Yes, thats right!
I was rollerblading with Kearra well, actually teaching her how. She recently got some roller blades, all the kids in the neighborhood did and they go in cycles from bike riding to riding the razor to now rollerblading. My husband was in Canada recently and I asked him to bring mine he did.
I am not a novice when it comes to athletics, I do everything at least once and the good things well several times if not more. This includes jumping out of airplanes at 15,000 feet. I ski black diamond runs and will water ski on the ocean. I have never been seriously hurt except for a few bumps and bruises.
My point....I am screwed, I have been successfully tapering off suboxone and the end was so close I could almost touch it.
The pain of a broken bone is so intense that if you have never had one you really can't describe it.
At the hospital I told them I was on suboxone and a recovering addict, they were really busy and didn't seem to care. The guy at triage heard me because he asked me how to spell suboxone. After x rays and a confirmed compound break many many tears ( I am really a baby) I was with my family in this little room with two other groups of sick/injured people, the nurse comes in with a syringe and he announces that its broken and that he has demerol and plunges the syringe into my leg to the horror of everyone in the room. I screamed and yelped because he was so vicious it burned and bled.
After the shock of that a few seconds later I was horrified because I didn't know what was going to happen to me! Well nothing happened and the Demerol did help the pain but now my leg burned and I was scared and felt sick to my stomach.
As it turned out the guy that set my splint was someone I knew, from the program he was so loving and tender in his care of me. He knows that I am an addict and we spoke about the 4 oxcycodone and the script for 15 pills to fill.
He said my husband should hold them which opens up a whole other can of worms because those of you that don't know, it was my husband that basically supplied me with pills all of those years. There was no way I was going there. I thought that I wouldn't need them and would get by on Advil or extra strength Tylenol.
I barely slept but did dose in an out and finally at 5:30 this morning I woke and could hardly breath the pain was so bad. I did take 3 Tylenol and waited in agony. I don't want to take the percocet because I don't think they will work anyway because of the sub. I broke down and took 2 a few hours ago and I am doing fine, the pain is so intense and will be for a few days.
Honestly I am so upset and confused right now. Those pills barely touch the pain, they do a little but no that much. They stop the intense throbbing. I have not taken any sub this morning and I won't know because of the pain pills.
Ok, I am done for now. I just wanted to share this. I have left a message on my doctors cell phone. I am so upset right now. But I am not going to let this interfere with my recovery or my wish to be off suboxone. I am just scared.
It never occurred to me what or how I would handle a situation that would arise when I legitimately need pain relief.
I am screwed for today, I can't get around much. I am hobbling around on crutches and will go in a couple of days to orthopedics to get a real cast.
Feeling sorry for myself right now but am hoping things will be clearer when this ^%$&*$# pain subsides! I have been crying a lot! I have no tolerance for real pain. My heart goes out to those of you that live with pain on a daily basis. God bless you!
I will check in later. I need to sleep. Any advice or support would be welcomed!
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Wow KeeKee-Man,I'm sorry.I've never asked you this but do you have a sponsor in the program?If you do ,I would get in touch with them pronto.
Here is my big worry;
It's not that this situation can't work but you both need to be accountable.If you already have some opiates running in your system,the brain can start doing some tricky things.
Stay plugged in and when you start having the insane thoughts,you better talk about it.
I'm sorry this happened.
Here is my big worry;
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It's not that this situation can't work but you both need to be accountable.If you already have some opiates running in your system,the brain can start doing some tricky things.
Stay plugged in and when you start having the insane thoughts,you better talk about it.
I'm sorry this happened.
Hi KeeKee...
I'm so sorry this happened but you can turn it around and look at it as a learning lesson in your recovery...I'm with Tim, call your sponsor or another one of your friends in the program...tell them what's going on and what actions you have taken...Relax and take care of yourself, let your body start to mend and remember to breathe....
I've never had a compound fracture but my daughter did at 8 years old...basically her upper arm was a compound/dislocation from the elbow and she required over 2 hours of surgery and pins...she was heavily medicated for 12hrs (morphine) and then was prescribed vicoden but after 3 days, she was on advil and didn't have hardly any pain...The trauma from the break should subside real soon and then you know the drill....
