank you.
I hope that your husband is doing well and tell him that he's missed on the board.
Love
Cowgirl
I hope that your husband is doing well and tell him that he's missed on the board.
Love
Cowgirl
Cowgirl,
I second what trideltmom said, what you have just posted is really cool and very admirable. By deepening your understanding of others views, you have shown your compassion to be genuine and honest..... I'm sure you will touch many hearts who read this thread.
Hugs
Charmed
I second what trideltmom said, what you have just posted is really cool and very admirable. By deepening your understanding of others views, you have shown your compassion to be genuine and honest..... I'm sure you will touch many hearts who read this thread.
Hugs
Charmed
