My son did a 28 day in patient after a five day hospital detox. He has relapsed
twice and I think we are on number three... I asked him why he wasn't having any w/d's and he said he wouldn't have any w/d's just the few times he used. I know he is using again...long story...my question is how bad are the w/d's if he isn't using at the level or frequency he had been before his inpatient. He is 18, and is smoking the stuff. We have told him he can't live here if he isn't going to stay clean, but I don't know where he would go, except to his drug buddies. And that isn't going to help him. He learned about his disease in treatment and knows what he needs to do, meetings and sponsor. I posted here because I wanted input from the "experts" if you will. I have read about the physical w/d symptons and the OTC things that can help. But what about the "mental cravings?" any advice there. I am at the end of my rope, I know he needs to hit "bottom", but that scares me to death and am hoping I can get some advice as to some other options, rather than him leaving. I've been told it's not kicking him out, that he made the choice, boy that is easier said than done. Thanks for any help you can give.
Kerry
HI Kerr,
First of all I'm really sorry that you have to go through this, your son is truly lucky top have you as a support system and hopefully one day he'll realize that. I don't have all of the answers to your questions, I really just wanted to tell you that last year I went through 4 rehabs before finally getting clean so even though you feel like your at the end of your rope.. please try to stay strong. I'm not telling you to kick him out or to let him stay since I really don't know what the answer is but I am telling you that h e does need you as a support system and a mother. I have been clean since last June so I just want you to know that it is a possibility... so please don't give up. I'm sure some of the other members have been in similar situations and will be able to answer your questions but pleae keep posting, you came to the right place and your not alone. Best of Luck ..
First of all I'm really sorry that you have to go through this, your son is truly lucky top have you as a support system and hopefully one day he'll realize that. I don't have all of the answers to your questions, I really just wanted to tell you that last year I went through 4 rehabs before finally getting clean so even though you feel like your at the end of your rope.. please try to stay strong. I'm not telling you to kick him out or to let him stay since I really don't know what the answer is but I am telling you that h e does need you as a support system and a mother. I have been clean since last June so I just want you to know that it is a possibility... so please don't give up. I'm sure some of the other members have been in similar situations and will be able to answer your questions but pleae keep posting, you came to the right place and your not alone. Best of Luck ..
Oh Kerr, you are in for a bumpy ride, sounds like you've already been doing just that though. Oxys are tough, the mental cravings can last for a long time. If you think hes using again, odds are he is. His age is a factor too, kids think they are immortal at 18, he probably says "I know, I know" alot, and thinks he can handle it. If hes using still, his tolerance level is building as well, which means hes using more to catch the buzz.
Is he actively talking to a sponsor? He needs to do the work to get and stay clean. I don't know what to tell you as far as his living arrangements, but keep in mind, people do what they do because they can.
I hoped I helped a little.
Redd
Is he actively talking to a sponsor? He needs to do the work to get and stay clean. I don't know what to tell you as far as his living arrangements, but keep in mind, people do what they do because they can.
I hoped I helped a little.
Redd
Rach
Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate it. Somedays it is soooo hard to keep the Hope going. I am so suspicious of everything he does. I have been trying to "Let go and Let God". When he got home last night, he had a reasonable explanation for all the things that had made me suspicious he had been using again...his missing playstation I thought he had sold for money he had loaned to a friend....his behaviour at his soccer practice towards his coach and friend, seemed reasonable after he explained his side of the story. The last thing in the world I want to do is send him packing. but I seem to be looking for every little thing he does to be relapsed related. He has always had "reasonable" explanations when he was using and I was clueless. Well I'm not clueless anymore. It is so easy for him to get the oxycontin if he wants it, and that just blows my mind in and of itself.
I really would like to know what kind of w/d's he should be going through if he used a few times and has stopped again. The first time he had the leg aches, cold sweats, bowel issues, racing heart and mind. We have done the store bought drug tests and I don't have alot of faith in those. He has admitted they have been negative when they should have been positive. This time he seems to be pushing me away, doesn't want to talk to me about his recovery, and gets very defensive when I try to talk to him about meetings and the steps.
I found this board looking for information on suboxone. He relapsed, and tried to monkey his urine test that his outpatient gave him, they discharged him. Turns out a fellow outpatient about his age was smoking him out!! He has the idea that sub is all he needs and life will be normal again! I am so glad I found this site, I have really got an education on suboxone. I have tried to get him to take a look at the posts here re: sub, he wants nothing to do with it.
Well I have rambled, thanks for listening, got to get to work. IT is so nice to be able to see things from the "other" side, and people who are actively trying to work a program.
Kerry
Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate it. Somedays it is soooo hard to keep the Hope going. I am so suspicious of everything he does. I have been trying to "Let go and Let God". When he got home last night, he had a reasonable explanation for all the things that had made me suspicious he had been using again...his missing playstation I thought he had sold for money he had loaned to a friend....his behaviour at his soccer practice towards his coach and friend, seemed reasonable after he explained his side of the story. The last thing in the world I want to do is send him packing. but I seem to be looking for every little thing he does to be relapsed related. He has always had "reasonable" explanations when he was using and I was clueless. Well I'm not clueless anymore. It is so easy for him to get the oxycontin if he wants it, and that just blows my mind in and of itself.
I really would like to know what kind of w/d's he should be going through if he used a few times and has stopped again. The first time he had the leg aches, cold sweats, bowel issues, racing heart and mind. We have done the store bought drug tests and I don't have alot of faith in those. He has admitted they have been negative when they should have been positive. This time he seems to be pushing me away, doesn't want to talk to me about his recovery, and gets very defensive when I try to talk to him about meetings and the steps.
I found this board looking for information on suboxone. He relapsed, and tried to monkey his urine test that his outpatient gave him, they discharged him. Turns out a fellow outpatient about his age was smoking him out!! He has the idea that sub is all he needs and life will be normal again! I am so glad I found this site, I have really got an education on suboxone. I have tried to get him to take a look at the posts here re: sub, he wants nothing to do with it.
Well I have rambled, thanks for listening, got to get to work. IT is so nice to be able to see things from the "other" side, and people who are actively trying to work a program.
Kerry
Thank you Redd
You got it, he knows all! Bumpy doesn't even begin to describe the ride we have been on! He talked to someone last Thursday at a meeting about being a sponsor, the left a message Sunday night, I guess they had made plans to go to a meeting and my son "spaced" it, wasn't home. I told him he needed to call him and say sorry about missing him, but needless to say, he hasn't. Thanks again Redd, I really do need to get going lol! I'll be back tho!
Kerry
You got it, he knows all! Bumpy doesn't even begin to describe the ride we have been on! He talked to someone last Thursday at a meeting about being a sponsor, the left a message Sunday night, I guess they had made plans to go to a meeting and my son "spaced" it, wasn't home. I told him he needed to call him and say sorry about missing him, but needless to say, he hasn't. Thanks again Redd, I really do need to get going lol! I'll be back tho!
Kerry