Stay accountable, talk, share and pray...God will get you through this, I believe that....Most of all, take it real easy and don't push yourself to heal....
You are in my prayers....
(((hugs)))
Stacey
I'm so sorry this happened but you can turn it around and look at it as a learning lesson in your recovery...I'm with Tim, call your sponsor or another one of your friends in the program...tell them what's going on and what actions you have taken...Relax and take care of yourself, let your body start to mend and remember to breathe....
I've never had a compound fracture but my daughter did at 8 years old...basically her upper arm was a compound/dislocation from the elbow and she required over 2 hours of surgery and pins...she was heavily medicated for 12hrs (morphine) and then was prescribed vicoden but after 3 days, she was on advil and didn't have hardly any pain...The trauma from the break should subside real soon and then you know the drill....
Stay accountable, talk, share and pray...God will get you through this, I believe that....Most of all, take it real easy and don't push yourself to heal....
You are in my prayers....
(((hugs)))
Stacey
Kerri,
I'm so sorry. I've never broken a bone before -- I can't imagine how much that hurts. There are so many tiny bones in the foot. Did the doctor say how long it will take to heal?
You know the drill. Can you find someone other than your husband to hold the pills? A neighbor or friend who will take them out of your house and bring them to you on a schedule? I thought sub was an opiate antagonist. How long before it flushes out of your body? Maybe you will be in less pain when it does and the painkillers do what they are intended to do. (Has your sub doctor called back yet?)
You're not screwed. If you don't have control of your pills, if you keep yourself accountable to your sponsor, you don't lose clean time. You're such a smart woman, I know you'll learn something from this rotten lesson Life has handed you and will come through it with a stronger recovery than ever.
Hang in there. You have my email address and if I can be of any assistance, please don't hesitate to use it.
Love,
Gina
I'm so sorry. I've never broken a bone before -- I can't imagine how much that hurts. There are so many tiny bones in the foot. Did the doctor say how long it will take to heal?
You know the drill. Can you find someone other than your husband to hold the pills? A neighbor or friend who will take them out of your house and bring them to you on a schedule? I thought sub was an opiate antagonist. How long before it flushes out of your body? Maybe you will be in less pain when it does and the painkillers do what they are intended to do. (Has your sub doctor called back yet?)
You're not screwed. If you don't have control of your pills, if you keep yourself accountable to your sponsor, you don't lose clean time. You're such a smart woman, I know you'll learn something from this rotten lesson Life has handed you and will come through it with a stronger recovery than ever.
Hang in there. You have my email address and if I can be of any assistance, please don't hesitate to use it.
Love,
Gina
Kee Kee, so sorry to hear about your owie! Keep it elevated, epsom salt soaks...you know the drill. i agree, call your sponsor or talk to someone from your group.
Kkeekee!
I'm so sorry this happened to you and especially at this time when you were almost weaned off. Ah yes, the pain of a broken bone cannnot be described, I, however, know it well. Even after bone grafts and 12 operations my leg is still broken. They have it kind of screwed together but I recently learned 2 of the screws were broken. But enough about me. I'm not very familiar with sub so I'm kinda confused. Isn't sub a narcotic? If you took, for example, vicodin - it wouldn't work? But would the sub help with the pain? I feel for ya. Yeah, chronic pain + addiction to opiates is a crazy position to be in. The timing of this sucks, right? Hang in there, hang in there, you've been so motivated and determined. This is just a little blip on the screen. Props to you, trying to use only tylenol or advil. My heart goes out to you. Also, the fact that you're not falling back on this as an excuse to pills is admirable. It shows how committed you are. Hang in there
I'm so sorry this happened to you and especially at this time when you were almost weaned off. Ah yes, the pain of a broken bone cannnot be described, I, however, know it well. Even after bone grafts and 12 operations my leg is still broken. They have it kind of screwed together but I recently learned 2 of the screws were broken. But enough about me. I'm not very familiar with sub so I'm kinda confused. Isn't sub a narcotic? If you took, for example, vicodin - it wouldn't work? But would the sub help with the pain? I feel for ya. Yeah, chronic pain + addiction to opiates is a crazy position to be in. The timing of this sucks, right? Hang in there, hang in there, you've been so motivated and determined. This is just a little blip on the screen. Props to you, trying to use only tylenol or advil. My heart goes out to you. Also, the fact that you're not falling back on this as an excuse to pills is admirable. It shows how committed you are. Hang in there
Kerri, Don't let this get you down. Do what you need to do to get better and get right back in the saddle again. I have faith in you that you will make the right choices. You have come to far to let this setback stand in your way. Is hubby home to help with Kearra? Hope you are feeling better soon. Shantel
Dear Kee kee Yes I have broken many bones. Sober-ripped cartilage in my ribcage and had multiple fractures.
