How long do you guys think it will be before I feel better? I can't remember how long....I was depressed and tired for a long time...I have a month off from work. I hate to go back on an Ad but if I am real depressed afterward....does anyone have any sugggestions on one that does NOT add weight. I have lost 10 lbs. and it has helped my back pain considerably.7 days detox and then home for 3-4 weeks...it is a start. I already have a list of NA meetings. Tony has to understand that I will be entirely focused on getting well..not trying out new recipesLOL and housecleaning...I spoiled him allright...my life is going to change soon and I am looking forward to it...even the discomfort...so sick of it all. Thanks...Love, S
Sharonn, I hope my husband doesn't read here and see where you cook new recipes. He might get some wild idea and want me cook tonight. Not happening especially with the granbabies here this weekend. LOL Anyways back to your question I would definitely give yourself time after detox to see how you feel before going on a a/d. I was out of work for a few months after I went c/t and was very depressed. My doctor tried quite a few different a/d on me and I found lexapro worked the best for me. I stayed on it for a few months and then one day decided I would give it a go without them. I had no problem coming off of them and feel great. Alot of my depression was me allowing myself to feel depressed. I started little by little finding the positive in my life and to this day if I am feeling depressed I think of all I have to be thankful for in my life. It works. You are doing a great thing for yourself. Think positive thoughts. Shantel
Sharon We spoke recently. Detox? then your home? 3-4 weeks? ???
Why cant you commit to a good REHAB? Man Rehab has changed for the better. The disease is now treated like a freakin disease.
we are not freaks--losers lazy weak in the mind --looking for the easy way out.
Its proven addiction is a chemical imbalance of the brain.
Man you have to be nuts not to get your self into rehab if you can.
There is no You do not understand I cant go away for 28 days--That's a cop Out IMO
Sharon get mad at me but you need to get yourself into a INTENSE programp--some 7-10 day detox is a waste of your time and will fail IMO.
You need to stop making excuses and start realizing "Your way does not work"
Sharon Chronic pain patients like you and I have an added issue to our daily life.
Its your call. Run to an A/D cause your depressed? Maybe its needed maybe not--but a doctor is the one to answer that question.
I was really depressed and until I accepted my life --pain -health issues and STOPPED PROJECTING --STOPPED doing things MY WAY and realized I was pissing my life away.
You have been posting here for a long time.
I tried to talk to you once and you kept cutting off telling me Jeff I CANNOT do that.
Well Sharon until you can do any and everything to get sober you will stay in this up and down life of yours IMO--IO only say this cause I was doing the same thing.
One day I stopped doing things my way and slowly things got better.
God Bless-Sharon.
Jeff
Why cant you commit to a good REHAB? Man Rehab has changed for the better. The disease is now treated like a freakin disease.
we are not freaks--losers lazy weak in the mind --looking for the easy way out.
Its proven addiction is a chemical imbalance of the brain.
Man you have to be nuts not to get your self into rehab if you can.
There is no You do not understand I cant go away for 28 days--That's a cop Out IMO
Sharon get mad at me but you need to get yourself into a INTENSE programp--some 7-10 day detox is a waste of your time and will fail IMO.
You need to stop making excuses and start realizing "Your way does not work"
Sharon Chronic pain patients like you and I have an added issue to our daily life.
Its your call. Run to an A/D cause your depressed? Maybe its needed maybe not--but a doctor is the one to answer that question.
I was really depressed and until I accepted my life --pain -health issues and STOPPED PROJECTING --STOPPED doing things MY WAY and realized I was pissing my life away.
You have been posting here for a long time.
I tried to talk to you once and you kept cutting off telling me Jeff I CANNOT do that.
Well Sharon until you can do any and everything to get sober you will stay in this up and down life of yours IMO--IO only say this cause I was doing the same thing.
One day I stopped doing things my way and slowly things got better.
God Bless-Sharon.
