Hey guys... went to the clinic this morning all set to get put on the buprenorphine after being told by the addiction counsellor that this was the plan.. the set up in the clinic is that there is an addiction counsellor who is there mon to fri and on fri mornings a doctor sits with her to see all us addicts.. anyway, up we went this morning only for us to be told that the doc wouldn't see me at all... he took Cian (other half) in and has put him on a meth script... doc's plan is for Cian to stabilise on the meth and then he'll start to taper him down.. in the meantime the addiction counsellor is in the corridor with me explaining that the doc doesn't feel that meth is the right thing for me.. coz I used to work in the public health sector here he doesn't want me to go on any programme... doc said that he wouldn't want my name down on a treatment list or my picture on a treatment card as it could go against me in the future.. I'm f**kin furious at this stage.. what the hell am I meant to do now... I really thought for the first time in ages that I was going to get somewhere coz I've read all the posts here about the buph or subbies (I'll call them subbies from now on coz it's easier) and read loads on the net about them and they seem to really work for people..
I don't know what to do now or where to turn.. the clinics here are related to where you live so there isn't another one that I can turn to.. as far as I know local gp's can't prescribe subbies - please correct me if I'm wrong people... the last time I went to my gp about this he gave me some anti depressant that wasn't worth piss (excuse my expression).. I'm suicidal here, feels like I've nowhere to turn.. how can that a****** refuse to treat me just because of where I used to work.. what sort of crap is that.. I don't understand how they can take Cian on and not me, our habits are exactly the same.. I should have known after being let down with the lofexideine course that the same thing would happen again this morning.. I'm sitting here with the yellow pages in front of me looking up doc's in my area - I'm thinking of ringing around to see if any of them would prescribe me subbies but the logical side of me is telling myself that that's ridiculous - nobody is going to tell me over the telephone, they'll want me to come in and see them and at 60 euro a shot to see a doctor that's out the window too...
I'm just going to have to cop on to myself and go through this on my own... if I'm real with myself it's not as bad as I make it out to be, I've had real bad flu's before it's the mental stuff that pulls me back.. it'd give me so much pleasure to go back up to that a****** of a doctor next friday clean.. as for the addiction counsellor she's just full of crap.. she obviously can't make any decisions at all - the doc is the guy with all the power and my god does he trip with it... so far any plan she has come up with for me he has just knocked back completely.. he even had the cheek to say to Cian that maybe we could buy meth on the street and I could make a try of it with that.. if only it was that easy... it'd be easier to buy a nuclear warhead on the streets here than methadone..
well there you go guys that's the disaster that's my life... just when I thought things were beginning to work out I get a right big knock back..
Arrie...what can i say youve been thru the mill&back this morning.......how can the f***ing Doc.say this i.e getting on a programme....go against yer future when this IS yer future....i dunno.Just sumthin else at the clinic i go to the Doc is gay and i think he has a soft spot for me ....well ive been f***ing him about for ages but he stood by me and im more or less clean now bar one or two lapses....strange people.Is there any way ya could get someone let you use their addy....my clinic is the City Clinic on Amiens st.....its a good one waiting list of bout 6/8wks and theyll throw enuff methedone at ya to keep you sound and takehomes if yer a good girl.Also try the one joined next to St.James Hosp.....they have a shorter waiting list.Any info you give that place yer dealing with is sctrictly confidential......when they transffered all our addicts from paper files to comp.one 2yrs ago they had to make us sign a deal that under no circumstances would any of this info leave the clinic.....so i think said d*** of a Doc.is talking outta his arse.
Sorry for the rant ....sorry i forgot buy meth off the streets!!!!!!!!!!yeah sound Doc help me break the law while yer at it.....just a hint theres usually plenty of methdone in Ballyfermot if ya wann risk it coz as ya know its red hot out there.
Sorry for the rant ....sorry i forgot buy meth off the streets!!!!!!!!!!yeah sound Doc help me break the law while yer at it.....just a hint theres usually plenty of methdone in Ballyfermot if ya wann risk it coz as ya know its red hot out there.
Arenal, can you come to the UK? There's a private clinic in London who prescribe Subbies. It's around 250 to get started and then the price of your meds for a month. Is this an option? www.staplefordcentre.co.uk
Linz x
P.S. GP's can prescribe Subutex, I have 2 mates on them through their GP's, most won't though because of the cost involved and I think they might need some sort of licence or something. Also, they don't know enough about them.
Please don't give up, I'm so angry for you. I had all the knocks in the world, every door slammed in my face and waited 9 months for treatment twice. Let it make you all the more determined to do this so you can shove it right up that a*sehole! Sorry but I'm really angry. They just don't get it that by the time we ask for help, we are desperate and need it now!
Keep strong, we'll all help as much as we can x
Linz x
P.S. GP's can prescribe Subutex, I have 2 mates on them through their GP's, most won't though because of the cost involved and I think they might need some sort of licence or something. Also, they don't know enough about them.
Please don't give up, I'm so angry for you. I had all the knocks in the world, every door slammed in my face and waited 9 months for treatment twice. Let it make you all the more determined to do this so you can shove it right up that a*sehole! Sorry but I'm really angry. They just don't get it that by the time we ask for help, we are desperate and need it now!
Keep strong, we'll all help as much as we can x
I don't know it sure sounds like a pain in the butt. I've never heard of being in the methadone clinic being used against you because you USE to work somewhere. I was on methadone It never caused a job issue i don't think methadne list is public knowledge. I'm in the USA i don't think HERE the clinic can tell the public or a job who gets treatment. Sounds like you don't want the m-done anyway subs are a better way to go. From what i know a general doctor can NOT write scripts for subs. It sucks your having a hard time getting treatment. I had a hard time getting into a clinic because of WAITING LIST I had to go out of state to get in a clinic that would see me right away. The clinic 12mins from my house had a 4 month waiting list so i drove over a hour away to another clinic. Keep looking i'll keep my fingers crossed something comes up to help you out.