I went 8 months and got off the sub and was totally free of opiates and 3 days later on a morphine pump near death.MRSA infection 15lb abcess they cut me once closed me had to bring a specialist in reopened it almost lost my hip replacement. its all messed up from that operation but I fought back and you can to. Thrown out after 8days of morphine with scripts.
Yea I have been where you are. Kee Kee just slow down---keep it simple and deal with the pain. If you need to take pain meds do it if it helps. You do not need to suffer.
You will be back on the sub before you know it and you will wean again. I did it you can do it.
Only you know how bad your pain is. I used to think opiates helped my pain. Honestly I don't know anything anymore. What worked what did not.
I only know you should not suffer. Do you have a sponsor? I forget how involved you are in the program but it's there for you. USE IT
God this sucks but before you know it? Hey kee kee I watched my dad have his insides ripped out and he basically would not take pain meds--He had his knee replaced --only a few days ??nothing.
So you know were all different.
Keep us posted
Jeff
P.S Have you spoke with your Sub Doctor? I had to go 4 days before seeing mine as well bad luck.
I went 8 months and got off the sub and was totally free of opiates and 3 days later on a morphine pump near death.MRSA infection 15lb abcess they cut me once closed me had to bring a specialist in reopened it almost lost my hip replacement. its all messed up from that operation but I fought back and you can to. Thrown out after 8days of morphine with scripts.
Yea I have been where you are. Kee Kee just slow down---keep it simple and deal with the pain. If you need to take pain meds do it if it helps. You do not need to suffer.
You will be back on the sub before you know it and you will wean again. I did it you can do it.
Only you know how bad your pain is. I used to think opiates helped my pain. Honestly I don't know anything anymore. What worked what did not.
I only know you should not suffer. Do you have a sponsor? I forget how involved you are in the program but it's there for you. USE IT
God this sucks but before you know it? Hey kee kee I watched my dad have his insides ripped out and he basically would not take pain meds--He had his knee replaced --only a few days ??nothing.
So you know were all different.
Keep us posted
Jeff
P.S Have you spoke with your Sub Doctor? I had to go 4 days before seeing mine as well bad luck.
This may be a gift Kerry. Stay off the sub as long as you're on the pills and when you are done with them, go back on the lowest possible dose of sub. Make that your starting point to taper. As powerful as sub is, you may not need more then 2 or 4 mgs. Do you see where I'm going with this? You may have just helped yourself to a shorter taper! I am so sorry for your pain honey, but true pain deserves pain meds. Whether it's advil or percocet, that's up to you and what you can handle. Just don't let it get ahead of you, that's when it gets intense. No need to be a hero right now. Please, please take it easy and be kind to yourself. I wish I could help more....Lisa
LOL guess were all doctors now. No Lisa the right thing to do is for an addiction specialist to be involved in a start dose of 2mg 4 times a day to start. How she weans is up to her body and doctor.
But hey What do I know?
Were all different but people who fail on sub are the ones who RUSH off of it.
I am no big fan of any drug but there is a right way I BELIEVE to use suboxone.
And if I was Kee Kee Im would make sure she has her DOCTOR advising her. I do not know her story but I know Mine. Lisa you never took Sub You never spent 100hrs with 30-40 sub patients seeing them hearing them daily. Nor did you ever go to a suboxone specialist which my doctor was. I got lucky.
