just wondering how long everybody individually was hooked before one got clean . I myself have roughly 13 years and this time i think is the one...i hope l.o.l. i'm just curious as 2 whether it's roughly the same 4 most people. cheers herman. hi-ya everyone. how is evrybody ?
Hey Herman,
For me it was for a peroid of 15yrs on and off between breaks(jail and half @ssed attempts at rehab).
Darin
For me it was for a peroid of 15yrs on and off between breaks(jail and half @ssed attempts at rehab).
Darin
..Herman..
..How ya been..long time no see..hope all is well with ya.?..i was on the brown for 11 yrs..i stopped here and there for a month or two thru out my usage..the longest i managed to stay clean before this time was 3 months..i,ve been clean now for almost 7 months..i feel that this time is gonna be the time..i strongly feel that im not gonna go back to using brown..i still get cravings here and there..but not as bad as when i first stopped..but i,ve got a good feeling about this time..i think if i turn back to heroin..i will never get back off it..i will end up losing everything im fighting for..its gonna be a life long fight to stay off it..but i feel like im winning the battle and hopefully i will end up winning the war against using it again..good to see ya back..Robbie
..How ya been..long time no see..hope all is well with ya.?..i was on the brown for 11 yrs..i stopped here and there for a month or two thru out my usage..the longest i managed to stay clean before this time was 3 months..i,ve been clean now for almost 7 months..i feel that this time is gonna be the time..i strongly feel that im not gonna go back to using brown..i still get cravings here and there..but not as bad as when i first stopped..but i,ve got a good feeling about this time..i think if i turn back to heroin..i will never get back off it..i will end up losing everything im fighting for..its gonna be a life long fight to stay off it..but i feel like im winning the battle and hopefully i will end up winning the war against using it again..good to see ya back..Robbie
Hey Herman,
Good to see you back around. Gotta keep trying and it'll stick. Best of luck to you.
Beck
Good to see you back around. Gotta keep trying and it'll stick. Best of luck to you.
Beck
hi there. i think out of the xxxxxx times i've tried this is the best i've felt mentally. the longest was 3 1/2 months but although this time is shorter i just feel better. i've been offline 4 a while but i'v got a new setup , new house , new job [ same girlfriend l.o.l.] and am riding again. I think it tends 2 B 10-15 years with most of the cases i've known or heard of. Bloody long time.....Wot a waste!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heroin/Mdone??
Honestly- and this hurts to say.>>
Since 1983 on and off (mostly on)- thats 23 years- So when I speak of coming off ,it truely is frightning. I truely dont know any other way & that is the sad reality- I have to learn how to live without opiates. Ive tried many,many times & have gotten off a few times- - its staying off that becomes the issue.
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The lastest attempt (and thats a good thing , that I always keep trying!) ended at 25 mils of mdone before I went back up- only to 40 though. I was on 80. I planned to get on subs and then take it from there,but I think the fear of the unknown just freaked me out so I stopped the taper and put things on hold.
I kind of consider this lastest attempt as 1/2 successfull though because I cut my mdone dose in 1/2 after many years.
The best advise I could give to anyone on this stuff - is to never ,ever,let it get this far. Never get comfortable. -Use it to get your life together(cause heroin takes about all of that!)- then move on. The time goes quick,before you even realize it ,years go by & your still at the clinic.
I dont know what the average period of time someone is on for,but I do know that there should be a limit- a period of time where you have to make a move to get off- assisted by every goddamn resource the clinic offers.
peace & respect
jack
Honestly- and this hurts to say.>>
Since 1983 on and off (mostly on)- thats 23 years- So when I speak of coming off ,it truely is frightning. I truely dont know any other way & that is the sad reality- I have to learn how to live without opiates. Ive tried many,many times & have gotten off a few times- - its staying off that becomes the issue.
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The lastest attempt (and thats a good thing , that I always keep trying!) ended at 25 mils of mdone before I went back up- only to 40 though. I was on 80. I planned to get on subs and then take it from there,but I think the fear of the unknown just freaked me out so I stopped the taper and put things on hold.
I kind of consider this lastest attempt as 1/2 successfull though because I cut my mdone dose in 1/2 after many years.
The best advise I could give to anyone on this stuff - is to never ,ever,let it get this far. Never get comfortable. -Use it to get your life together(cause heroin takes about all of that!)- then move on. The time goes quick,before you even realize it ,years go by & your still at the clinic.
