Thanks Martin and Valarie and Zipper. Sometimes I don't think I would get through things if it weren't for understanding people like you!
I hope I can return it one day.
Izzy
Hey Izzy, you already did my love, long before I got around to helping you.
Don't you remember?
This is how it is Izzy, if we con't realise the good we do how can we ever feel good about ourselves?
You helped me when I was in despair about my ex long before I had the privilege to reach out to you. You're good people. Enjoy yourself. You contribute and make a difference. Check back a couple of months.
Now forgive me, but go to bed lol....you said you were tired....(I've had the kids since Thursday and I'm on a roll! lol)
Stay up all night if you want Izzy. It's your life and only you know what you want to do with it. Of course it will take a while to work out; you're too smart to settle for an easy answer....lol...
Sweet dreams...
Don't you remember?
This is how it is Izzy, if we con't realise the good we do how can we ever feel good about ourselves?
You helped me when I was in despair about my ex long before I had the privilege to reach out to you. You're good people. Enjoy yourself. You contribute and make a difference. Check back a couple of months.
Now forgive me, but go to bed lol....you said you were tired....(I've had the kids since Thursday and I'm on a roll! lol)
Stay up all night if you want Izzy. It's your life and only you know what you want to do with it. Of course it will take a while to work out; you're too smart to settle for an easy answer....lol...
Sweet dreams...
ZIPPER: Izzy, you said: "The whole cutting thing is ok, I'm on top of it." I just get really upset sometimes and the pain helps... "
Honey, you are not on top of it. If you were, you wouldn't be self-mutilating. I know exactly what you mean when you say pain helps...if you took a look at my legs, you'd know for certain that I have been there! Please don't let your head tell you that you are fine and on top of something when you aren't. That is the dis-ease...a co-morbid disease...alcoholism, self-mutilation, personality disorder. The good news: there is a solution for ALL that ails you. I am still in infancy of recovery as it pertains to alcohol but the cutting has been in remission for several years.
You asked the other day what co-dependency is....I have another example, now: not loving yourself, not taking care of yourself, not respecting your body....Honey, please get some help,
I am thinking of you and wishing I could ease some of the pain. I can't but God/HP can.
Hi Zipper, I thought I'd continue his over here.
I'm just trying to be on top of things. It's slow this therapy thing and for the most part I do succeed. Today has been the first time since November that I have cut myself. I know it's not 100% but it's a massive improvement on what I used to do.
I know I'm not 'cured' but I'm getting there, and always with your support and this forums support.
Thanks for everything.
Izzy
Honey, you are not on top of it. If you were, you wouldn't be self-mutilating. I know exactly what you mean when you say pain helps...if you took a look at my legs, you'd know for certain that I have been there! Please don't let your head tell you that you are fine and on top of something when you aren't. That is the dis-ease...a co-morbid disease...alcoholism, self-mutilation, personality disorder. The good news: there is a solution for ALL that ails you. I am still in infancy of recovery as it pertains to alcohol but the cutting has been in remission for several years.
You asked the other day what co-dependency is....I have another example, now: not loving yourself, not taking care of yourself, not respecting your body....Honey, please get some help,
I am thinking of you and wishing I could ease some of the pain. I can't but God/HP can.
Hi Zipper, I thought I'd continue his over here.
I'm just trying to be on top of things. It's slow this therapy thing and for the most part I do succeed. Today has been the first time since November that I have cut myself. I know it's not 100% but it's a massive improvement on what I used to do.
I know I'm not 'cured' but I'm getting there, and always with your support and this forums support.
Thanks for everything.
Izzy
Congratulations on the abstinence. That is great. Just take care of you and keep reminding yourself that you are worth loving yourself and taking care of YOU.
Hi Izzy. First of you did not hijack my thread and you DON'T have any reason to feel bad. I am glad that you guys got to talk about some things that might be of help for you. As zipper once told me.(when I thought I stole her thread) ,a thread is a post where we can all reply and continue on with the help and support we receive from one another. I wish I could do something to help you. I know you are hurting and I only know about the alcohol aspect of the disease so in that regards I can't give advice on you cutting yourself. I do know that people do it to find some release from the pain they feel.I just want you to know that I care about you and I hope someday you will find the peace and happiness you deserve. You see Izzy I have a daughter who is struggling with problems as well some similar to yours so I have some idea of what it is you are going through.You have good understanding support from Zipper and that is something to be thankful for. I may not be much help to you but I want you to know that I care about what happens to you and you have my support. Stay strong Izzy and try and stay positive even though I know at times it can be hard to do so . take care and be happy in knowing that you have friends here who love you.
Hey Martin, yeah I remember what I said to you about your ex.
Sometimes I get these great moments of clarity and I know exactly what to do and what to say, and other times I am at a total loss as to where I'm going in life. Like my therapist said I'm good at giving advice but when it comes to myself... I don't take my own advice!
At times I feel quite inferior to the people here who are so self assured and know themselves, I so want to be like that and sometimes I'm really clear and other times I'm in a total daze. Like right now...
I know what my personality disorder has done to me and I so want to put it right and I want it right now! But I know that's not what is going to happen... it has taken me three years of wanting to get better to get where I am now, which is realising my drinking is a symptom of my depression and self loathing, of my inability to handle intense emotions and of dealing with them as they arise. Tonight I dealt with it the wrong way and I stopped before I got too into it.
I read more and more about people here and the more I do the more I admire you guys and what you've been through, which is similar to me and it gives me hope. It's like getting a cyber hug from you all!!
I know I'll feel differently tomorrow, although my depression has been consistent throughout this week and last week. I think it might have come to a head tonight and I can turn a corner, have learned something new and can apply it to myself next time I get in a state.
So cheers!
Izzy
Sometimes I get these great moments of clarity and I know exactly what to do and what to say, and other times I am at a total loss as to where I'm going in life. Like my therapist said I'm good at giving advice but when it comes to myself... I don't take my own advice!
At times I feel quite inferior to the people here who are so self assured and know themselves, I so want to be like that and sometimes I'm really clear and other times I'm in a total daze. Like right now...
I know what my personality disorder has done to me and I so want to put it right and I want it right now! But I know that's not what is going to happen... it has taken me three years of wanting to get better to get where I am now, which is realising my drinking is a symptom of my depression and self loathing, of my inability to handle intense emotions and of dealing with them as they arise. Tonight I dealt with it the wrong way and I stopped before I got too into it.
I read more and more about people here and the more I do the more I admire you guys and what you've been through, which is similar to me and it gives me hope. It's like getting a cyber hug from you all!!
I know I'll feel differently tomorrow, although my depression has been consistent throughout this week and last week. I think it might have come to a head tonight and I can turn a corner, have learned something new and can apply it to myself next time I get in a state.
So cheers!
Izzy
Hi Pirate, you say that you think you may not be of much help to me but you are. Everyone here is regardless of whether they're offering support, advice or just a friendly word. It all helps me. I appreciate your concern for me, I am equally as concerned for everyone else here, but I know you guys are strong. Stronger than me at times!
It's all good, thank you!
Izzy
It's all good, thank you!
Izzy
""Tonight I dealt with it the wrong way and I stopped before I got too into it.""
In the middle of all you're going through? Sounds like you're doing pretty well to me Izzy.
Progress, not perfection
....don't compare your insides with anyone else's outsides....... I bet you'll enjoy Chris's YouTube contribution....speaks right to that point....
Martin