Kee Kee get in touch with your sub doctor. My second time on sub was much easier than the first after getting over the anger of Just getting off the sub and BOOM --my MRSA--LMAO man was I pissed. My first Sub doctor talked me through this part of my recovery. She saved me twice.
What I am trying to say is DO NOT do this alone--Sponsor--Doctor friends family all your support have them in place
Jeff
p.S Kerry can you send me a ticket ? I will nurse you back to health??
But hey What do I know?
Were all different but people who fail on sub are the ones who RUSH off of it.
I am no big fan of any drug but there is a right way I BELIEVE to use suboxone.
And if I was Kee Kee Im would make sure she has her DOCTOR advising her. I do not know her story but I know Mine. Lisa you never took Sub You never spent 100hrs with 30-40 sub patients seeing them hearing them daily. Nor did you ever go to a suboxone specialist which my doctor was. I got lucky.
Kee Kee get in touch with your sub doctor. My second time on sub was much easier than the first after getting over the anger of Just getting off the sub and BOOM --my MRSA--LMAO man was I pissed. My first Sub doctor talked me through this part of my recovery. She saved me twice.
What I am trying to say is DO NOT do this alone--Sponsor--Doctor friends family all your support have them in place
Jeff
p.S Kerry can you send me a ticket ? I will nurse you back to health??
Of course I'm not a dr Jeff and of course I don't know as much about sub as you do, who does? Anyway, Kerry's a smart cookie, I don't need to tell her to check with her dr. I'm sure that's the first thing she'll do. It was just a suggestion. Have a nice evening....Lisa
You take things so seriously. You say your coming up on 3 yrs in this the program of NA?? Lighten up sweetie.
I just share my experience-Thats what I was taught to do. Thats right Lisa I am DR SUBOXONE--King of the Sub world. Thank God I am off it TODAY YEA
OY VEY--
Good night Dear-
I just share my experience-Thats what I was taught to do. Thats right Lisa I am DR SUBOXONE--King of the Sub world. Thank God I am off it TODAY YEA
OY VEY--
Good night Dear-
Doesn't sub help with pain? I read that somewhere. Can you get through the pain with just your normal (lower dose) of sub? If I were you, I would try that. It has to be painful and yep, you aren't going to sleep well for a while, thats for sure. I guess I can't offer you advice except to stay off it and baby yourself as much as possible.
Since you had doubts, and expressed them here, I would say listen to your own instinct and heed the advice you are giving yourself. You know what to do kiddo.
Since you had doubts, and expressed them here, I would say listen to your own instinct and heed the advice you are giving yourself. You know what to do kiddo.
Oh Jeff...you're the one that needs to lighten up sweetheart. Why is it every time you go after me, you have to bring up that I'm coming up on 3 years of clean time? I don't get it. I wasn't being a smart a**....truly.
Lisa, Don't even bother responding. Hey, American Idol is on any take on who is gonna get voted off? Shantel
Hey Shantell....it doesn't come on here until 8, it's only 6:20 now. I have my favorites, but am worried that one of them, Gina may not make it. Donna told me I could vote a million times if I wanted, so I did...lol Don't spoil it for me though...I want to watch it. Who do you think?
I'm sorry your thread went south Kerry....we'll get it back on track.
I'm sorry your thread went south Kerry....we'll get it back on track.
Lisa, Her thread didn't go south. I learned along time ago don't sweat the small stuff. I won't tell you would got voted off I will let you see it for yourself. You are gonna die. Shantel
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Huh?
I'm coming down with a cold, but I think I'll pull through.
I agree with Cowgirl. This could definitely be a blessing in getting you off the sub sooner. It seems very possible that taking the pills for a few days (as little a time as possible) and then picking up the sub on a smaller amount just may work. Will be interested to hear what the doctor advises.
Kee Kee:
I will include you in my prayers tonight. I am really sorry about this, and I have no real advice on the narcotic end of things. All I can say, is no matter what, I will listen! I really hope this pain leaves you very, very soon.
Hang tough sister.
Love,
Sarah
I will include you in my prayers tonight. I am really sorry about this, and I have no real advice on the narcotic end of things. All I can say, is no matter what, I will listen! I really hope this pain leaves you very, very soon.
Hang tough sister.
Love,
Sarah