I dont know what the average period of time someone is on for,but I do know that there should be a limit- a period of time where you have to make a move to get off- assisted by every goddamn resource the clinic offers.
peace & respect
jack
that's a bloody long time but respect 2 u for not giving up , giving up.the longer ur on it as u know the harder it is 2 sstop but it's possible. i myself have sometimes thoght " wot's the point" but then on a nice sunny day , , loved one...and that reminds me why i , sorry , we have to keep on tryin
hows yerself Herman,how long??on & off for 12yrs.longest break was 10mnths,when my daughter was born,with little breaks for a month every yr.even when i was in prison[9mnth]i couldnt give it up,but theres loads in the nick so its probobly the worst place to try a rattle,me&my cellmate would get a score bag&smoke it over a very intense game of chess ,coz the winner would get to smoke the tooter,we used to be like the grandmasters in the 70s.Jack said something that has really hit home with me,coz ive been on m.done for 6yr have been off smack&benzos for nearly 7wk.i do think that this is me done with smack etc,forever,iv too much to lose,a sweet 7yr old daughter for 1.back to Jacks words,because i know in my heart of hearts its gonna be real tough to stop taking m.done[70ml].so how long is a good question for me....thanks ..davey
good luck davey . you have a good 7 yr old reason 2 stay away.hope it woks out.
I started using in '93 and started trying to get clean in 2003. So, about 10 years. But I was drinking and using coke before I started needle dope. And, I've been on methadone ever since I got off the junk. I went through 6 in-patient programs before I went to a clinic. It was a last resort and I think it should be. A person should try every means at thier disposal before they resort to methadone. I know anyone that's been on methadone more than a year agrees with me. I truly believe that for some addicts, methadone is an only choice. For some people, after using so long,it's impossible to be completely drug-free because your brain chemistry has changed so dramatically. For these people, methadone is the lesser of two evils. I'd like to think I'd stay clean if I left the clinic but I find it hard to stay clean, even on methadone!!! Peace, Shirley
hi shirley, if the rehab clinics you've been to are anything like the one i went to then they're horrid. never again. i find that most people i know use they're meth as a back up if they can't get any gear. totally wrong procedure i know, but that's sometimes the nature of the beast.i myself am using subutex. for the umptienth time. cheers for ur comment, hugs,herman
Hey! howzzit goin herman,
First of all i'd like to start by saying that i was the last person i'd ever imagine to be addicted to smack! It was about seven years that i battled with that damn monkey and was 19 when i first made the transition from doing party drugs like speed and e's with a constant vice to pot since i was thirteen. But heroin got me in just a week and it took seven of my most important years,many close friends, some dead,four terms of imprisonment, a lost fiance to prostitution, financial ruin, and not to mention the managery of mental and emotional scarring that finally i was fed up. Although i'd tried many times to detox and find a way to stay clean, it never seemed to last.. Then came the bupe!! I've been clean for nearly three years now, and there is no way that i'll return to the lost world..Yes!! i do still have a vice with the buep... but i'll take that any day over the substitute...
First of all i'd like to start by saying that i was the last person i'd ever imagine to be addicted to smack! It was about seven years that i battled with that damn monkey and was 19 when i first made the transition from doing party drugs like speed and e's with a constant vice to pot since i was thirteen. But heroin got me in just a week and it took seven of my most important years,many close friends, some dead,four terms of imprisonment, a lost fiance to prostitution, financial ruin, and not to mention the managery of mental and emotional scarring that finally i was fed up. Although i'd tried many times to detox and find a way to stay clean, it never seemed to last.. Then came the bupe!! I've been clean for nearly three years now, and there is no way that i'll return to the lost world..Yes!! i do still have a vice with the buep... but i'll take that any day over the substitute...
really good 2 hear ur doin well on ur subs.. yor story sounds soooooo similar 2 mine and no doubt millions of others. party drugs then harder drugs.. same ole, same ole.. i aspire 2 do as well as urself sometime. i myself am still stryggling with the monthly amounts . but i will succeed. nice 2 hear fro9m u and take care, herms,
I brought up topic again because as I just had my 50th b-day a few weeks ago,I looked around to see who was still around(the streets the clinic) since I first started making my apperances around the clinic years ago.
Sadly ,I can fire off name after name, of people who are no longer worried about the average period of addiction.
Between the aids (which pretty much did all its damage already),and prison which houses many others, from my beginning I think the average period of addiction is simply from beginning to end
Some of us get clean and never use again,but as far as the addiction it doesnt go away until the end. Hopefully most of us live with it,and keep it dormant and go on living rewarding ,productive lives ,both mentally and spirtually. Financially is just a bonus.
Just a rew random thoughts-
Even though things could be better ,Im still very grateful in the sceme of things
peace,
jack
Sadly ,I can fire off name after name, of people who are no longer worried about the average period of addiction.
Between the aids (which pretty much did all its damage already),and prison which houses many others, from my beginning I think the average period of addiction is simply from beginning to end
Some of us get clean and never use again,but as far as the addiction it doesnt go away until the end. Hopefully most of us live with it,and keep it dormant and go on living rewarding ,productive lives ,both mentally and spirtually. Financially is just a bonus.
Just a rew random thoughts-
Even though things could be better ,Im still very grateful in the sceme of things
peace,
jack
that certainly rings a bell , although here in england we ddidn't really have an aids outbreak. it's gotten more but not a really..big..problem like over the sea.hope youi keep up the good work .hermster.
