I am just so disgusted right now, especially with anything legal.
As you all know, I have a judgement for over 50k in arreas in child support.
I have been getting support, about $500 a month. His new amount is $900 (that is based on his pay being $15/hour he really makes $30 and has brought in paystubs to prove this), and I have yet to see this amount.
Anyway, we went to court today and he got an attorney. This attorney actually wrote aletter stating the relationship ended because of an $18,000 account I had. He wanted $9,000 of my money to be credited to scumbags arrears. That isn't even logical or ethical. WTF?
At the bottom, his attn. said "blah blah will be happy to continue to emotionally, physically, and financially support his kids."
this is what gets me so angry. My son is in a live in residential program because of his dad's abondment. My 8 year old is angry; and lashing out all the time and I know it is because his dad has left her to raise another little girl.
Noone is outraged that one woman is raising these kids alone.
He showed up at the after school thing to pick the other little girl up after not even calling since Christmas and my daughter was crushed.
I don't get it. The last child support investigator wrote a nasty affadavit against me, because my attorney called them into court wanting to know what they were doing for me. You don't get to over $50k in arrears if you are doing your job. I guess my letter calling csea a joke didn't help, but wouldn't you be pissed??
I am just so angry and I haven't wanted to use in a long time. I just don't understand the human race.
I really wish I knew some thugs because Mr. Deadbeat would be a out a few legs right now.
Okay Kerri Breathe. I cannot imagine how ticked you must be right now.
My god, you are raising three kids on your own. I have two with help and that is hard enough. You have stood up to the plate and done the right thing, and you should get ALOT of credit for that.
Dont stress his attorney, I would guess he is not a very good one anyway, It is obvious who is doing everything for your children.
I will tell you this..........There will come a day where he will be forced to pay. My dad abandoned me and my two sisters, but back in 99 or 2000 received a settlement and could not receive a dime of it because of the child support lein.
Is he working under the table for cash? That is what my dad did to beat the system. But it did catch up with him. 3 kids for 18 yrs is alot. He didnt pay nearly what he owed but we had to settle, and was better than nothing.
Dont you stress this Sweetie, you have way to much on your plate. Your a good mother, and doing all you can. Anyone who dosent have rocks in there head can see this.
Dont let this take the fight out of you.
I will be emailing you this evening..........So much to say :)
Big Hugs.
Jodi
My god, you are raising three kids on your own. I have two with help and that is hard enough. You have stood up to the plate and done the right thing, and you should get ALOT of credit for that.
Dont stress his attorney, I would guess he is not a very good one anyway, It is obvious who is doing everything for your children.
I will tell you this..........There will come a day where he will be forced to pay. My dad abandoned me and my two sisters, but back in 99 or 2000 received a settlement and could not receive a dime of it because of the child support lein.
Is he working under the table for cash? That is what my dad did to beat the system. But it did catch up with him. 3 kids for 18 yrs is alot. He didnt pay nearly what he owed but we had to settle, and was better than nothing.
Dont you stress this Sweetie, you have way to much on your plate. Your a good mother, and doing all you can. Anyone who dosent have rocks in there head can see this.
Dont let this take the fight out of you.
I will be emailing you this evening..........So much to say :)
Big Hugs.
Jodi
Kerry, I am a thug, so I'll be right out.
Like I was NOT going to weigh in on this one.
First off, quit relying on him to pay you directly. You need An Order to Withhold, issued by the Judge in your case. It's a court order sent the the employer ordering to withhold CS from his check, so he never even see's it. If you don't have one in place, get one. They always grant them, especially when the person is in noncompliance or in arrears. If you have one and the employer is not following it, he is in contempt of court. You need to contact the States attorney. The shorted amount simply ads to his arrears, so keep track. Here is a good link for you.
CS Hawaii
And if Grandma had balls she would be Grandpa. His attorney can also say your husband is Jesus Christ and it wouldn't matter. As far as financial stuff, the ONLY thing that matters is what is in your divorce decree and resulting order/judment. NOW, if you had an $18000 account and owed him $9,000 and never paid, it still wouldn't matter to the arrearage amount as the court orders are seperate unto themselves. Example, you could force payment through a garnishment of his $50,000 and he can the the same to you on the $9,000. Now, for the sake of fairness, you could give him credit for the $9,000, wipe f from the books and establish a $41,000 arrearage and the starting point for the garnishment. Get it? The two things are unrelated.
Then you need to ask the court for a garnishment order. An "Order to Discover Assets" is issued, and once determined and garnishmnet is issued. This is SEPERATE from an order to Withold and in addition to.