Jeff
I would love to be able to afford a month.....Right now I am putting my home in a financial bind as I will probably loe my job. So if I am willing to do thi...I don't think it is fair saying it is a cop out. A cop out would be me continuing to taper at home cause I don't want to deal with it. I don't yet I am still going. Not everyone can afford it. I applied for their scholarship program and do not qualify. you must have a "real" job and I work off the books.You know...I am beating a dead horse here...this is the best I can do right now and I would appreciate positive feedback...what is the point of negativity...for God's sake...I am in pain and still gonna do it...not even switch to sub...just get off everything. Maybe I'm crazy but I think one could call that an effort. WTH? BTW Jeff...I will NOT fail and I believe in myself 100 %..yes...a rehab would be the best..I have looked into a lot in the last few weeks...I am not defending myself anymore. Either you wish me well or you don't.I don't intend to do it "my way"///I intend to follow thru this time with weekly meetings and a sponsor. Not good enough? Oh well.
Geez sometimes I wonder. Sharon its really simple. Its your life. You have steel rods in your back. You have chronic diseases like me.
Rods in back I have hip replacements need elbow /shoulder and knee replacements.
You have Lupus I have more diseases THAN i CARE TO SHARE DUE TO MY PAST.
I can stop living and give in to the pain or FIGHT. I only base my opinion on you telling me you cant got to rehab? for a lousy 28 days? shoot girl you need a lot of help. A detox?
Go do it. Sharon normally I would just say okay whatever but not with you.
I spoke with you on the phone and all you did was tell me WHY SHARON CANT Do this and cant do that.
This is not negative but one thing about you I have learned is your very sensitive. So that make me a wrong type of personality to speak with.
If you want the cold truth you e-mail me.
Otherwise I pray anther addict falls into your life to help you improve your quality of life.
I am not the right person for you.
All the best--Jeff
Sharon Good luck
Rods in back I have hip replacements need elbow /shoulder and knee replacements.
You have Lupus I have more diseases THAN i CARE TO SHARE DUE TO MY PAST.
I can stop living and give in to the pain or FIGHT. I only base my opinion on you telling me you cant got to rehab? for a lousy 28 days? shoot girl you need a lot of help. A detox?
Go do it. Sharon normally I would just say okay whatever but not with you.
I spoke with you on the phone and all you did was tell me WHY SHARON CANT Do this and cant do that.
This is not negative but one thing about you I have learned is your very sensitive. So that make me a wrong type of personality to speak with.
If you want the cold truth you e-mail me.
Otherwise I pray anther addict falls into your life to help you improve your quality of life.
I am not the right person for you.
All the best--Jeff
Sharon Good luck
I cannot afford it. What don't you understand? I have no insurance. I am not making excuses or I would stay on my pain meds because I do take them as rxed. It is like talking to a wall. I don't mean to be a smartass but would you like me to pull the $$ out of my a**. I was on the phone with the Caron Foundation and many other rehabs, They all have scolarship programs. I could probably go to a free one somewhere if I kept looking but I want this over with....so I am not putting it off. I intend to get aftercare counseling and so forth. My sister was going to lend me the $$ for Caron as it is a phenomenal place..but she backed out adter fighting with her husband. Why do you keep pushing this....show me the way and I'll go...if not please stop acting as if I am a liar and making excuses...I can feel my pressure going up.Tony has been out of work for almost 8 weeks and Aflac turned down his claim.We are having financial problems right now. An excuse? Maybe you have a lot of $$ but I don't.Expalin to me "It is really simple"..we are barely making the mortgage payments...Tony has one useful arm.....I am in debt and am still going to the best place I can afford..despite the fact it is a dump(been there). Instead of saying f8*k it..I am doing it. I said I would stop defending myself and instead I am getting drawn into an argument which is now becoming a huge trigger...not good for me. Good night Jeff.
Sharon you CANNOT afford to stop seeking the BEST TREATMENT Available.
Sharon there is help out there for all of us some must fight a bit harder.
I am sorry you take this all negative when I am just trying to help you.
You say You CANNOT well if I had your attitude I would be Dead.
You get a sponsor and stick like glue to the program until you find a better way to treat your pain.
Find someone in AA who has something in common with you. You need to FIGHT HARD DAILY for recovery--
Its an awful disease and takes a lot of hard work to beat it back into remission.
Jeff
Sharon there is help out there for all of us some must fight a bit harder.
I am sorry you take this all negative when I am just trying to help you.
You say You CANNOT well if I had your attitude I would be Dead.
You get a sponsor and stick like glue to the program until you find a better way to treat your pain.
Find someone in AA who has something in common with you. You need to FIGHT HARD DAILY for recovery--
Its an awful disease and takes a lot of hard work to beat it back into remission.