Arrie ran out of text space......dunno bout the subs....sorry gotta go nippers playing up....oh no shes not!gone out on her bike lil monkey.Anyhow the subs as i said before i think they are being used on a trial basis by a few Docs in the Dublin area....who and where i think would be very hard to track down.Yer only good bet is a Doc.that may prescribe DF118S an opiate used for pain relief but also for a turkey......they used to be easy to come by yrs.ago not so much anymore.Cant say much to help keep at it Arrie as Eck said youve got balls in his eloqunt(sp)way....yer a fighter although ya might think the world and its ma are against you now.....you can do this.Take care Ms..........Davey
thanks davey,can always depend on u;;i think its totally wrong what they have done,u should be on shared care,whats to stop him when he stops gettin it supervised to share it with u,arrie i dont know if i should do this or if u may need a bit supervision but i could ask on the streets here,as i say dont know if it,s right thing 2 do.i actually disposed of much more than enough for a detox coz i thought i wouldnt be in this s***ty position,i also know all the doses for a detox right to the end;;Dr E;;only a suggestion and i will probably get pelters for it.be back on the board in a bit as my wee boy has a hole in his trainers so its a choice between them and a bag;;;away to score c ye;;;JOKE PEOPLE,eck
Hey Eck.. yeah, that would be great... would be grateful of any help at all right now to be honest... it's like Linz said, do they not realise that when we come looking for help it's because all other avenues have failed and it's immediate help that we need... but then Cian's lucky he's going to be looked after, just not me...
I usually write a bit more, I'm kind of stuck for words at the moment coz of what's happened, finding it hard to accept their attitude....
I usually write a bit more, I'm kind of stuck for words at the moment coz of what's happened, finding it hard to accept their attitude....
no f***in wonder,i know people get them here to detox,dont know all the ins and outs about their detox being supervised,its the nhs lottery,some health services do it,cross the border and that health board 1mile away dont.
Man that ones hard to swallow--i hope it does not turn you away from tryingto get clean--as it would many--man you give someone control over other human beings existance--and look what happens--i dont know what to say except da*n
My advice is to do a catapres and valium detox.
that doctor is a total prick! what's it got to do with him where you worked?!! it's upto you if you want to get a script and have that "affect" your job or whatever the hell he's going on about. as far as i'm aware, you have a right to be treated if you're testing positive for heroin once you've gone through the usual procedures of pee tests, waiting lists etc... i've never heard of someone being refused and certainly not for such a ridiculously irrelevant reason!! is there someone above him you can go to or refer your case to? i may be wrong re your right to treatment but i'm sure that's the case.
one thing i do know is that there is no way he is meant to recommend buying anything from the streets!!!! stupid stupid man - i really feel for you having to deal with such an obviously stupid clueless moron. that's really really annoyed me reading that.
fight for it because his behaviour cannot be right or allowed.
i read your other post re work/ scoring - it's a vicious circle isn't it? i work full time. i'm on meth now which i absolutely had to sort out when i started full time. before full time, i had a great work placement with a tv station in the press dept - i was asked to leave after 1 month b/c of my behaviour. basically, i didn't have a script so (i actually cannot believe that i did things like this and didn't think i would be told to get lost!!!!) i'd do things like to lunch and either come back late or not at all depending how much waiting was involved or if i was feeling ill or getting the afternoon nods as the gear started coming out of my system (before i am in a proper cluck, i find i can't keep awake!!) so i'd have to go to a loo cubicle and would wake up 20 mins later. god i cringe about my behaviour now. anyway, i'm going on about all that cos i totally understand the desperation i used to feel to have gear b/c, like you say, there's absolutely no way you can go to work on a full on cluck - well i certainly can't!
which brings us back to your doctor problem - he can't be the cause of all that stress re having gear for work and the consequences if you don't.
i really hope it works out for you - let us know how it goes. just remember, it is your right to receive treatment and you deserve it. don't let this vile little man block your attempts to stabilise your life and work on getting clean.
good luck, jude
one thing i do know is that there is no way he is meant to recommend buying anything from the streets!!!! stupid stupid man - i really feel for you having to deal with such an obviously stupid clueless moron. that's really really annoyed me reading that.
fight for it because his behaviour cannot be right or allowed.
i read your other post re work/ scoring - it's a vicious circle isn't it? i work full time. i'm on meth now which i absolutely had to sort out when i started full time. before full time, i had a great work placement with a tv station in the press dept - i was asked to leave after 1 month b/c of my behaviour. basically, i didn't have a script so (i actually cannot believe that i did things like this and didn't think i would be told to get lost!!!!) i'd do things like to lunch and either come back late or not at all depending how much waiting was involved or if i was feeling ill or getting the afternoon nods as the gear started coming out of my system (before i am in a proper cluck, i find i can't keep awake!!) so i'd have to go to a loo cubicle and would wake up 20 mins later. god i cringe about my behaviour now. anyway, i'm going on about all that cos i totally understand the desperation i used to feel to have gear b/c, like you say, there's absolutely no way you can go to work on a full on cluck - well i certainly can't!
which brings us back to your doctor problem - he can't be the cause of all that stress re having gear for work and the consequences if you don't.
i really hope it works out for you - let us know how it goes. just remember, it is your right to receive treatment and you deserve it. don't let this vile little man block your attempts to stabilise your life and work on getting clean.
good luck, jude