And the judge will be happy to keep "blah blah" out of jail too.
Sad, but unrelated to his CS obligation.
Uh..no....email me off the board and let me know what the letter says
Using the legal system=REALLY SMART..using drugs=REALLY STUPID
Obviously, your lawyer needs to strap on a pair.
Watch the Black Donnely's tonight. My brother called and said it reminded him of all of us (I have 3 brothers and 2 sisters). I will weight in an let you know if it does.
Like I was NOT going to weigh in on this one.
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First off, quit relying on him to pay you directly. You need An Order to Withhold, issued by the Judge in your case. It's a court order sent the the employer ordering to withhold CS from his check, so he never even see's it. If you don't have one in place, get one. They always grant them, especially when the person is in noncompliance or in arrears. If you have one and the employer is not following it, he is in contempt of court. You need to contact the States attorney. The shorted amount simply ads to his arrears, so keep track. Here is a good link for you.
CS Hawaii
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| Anyway, we went to court today and he got an attorney. This attorney actually wrote aletter stating the relationship ended because of an $18,000 account I had. He wanted $9,000 of my money to be credited to scumbags arrears. That isn't even logical or ethical. WTF? |
And if Grandma had balls she would be Grandpa. His attorney can also say your husband is Jesus Christ and it wouldn't matter. As far as financial stuff, the ONLY thing that matters is what is in your divorce decree and resulting order/judment. NOW, if you had an $18000 account and owed him $9,000 and never paid, it still wouldn't matter to the arrearage amount as the court orders are seperate unto themselves. Example, you could force payment through a garnishment of his $50,000 and he can the the same to you on the $9,000. Now, for the sake of fairness, you could give him credit for the $9,000, wipe f from the books and establish a $41,000 arrearage and the starting point for the garnishment. Get it? The two things are unrelated.
Then you need to ask the court for a garnishment order. An "Order to Discover Assets" is issued, and once determined and garnishmnet is issued. This is SEPERATE from an order to Withold and in addition to.
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And the judge will be happy to keep "blah blah" out of jail too.
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| this is what gets me so angry. My son is in a live in residential program because of his dad's abondment. My 8 year old is angry; and lashing out all the time and I know it is because his dad has left her to raise another little girl. Noone is outraged that one woman is raising these kids alone. He showed up at the after school thing to pick the other little girl up after not even calling since Christmas and my daughter was crushed. |
Sad, but unrelated to his CS obligation.
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| I don't get it. The last child support investigator wrote a nasty affadavit against me, because my attorney called them into court wanting to know what they were doing for me. You don't get to over $50k in arrears if you are doing your job. I guess my letter calling csea a joke didn't help, but wouldn't you be pissed?? |
Uh..no....email me off the board and let me know what the letter says
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| I am just so angry and I haven't wanted to use in a long time. I just don't understand the human race. |
Using the legal system=REALLY SMART..using drugs=REALLY STUPID
Obviously, your lawyer needs to strap on a pair.
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| I really wish I knew some thugs because Mr. Deadbeat would be a out a few legs right now. |
Watch the Black Donnely's tonight. My brother called and said it reminded him of all of us (I have 3 brothers and 2 sisters). I will weight in an let you know if it does.
Is there a way you can find out if you are intitled to his tax return? In the state of Washington, support in arrears, gets first crack at the income tax return..even ahead of the IRS. If he has a good job, his income tax return might be substantial and you should have it. Why aren't they garnishing his wages?
Crap like this makes me mad. Dead beat dad's should be shot. Especially the ones that can pay.
Good luck.
Crap like this makes me mad. Dead beat dad's should be shot. Especially the ones that can pay.
Good luck.
She needs an order of garnishment first Lisa. And then there are limitations to it. The amount vary's by state, per state laws. As an example, in Illinois, it's 20% of disposable monthly income. She would get one shot at the return of 20% of his monthly pay. That is per garnishment action. Since a tax return is once a year, the amount would be pretty low. Say he makes $50,000 in a tax bracket of 30%, his disposable income is around $673.07 per week, which she can grab 20% of ($134.61). Or around $536 to complete the formula.
They can seize assets such as bank/checking accounts etc. Once that happens though, he will probably change banks and she has to get a new order. Also, he would probably turn around an get a check from the employer rather than direct deposit and cash the check wherever. Then a judgment of non-compliance would need to be issued.
It's kind of more complicated than that.
