I just got back from my sub. dr and I asked him about tappering and w/d He says " I wouldn't even worry if I stopped you today" I am at 8mg's Opinions on this???? I have been around this board 2 years and on sub 2 times. My first tapper was from HELL. could it all be in our heads? This Dr. ran the carron foundation for years. the rehab oprah sends people to that costs $29,000 a month. WTF?
Can you say...QUACK...lol...I would tell him to take sub or any other opiate and ask him if w/d is in his head.
Not sure why he would say something so crazy. The science proves otherwise...it is how this stuff fills the receptors in our brains. It is a brain chemistry deal. Jump off at 8mgs Ang and you will answer your own questions.
I have been instructed to taper very slowly.
How are you doing anyway? How is that drinking thing going? Are you okay? Have you stopped drinking now? I sure hope so.
Not sure why he would say something so crazy. The science proves otherwise...it is how this stuff fills the receptors in our brains. It is a brain chemistry deal. Jump off at 8mgs Ang and you will answer your own questions.
I have been instructed to taper very slowly.
How are you doing anyway? How is that drinking thing going? Are you okay? Have you stopped drinking now? I sure hope so.
Have you ever checked out the heroin-detox recovery board? opiate-detoxrecovery.org i think. Anyway, they have tons of people who have been on sub short term and long term. Lots and lots of horror stories but also some positive. The latest positive post is by a guy who was on sub for 18 months and tapered to about .125mg a day. He is doing fine, hardly had any w/d. Other people that have jumped off 1mg and higher seem to suffer more. I have read one person jumping from 4mgs who did ok and another girl claimed she jumped at 6mg. But those are 2 people out of I dont know how many thousand. Remember the dr.s only take some 8 hr course to prescribe this stuff- its relatively a new medicine. Remember the tought time atlas had at jumping from 1mg? Ive skipped some days from 1mg and on the 3rd day I start to feel bad. I caved each time. When I say bad I mean burning skin like fire and anxiety. Anyway, I would not jump from 8mgs. If you want to experiment make sure you have some back up! good luck, fire
I can't believe how clicky this board has become since I joined 2 years ago. The majority of the topics are O/T no biggie but, I truely feel if when I came here from day 1 to now I would have NEVER had the help I got then now. I feel this has become nothing more than a chat board. Makes me very sad for people like I used to be. It's kinda like high school. WTF are you old members thinking? What, you made your friends and now your in your little circle and your done?
LOL Angela is this "doctor" still taking care of you as of today? I hope you find someone to slowly wean you off the suboxone. This doctor is a freakin moron for telling you that.
Angela I tried jumping from 4mg and it was awful. then i tried 2 mg and it also was awful.
Angela the key to getting off suboxone and getting the benefits of the drug Isa SLOW wean. Gives you time to rid yourself of the cravings and most important accumulate clean time.
Take care
Jeff
Angela I tried jumping from 4mg and it was awful. then i tried 2 mg and it also was awful.
Angela the key to getting off suboxone and getting the benefits of the drug Isa SLOW wean. Gives you time to rid yourself of the cravings and most important accumulate clean time.
Take care
Jeff
Hi Fire: How are you ?
Have a good night --Jeff
Have a good night --Jeff
Angela,
I think that your post is way out of line. I understand you may be angry but why are you taking it out on the good people here that have done nothing but take time to post to you.
I am not sure where this is coming from but I have to say I disagree. This place has been a miracle for the newbies that have arrived here...just ask a few.
Its easy when you are using and not working a program to point fingers. I guess I am just not understanding where your anger is coming from.
I hope you get to feeling better soon, I know that I personally have always responded to your posts. Maybe its just that you are not hearing what you want to hear but rather what you need to hear.
I mean you are on suboxone and you went to your Dr. I bet you were not honest with him/her about your current situation and your fears around drinking. Its a big no no to drink and take suboxone. Do you think your anger is maybe a little misplaced?
Whats really going on?
I think that your post is way out of line. I understand you may be angry but why are you taking it out on the good people here that have done nothing but take time to post to you.
I am not sure where this is coming from but I have to say I disagree. This place has been a miracle for the newbies that have arrived here...just ask a few.
Its easy when you are using and not working a program to point fingers. I guess I am just not understanding where your anger is coming from.
I hope you get to feeling better soon, I know that I personally have always responded to your posts. Maybe its just that you are not hearing what you want to hear but rather what you need to hear.
I mean you are on suboxone and you went to your Dr. I bet you were not honest with him/her about your current situation and your fears around drinking. Its a big no no to drink and take suboxone. Do you think your anger is maybe a little misplaced?
Whats really going on?
Ang..you go from asking a question about Sub and then in your next post, blast people? Not sure what you're talking about but from the sounds of it, you've had someone feeding you bs. The members here are the most caring group of people I've ever met and when someone asks for help, most jump in as much as they can. Not alot here know about Sub, it's not a Sub board after all, but those that do, tried to give you advice. Want to clear that up? Hope you're doing well.
