I was unpleasantly surprised to find myself in a really bad way about a week or so ago. Im not exactly sure of days or times right now because to be honest my thinking is a little scrambled.
I do know it had been 2 or 3 weeks or so ago I weaned myself off sub. as usual, nothing is simple. I got a staff infection, have been getting treated at ER & every single day I was feeling dope sick. Not the harshest part, but the terrible part where it is an effort to get out of bed to do anything, while at the same time being in complete discomfort in bed, not wanting to be there or anywhere. Either freezing or boiling. Throwing up, etc etc &blah blah.
I was thinking it was from the staff infection, and the Dr. was worried of that also. So they keep checking me out every couple days and filling me with antibiotics. I was as honest as necessary about my WD concerns, & the Dr said he doubted it was WD's & feared something worse.
My daughter told me too google chronic WD symptoms- and I guess it is a real thing. They prescribed me lortab for the pain (my wife controls it) and I noticed afterwards the sickness diminished significantly. Obviously, I cant play around with being my own Dr again - and I am pretty sure I found a way to get a hospital detox (amazingly in Florida) for little money.
Anyway, I'm not 100 percent sure what is what, but I am fairly certain it is WDs, not the infection spreading through me.
Like I said , the Dr. doubted it was WDs, but that would be a good thing compared to it being a staff infection working its way throughout my body & brain. How ironic is that.
Anyway, as far a chronic WD, 1 web site I looked at is http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/index.php
lATER
While I would of course go to a medical doctor to be treated for anything from a sprained ankle to cancer, most doctors know little to nothing about opiate addiction, and even less about treatment meds like suboxone or methadone. Of course he was right to make sure your issues were not related to staph infection, which can be very very serious indeed, but withdrawal from suboxone is likely to be as bad or worse as any other withdrawal, and it is likely to last significantly longer in the acute stage than withdrawal from short-acting opiates. There is nothing unusual in your continuing to experience suboxone withdrawal for several weeks.
Suboxone is an excellent medication, but it generally is only helpful for as long as the patient continues to take it. Taking suboxone in hopes that withdrawal will be easy or non-existent at the end is likely to lead to relapse. It doesn't help with that, not statistically.
Suboxone is an excellent medication, but it generally is only helpful for as long as the patient continues to take it. Taking suboxone in hopes that withdrawal will be easy or non-existent at the end is likely to lead to relapse. It doesn't help with that, not statistically.
They prescribed me lortab for the pain
You've got to be kidding!!!!
You've got to be kidding!!!!
Loratab? You're right back where you started buddy. Might as well as gone back on the sub. Just how long do you think it'll be before the Loratab stops working at the dose they gave you and you start looking for more? Come on Harry, no one's that strong. Wife holding them or not.
Just how fast did you come off of the sub? It's not a race and some people take a couple of years to taper down to dust and then off. Sure, you're not going to feel fantastic when you first jump off but if you do it slow and right, it shouldn't be too bad. Most people get in a hurry and jump off at a dose that's too high, even 1 mg can be too high. Did your sub doc help you with this? Does he know you're taking the loratab? Of course you feel better now, you've got opiates back in your system.
Glad to hear that the infection is being treated and not part of why you feel so bad....so what now?
Just how fast did you come off of the sub? It's not a race and some people take a couple of years to taper down to dust and then off. Sure, you're not going to feel fantastic when you first jump off but if you do it slow and right, it shouldn't be too bad. Most people get in a hurry and jump off at a dose that's too high, even 1 mg can be too high. Did your sub doc help you with this? Does he know you're taking the loratab? Of course you feel better now, you've got opiates back in your system.
Glad to hear that the infection is being treated and not part of why you feel so bad....so what now?
12 step, u crack me up--good observation. Cowgirl, u r also right & the advice on the first is true too. My surprise was this, I was ok, it was done. I mean I weaned down form 24 mg per day, (actually the firt month i was a bit higher) to 16 to 8 gradually, with no prob. I GOT REAL LOW, and finally it came to, unbelievably, money. They are about 8 dollars a piece. Yea, big deal.......but it is when I no longer had the money to see the shrink to prescribe them. I talked him into a script of 10 more without seeing them, and weaned , weaned weaned. I asked him for bup i/O suboxone, because they are generic, only like $3.00, I could have got more & weaned more. But that scares the $hit out of them- there is probaganda concerning bup vs sub, the biggest being that the naxoline makes it so u can't shoot sub. But u start looking at some of these boards and u can get step by step instructions on shooting sub.
The biggest fear at the time was the staff infection had possibly traveled thru my body, & that is waht was causing the sickness. tHERE was real pain also. WHat I shortly realized was that after doing a few tabs, I wans't high, but I wasn't way way down on E, which was going on & on. My desire was to find a way thru this. I'm sorry, I just can not make it thru months of wd & discomfort. When I found I could get into detox, my decision was to wait to after Christmass which would mean taking something till I got there. 2 days ago I recognized just how stupid it was, called them to get on a list, which is 5 to 7 days.
Right or wrong, I simply no longer have the strength, stamina, or desire, to be sick day after day, with no end in sight. But your guys points are valid and correct.
Don't blame the Dr., like I said, I was honest as I thought reasonably possible in the situation. I didnt get into my lifetime drug history, I mostly stressed the serious pain I was in for a year after MY MC accident, and the strong narcotics I was given. I then advised the Dr I wanted to get off, so I got on subox, & weaned my way off a few weeks ago. He said that was good. I aslo mentioned that I due have chronic parin (which I do-- sometimes in my shoulder- but I try not to take things for it. So, for him to prescribe me some tabs for the infection pain, was legit.
But then again, who the h knows my real motives, I dont half the time----i do know i have suddenly started doing stupid things.
I hope this detox works, cause i dont want high, i want un-sick
Good night & love u'all
The biggest fear at the time was the staff infection had possibly traveled thru my body, & that is waht was causing the sickness. tHERE was real pain also. WHat I shortly realized was that after doing a few tabs, I wans't high, but I wasn't way way down on E, which was going on & on. My desire was to find a way thru this. I'm sorry, I just can not make it thru months of wd & discomfort. When I found I could get into detox, my decision was to wait to after Christmass which would mean taking something till I got there. 2 days ago I recognized just how stupid it was, called them to get on a list, which is 5 to 7 days.
Right or wrong, I simply no longer have the strength, stamina, or desire, to be sick day after day, with no end in sight. But your guys points are valid and correct.
Don't blame the Dr., like I said, I was honest as I thought reasonably possible in the situation. I didnt get into my lifetime drug history, I mostly stressed the serious pain I was in for a year after MY MC accident, and the strong narcotics I was given. I then advised the Dr I wanted to get off, so I got on subox, & weaned my way off a few weeks ago. He said that was good. I aslo mentioned that I due have chronic parin (which I do-- sometimes in my shoulder- but I try not to take things for it. So, for him to prescribe me some tabs for the infection pain, was legit.
But then again, who the h knows my real motives, I dont half the time----i do know i have suddenly started doing stupid things.
I hope this detox works, cause i dont want high, i want un-sick
Good night & love u'all