Jeff
Good luck with your detox Sharonn. I will keep you in my prayers. I hope everything goes well with you and I do see you trying hard to get off the pills. You have made yourself a plan and if you stick to it you will be doing good.
Sharon $$$ had nothing to do with me getting on sub.. $$$$ had nothing to do with me stopping my actions of doing things MY WAY
The only reason I am writing this to you is I care.
I am the one who got myself into full blown addiction and Its only I who can pull me out of having this disease control my life.
I am sorry to upset you.
But Sharon if you want to get your life back you must stop making excuses and FIGHT --You are a dual diagnosis patient.
Pain--depression and no meds will keep you pain free. Opiates will only increase your pain and make you more depressed.
You need AA until you find a program to enable you to provide an eduction enabling you to improve your quality of life..
This board can also provide you with much support. Embrace the board the !2 steps and hopefully some program opens up for you
Jeff
The only reason I am writing this to you is I care.
I am the one who got myself into full blown addiction and Its only I who can pull me out of having this disease control my life.
I am sorry to upset you.
But Sharon if you want to get your life back you must stop making excuses and FIGHT --You are a dual diagnosis patient.
Pain--depression and no meds will keep you pain free. Opiates will only increase your pain and make you more depressed.
You need AA until you find a program to enable you to provide an eduction enabling you to improve your quality of life..
This board can also provide you with much support. Embrace the board the !2 steps and hopefully some program opens up for you
Jeff
Thank you for the SUPPORT Stephanie...how are you? Haven't seen you around much...hope all is well....Love, S
Jeff...for the last time...I am not lashing out...you keep saying that I am copping out by going to detox...if I don't have the $$ what is your answer?Do you have a solution or are you continually going to repeat the same thing over and over. I am an intelligent woman Jeff...I understand what you are saying and have not disagreed that rehab is my best bet, But you tell me who will take me for free and I will show up. if you have an answer to the questiom...fine. If not,,,stop insulting my intelligence. I know how addiction kills...I have lost a few good friends and a father...Do I seem like I am in denial to you? Does it look as if I am making up excuses...I can't just "show up" at my rehab of choice(in your words the best medical care) and they will welcome me with open arms. It's all about the $$. Believe me..I would go to the Caron Foundation in a NY minute. You are not talking to a first time addict, nor a kid. I have been around the block and then some. You do not NEED to convince me of anything...I never disagreed with you. I do not have the money. What is SO hard to understand? detox may not be the perfect solution but for me it is better than what I have been doing...I think you like confrontation and no matter how I say it..you come back with the SAME thing. I always prided myself on my communication skills but evidently...they are lacking. I KNOW what you are saying is right........now...if you cannot understand this then I give up.I haven't "stopped" looking for the best care...I am in financial bind and have to work WITHIN MY LIMITS.This is the best I can do right now and you are really not helping this way.....you are just aggravating the crap out of me as whatever I say is falling on deaf ears.Are you hearing me at all?
Hi, I am new here although I have been reading for awhile and learned some valuable aids to help in detox. I am in a spontaneous remission from a terrible bladder disorder. I hate these drugs! I have tapered from 260mgs of Oxycontin with 10mg percoset for break through to 30mgs. of Oxycontin and 10 mgs. of percoset. I understand I do not have the craving--I hate the way they make me feel and I hate the constipation and all the crap that goes with it. They did however give me back my life but now that I am in remission I can't get off fast enough. So, Sharon you said you never went over the dosage you were prescribed for pain. Why do you want to get off them and why can't you taper? I know it is a long process and often feels really bad. I worry that you are not being honest with yourself. I don't know you so if I am wrong I apologize. I will keep you in my prayers--Irish
PS I have been on these drugs for over 7 years!
PS I have been on these drugs for over 7 years!
Hi Sharonn, I am doing fine. I have been "lurking" around reading. Haven't really felt in the mood to post though. I wish you well in your detox and I will be saying prayers for you when you go.
Sharon, you know the drill. The detox is the easy part. Just cover your bases. Good luck.