Angela,
How are you doing??
Are you still drinking or did you quit last weekend??
Have you found some meetings near you yet??
I hope things are getting better .... I've been worried about you!!
I notice that this board seems to go up and down a bit .... I'm not here as often as I used to be, don't post a whole lot, but do try to read regularly.
Not sure what exactly you mean by the above post .... but I have seen cycles here over the last 2 + years I've been here ....
Anyway, please let me know about your detox / recovery.
Do you still have my e-mail addy??
I'd like to talk to you some more ....
Lisa, "attacking" is a pretty big word???? I didn't attack anyone. A little paroined maybe? Just simply stating an observation. Look how many people clicked on my topic and how many replied? My point being more people just shoot the sh*t on here rather then talk recovery. Period the end.
Jeff, yeah I am SHOCKED about what my dr. said. That and scared he will just say OK you good to go, see ya? I am really suprised because like I said he ran a prestigous rehab for a long time. I guess sub. wasn't around when he was there and he took the 8 hour sub class????
Swizzle, I am doing ok, thank you for asking. I don't have you e-mail address anymore.
Jeff, yeah I am SHOCKED about what my dr. said. That and scared he will just say OK you good to go, see ya? I am really suprised because like I said he ran a prestigous rehab for a long time. I guess sub. wasn't around when he was there and he took the 8 hour sub class????
Swizzle, I am doing ok, thank you for asking. I don't have you e-mail address anymore.
Angela...
How are you doing? Have you quit drinking?
I do believe there are a lot of people that just read & don't post...it's not personal nor about you because if you look at all the threads, there are always way more views than posts....
I usually talk mostly recovery on here as well as a lot of others...sometimes, though, when I used to share all the time, people didn't like hearing my recovery talk and so I think myself, along with others, are very careful and pick & choose what to share here....
That's why I so strongly advocate F2F meetings...
Have a blessed day,
Stacey
How are you doing? Have you quit drinking?
I do believe there are a lot of people that just read & don't post...it's not personal nor about you because if you look at all the threads, there are always way more views than posts....
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My point being more people just shoot the sh*t on here rather then talk recovery. |
That's why I so strongly advocate F2F meetings...
Have a blessed day,
Stacey
Stacy, thanks for the nice post. I would NEVER attack anyone on a board that helped me so much. I don't like people putting words in my mouth. I am doing well, thank you for asking I appreciate it very much. How about you? Is life treating you well?
Angela,
Yes, life is treating me good...and on the days that are challenging, I just pray and ask God to show me the lessons...LOL
My family is well, my job is great and I have so many friends today that I cannot ask for anything more...Life is good and I have a full day of baseball tomorrow with 12yr old boys and we just bought them a new bat that they've all been dying to have so I am excited for them....plus, it's Friday and the carnival is in town for the weekend so I'm looking forward to having an enjoying weekend...
Take care of yourself...Have a nice weekend,
Stacey
Yes, life is treating me good...and on the days that are challenging, I just pray and ask God to show me the lessons...LOL
My family is well, my job is great and I have so many friends today that I cannot ask for anything more...Life is good and I have a full day of baseball tomorrow with 12yr old boys and we just bought them a new bat that they've all been dying to have so I am excited for them....plus, it's Friday and the carnival is in town for the weekend so I'm looking forward to having an enjoying weekend...
Take care of yourself...Have a nice weekend,
Stacey
Stacy, that sounds so nice !!! I hope you have a great weekend, enjoy yourself hun!
Angela...I simply stated what I saw. You were getting really good advice and instead of responding to that, you were upset that people weren't responding in the way you thought they should. I asked you to clear it up and you did, so thank you.
Hi Angela...I've been hitting the recovery message boards for about 7 years now,this one for over 3.There is good and bad on all of them,but this one has been the best one I have found so far.
There will always be those that you will clash with and those that you have much in common with.I tend to talk with certain people more than others because I have gotten to know them over the years. There are some here that I have never posted with but I don't take it as being clicky.
There are times I don't post because others have said all that needs to be said on the subject.There are times I don't post because I sense too much negativity and I don't want to add to it.
Just find what helps you and leave the rest of it behind.You'll find some very nice and insightful people here.
I wish I could give you some advice about the Sub,but I've never been on it and anything I know about it has come from the people here.I hope you have a very successful withdrawal from it.
Kevin
There will always be those that you will clash with and those that you have much in common with.I tend to talk with certain people more than others because I have gotten to know them over the years. There are some here that I have never posted with but I don't take it as being clicky.
There are times I don't post because others have said all that needs to be said on the subject.There are times I don't post because I sense too much negativity and I don't want to add to it.
Just find what helps you and leave the rest of it behind.You'll find some very nice and insightful people here.
I wish I could give you some advice about the Sub,but I've never been on it and anything I know about it has come from the people here.I hope you have a very successful withdrawal from it.
Kevin