Today a very good friend of mine (who has had a rough few months) wrote the following in a "blinding flash of inspiration" as he called it. It hit home to me because I also once believed that love could be given unconditionally.
C.
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Why is it that when you are down
People will say or do unusual things
In order to lift you back up and help you to smile;
Then
As time passes
Those exact same people will say or do unusual things
In order to wipe that same smile off your face?
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Thanks for the smile..aint no one going to wipe it off my face.
CG
CG
interesting poem. i would see the 'friends' as confused people at best, emotionally immature sick people who i would learn to not associate with.
Hi Harry..how are you today?
Hi cowgirl, shootin straight?
Hey CG & BD
Hows things? Thanks for posting....... I'm just a bit unsure if your replies were positive or negative? I know there is some drama on the board at the moment, and I don't follow the drama at all but I got a feeling from your above posts that you might think this had something to do with it? I could be completely wrong (if I am, my apologies) but I just did not really know how to take your replies.
My friend who wrote this broke up with his wife about 6 months ago, when they first married she was his best friend and they both always said that if they ever got divorced they would be mature and stay friends etc. Well I guess she forgot about that conversation because she is now hell bent on revenge and using every angle she can to hurt him.
The one person he once loved and trusted more then anyone is now using that love and trust to break him.
The ones we love are often the ones who hurt us the most. I shared his writing cause it came from his heart and I could so easily relate. 2 years ago I was drug raped repeatedly by my boyfriend who I was in love with. The one person I thought could never do that did. It broke me. I spiralled back into heavy drug use and depression. When the people you think love you can hurt you so much, I think imagine what all the people who only "like" me could do, or worse the ones that don't even know me.
I hope this clarifies,,,,
C.
Hows things? Thanks for posting....... I'm just a bit unsure if your replies were positive or negative? I know there is some drama on the board at the moment, and I don't follow the drama at all but I got a feeling from your above posts that you might think this had something to do with it? I could be completely wrong (if I am, my apologies) but I just did not really know how to take your replies.
My friend who wrote this broke up with his wife about 6 months ago, when they first married she was his best friend and they both always said that if they ever got divorced they would be mature and stay friends etc. Well I guess she forgot about that conversation because she is now hell bent on revenge and using every angle she can to hurt him.
The one person he once loved and trusted more then anyone is now using that love and trust to break him.
The ones we love are often the ones who hurt us the most. I shared his writing cause it came from his heart and I could so easily relate. 2 years ago I was drug raped repeatedly by my boyfriend who I was in love with. The one person I thought could never do that did. It broke me. I spiralled back into heavy drug use and depression. When the people you think love you can hurt you so much, I think imagine what all the people who only "like" me could do, or worse the ones that don't even know me.
I hope this clarifies,,,,
C.
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White Lighter, thanks for the clarification. I dont usually get too involved with the other nonsense u r talking about- but i am glad you said that, because what you said points out how the harm of that nastiness grows and effects many things, like a cancer. And it causes a misunderstnding of that poem on my part to possibly be something else. But i am real glad u kindly pointed that out & also clarified the poem.
One of the things I have always enjoyed doing was analyzing and getting the meaning out of songs & poems.
I think this one makes a powerful emotional statement & from that perspective alone I liked it; at the same time I thought the author was misunderstanding friends & friendships. I didn't consider the possiblility of a broken relationship & a change in the status of the friendship.
Your explanation greatly improves the poem & its power. I am sorry for your friends loss & the pain he experienced to come out with this. It's a pretty good piece4.
I think (purely from a literary point & the opinion of an Ex-English teacher who never made it much past teaching for a while <less then a year in a childrens holding shelter & some substituting once in a while> -so take it for what its worth) that your friends good poem could be made better and clearer by somehow incorporating a line or two letting the readers clearly know that there has been a change in the status of the friends. The reason I say this is the first time I read it, I pictured someone being friends with several people,. If these people saw him down & out or whatever they would help him get back up. But then I saw these same people, with no essential situational change (something like a group or whatever that hung out with each other) for some reason trying to harm the person when he was back on his feet. Therefore, I sorta thought he was trying to get across the idea of: what kind of people are these & why do they do what they do.
From your explanation, I now understand it is an entrely different situation than I had interpreted.
Actually, just now I realized that that poem could be good either way. To me it has the heart of a good piece cause it gets you thinking (it did me anyhow)
One of the things I have always enjoyed doing was analyzing and getting the meaning out of songs & poems.
I think this one makes a powerful emotional statement & from that perspective alone I liked it; at the same time I thought the author was misunderstanding friends & friendships. I didn't consider the possiblility of a broken relationship & a change in the status of the friendship.
Your explanation greatly improves the poem & its power. I am sorry for your friends loss & the pain he experienced to come out with this. It's a pretty good piece4.
I think (purely from a literary point & the opinion of an Ex-English teacher who never made it much past teaching for a while <less then a year in a childrens holding shelter & some substituting once in a while> -so take it for what its worth) that your friends good poem could be made better and clearer by somehow incorporating a line or two letting the readers clearly know that there has been a change in the status of the friends. The reason I say this is the first time I read it, I pictured someone being friends with several people,. If these people saw him down & out or whatever they would help him get back up. But then I saw these same people, with no essential situational change (something like a group or whatever that hung out with each other) for some reason trying to harm the person when he was back on his feet. Therefore, I sorta thought he was trying to get across the idea of: what kind of people are these & why do they do what they do.
From your explanation, I now understand it is an entrely different situation than I had interpreted.
Actually, just now I realized that that poem could be good either way. To me it has the heart of a good piece cause it gets you thinking (it did me anyhow)
Thanks Dog, I can see now how it could have been misinterpreted, I should probably have explained it better. He likes to get people thinking, well that part definately worked aye! It was a question too so I guess we all look into our own situations to interpret.... anyway thanks for your thoughts BD, my friend will be pleased that someone took the time out to understand it.
Hugs
C
Hugs
C
Tell your friend he should keep writing. He seems to have a talent.
White lighter,
In my mind the reason for this is as follows.
Some people want to feel a sense of power. Power to lift down people up and power to put happy people down .
These people have a selfish motive . We as a society love to participate in this. We enjoy seeing the famous people binging brought down and we enjoy the "power" of forgiveness to the humble. We enjoy having the judgement power .
**As a friend of mine once said. In all things we do and say, "We need to check our motives"
** For instance, when we give advice to others. Is it to help them or to show them how smart we are. " What are our motives." We all need to check our motives from time to time.
** God knows our heart behind every word we say and everything we do.
Jake
In my mind the reason for this is as follows.
Some people want to feel a sense of power. Power to lift down people up and power to put happy people down .
These people have a selfish motive . We as a society love to participate in this. We enjoy seeing the famous people binging brought down and we enjoy the "power" of forgiveness to the humble. We enjoy having the judgement power .
**As a friend of mine once said. In all things we do and say, "We need to check our motives"
** For instance, when we give advice to others. Is it to help them or to show them how smart we are. " What are our motives." We all need to check our motives from time to time.
** God knows our heart behind every word we say and everything we do.
Jake
Charmed...it was positive. Sorry, I should have elabrated. Feelings are on edge around here and walking on egg shells has never been my style.
Brown..sure hope you're not going anywhere. Please email to stay in touch if you are.
Love to you both
Cowgirl
Brown..sure hope you're not going anywhere. Please email to stay in touch if you are.
Love to you both
Cowgirl