Sharonn,
I've been in detox twice. The first time I went I was scared to death when I first got there. But by the end of the week I didn't want to leave. I found that I had barely any w/d symptoms in detox. I actually enjoyed it once I relaxed. I know that sounds crazy. The hard part came when I got home and although my husband was very sweet and gentle with me I felt depressed and unmotivated. I did go on an a/d which helped a lot. I think it took about a full month before I felt considerably better. But during that month, although I didn't have much energy, felt better just having made a start in the right direction. You will get your energy and zest for life back. Each day will be a little better. I made a list while in detox of how bad and anxious I felt in the months leading up to my entering detox. Then after detox when I would feel weak or depressed I would get out my list and read it. It helped me remember that no matter how bad I was feeling it was a million times better then when I was using. I'll keep you in my prayers.
Love, Shelly
I've been in detox twice. The first time I went I was scared to death when I first got there. But by the end of the week I didn't want to leave. I found that I had barely any w/d symptoms in detox. I actually enjoyed it once I relaxed. I know that sounds crazy. The hard part came when I got home and although my husband was very sweet and gentle with me I felt depressed and unmotivated. I did go on an a/d which helped a lot. I think it took about a full month before I felt considerably better. But during that month, although I didn't have much energy, felt better just having made a start in the right direction. You will get your energy and zest for life back. Each day will be a little better. I made a list while in detox of how bad and anxious I felt in the months leading up to my entering detox. Then after detox when I would feel weak or depressed I would get out my list and read it. It helped me remember that no matter how bad I was feeling it was a million times better then when I was using. I'll keep you in my prayers.
Love, Shelly
Sharon, I feel for you and just want you to know that I am rooting for you. I know that your situation is so hard; having real pain and hating the meds is not a fun place to be.
Be kind to yourself and I am praying for you.
Be kind to yourself and I am praying for you.
Thank you all....I will be ok...Love, S
If you need an ad that has the property of not putting on weight, you might try Zoloft. It works for some to lose weight although that didn't happen for me. My maintenance dose of 50 mg seems to work well. I'm not a zombie, but neither do I get depressed most of the time. Best of luck.
No Sharon its me who misunderstood as you told me YOU CANT leave for 28 days.
I heard everything you said and you communicated just fine. I am really sorry you take my concerns as "aggravating the crap out of you"
I misunderstood what you said on the phone about being able to go away to Rehab. Why detox yea and Rehab no? I guess I missed something
Aggravating you? That's a heck pf a way of putting it.
Sorry to aggravate----Trust me I will not aggravate you anymore -
Good luck --Jeff
I heard everything you said and you communicated just fine. I am really sorry you take my concerns as "aggravating the crap out of you"
I misunderstood what you said on the phone about being able to go away to Rehab. Why detox yea and Rehab no? I guess I missed something
Aggravating you? That's a heck pf a way of putting it.
Sorry to aggravate----Trust me I will not aggravate you anymore -
Good luck --Jeff
You stll haven't answered the question Jeff...Why is that? 7 days was all I could borrow..it is only about the $$not an excuse.It is a cold hard fact. I can say it 10 different ways but it won't matter. I just quit my job so I can devote the time to recovery. Why do you insist on posting w/o addressing the financial issues? Is that an excuse? Or is rehab free? If you are going to say I am making excuses then respond to a solution instead of beating a dead horse. What is the solution in your opininion if I don't have the resources. Put if off longer until I can locate a fre rehab(not imposible) or get it over with. I know I will feel like crap when I get home and I have every intention of getting a sponsor and going to meetings. I think it's a pretty good plan for someone who has been playing the taper game for months. For me to quit my job means that there is only one priority. YOUR way is not the only way Jeff...people have gotten well with at home CT....detoxes....12 step....no 12 step....Sub. You suggested to me on the phone to get on sub(I believe...correct me if I am wrong) Do you really think that is a better solution than totally getting off EVERYTHING. I disagree. It works for many and I am happy that it does but for me it is just another thing to get off. I went to detox 2 years ago. Stayed clean until a flare up involving shingles. Yes...I have to have a plan when the pain hits. Obviously opiates are not the answer and thinking that I could use them in a controlled way is crazy. You are very stubborn...you also keep going on and on about how I should live in warmer weather(i.e. Florida) Jeff...this again is what's best for YOU.....I cannot go in the sun....#2 the humidity is hell on my Lupus pain. No one is disputing your willingness to help but I feel you have tunnelvision when it comes to the "hows' of it. Does this make any sense to you?