They can seize assets such as bank/checking accounts etc. Once that happens though, he will probably change banks and she has to get a new order. Also, he would probably turn around an get a check from the employer rather than direct deposit and cash the check wherever. Then a judgment of non-compliance would need to be issued.
It's kind of more complicated than that.
Kerry..man can I relate. I had maintenance enforcement on my ex. He still never paid but the bill kept adding up. Near the end he couldn't travel or get a license, register a car. If he filed taxes they would deduct what he owed and if it meant the entire amount then so be it.
Problem is he is a drunk and lived off his Dad for years. No car to drive, no where to travel and definitely no tax to report. I ended up cutting a deal with his dad for a fraction of what he owed only because I was sure he was going to die and then we would collect zero. He is still alive barely. I have forgiven him for all.
If you can get those orders that Danny talks about that would be the way to proceed. You will keep your dignity and not have to ask him for the money he owes. Let someone else wear that hat. Sucks I know.
Sounds like he will try to worm his way out of whatever you try to do. He is a true deadbeat in every sense. Just like mine was.
My kids are grown now as you know and still love there Dad, however they know whats what. No respect and he lost so very much. Stupid, they have no idea who they are really hurting and what they are giving up.
You are one tough cookie! You will come out on top one way or another!
Problem is he is a drunk and lived off his Dad for years. No car to drive, no where to travel and definitely no tax to report. I ended up cutting a deal with his dad for a fraction of what he owed only because I was sure he was going to die and then we would collect zero. He is still alive barely. I have forgiven him for all.
If you can get those orders that Danny talks about that would be the way to proceed. You will keep your dignity and not have to ask him for the money he owes. Let someone else wear that hat. Sucks I know.
Sounds like he will try to worm his way out of whatever you try to do. He is a true deadbeat in every sense. Just like mine was.
My kids are grown now as you know and still love there Dad, however they know whats what. No respect and he lost so very much. Stupid, they have no idea who they are really hurting and what they are giving up.
You are one tough cookie! You will come out on top one way or another!
I have a court ordered wage garnishment for my oldest daughter but that doesn't always work either. I went years without child support after a garnishment was put in place by the courts. The problem is he kept moving from job to job or working under the table and the child support division in Ct. was just to overloaded with cases to keep track of him but at 15 dollars a week the court awarded me it wasn't worth my time to bother. I did however get a check last week for 6 dollars and some change. What a joke. Shantel
Isn't this something that Support Enforcement is suppose to be doing? Aren't they the ones who should represent those kids? Talk about our goverment dollars at work....they don't. Work that is. If women need child support, it's probably a given that they can't afford an atty. and having to file all of that paperwork could be daunting.
Their case load is pretty overwhelming and frankly, they don't care about legal cost or anything like that.
Everything I mentioned can be done pro se' but an attorney is better.
Everything I mentioned can be done pro se' but an attorney is better.
Kerry,
What was the judge's response to the $50,000 in arrears? Isnt he the one who could and should issue all orders of discovery and withholding? Do you have an atty? If the judge is not stepping in for you as he should, Id say an atty is definitely in need. Too bad though that both you and your husband could be wasting your good money on lawyer fees............Divorce attorneys love marital discord!
What was the judge's response to the $50,000 in arrears? Isnt he the one who could and should issue all orders of discovery and withholding? Do you have an atty? If the judge is not stepping in for you as he should, Id say an atty is definitely in need. Too bad though that both you and your husband could be wasting your good money on lawyer fees............Divorce attorneys love marital discord!
The judge has already stepped in and issued a judgment for the $50,000 arrearage. In order to establish the arrears, an order of discovery has already been issued since the CS and subsequent arrearage is formulated on the basis of whatever he submitted in the dicovery order.
Again Ker- you need a witholding order (if not already in place), what is called a "citation to discover assets" and and then a garnishment order. Again, a set amount will be determined in the garnishment as well as the targets (ie: banks, employer, gumball machine)
There are only two types of debt (in the US) that have no restrictions as far as garnishment are concerned, CS/Alimony and federal taxes.
Non-compliance with a court ordered CS order can result in a felony.
Again Ker- you need a witholding order (if not already in place), what is called a "citation to discover assets" and and then a garnishment order. Again, a set amount will be determined in the garnishment as well as the targets (ie: banks, employer, gumball machine)
There are only two types of debt (in the US) that have no restrictions as far as garnishment are concerned, CS/Alimony and federal taxes.
Non-compliance with a court ordered CS order can result in a felony.
Non-compliance with a court ordered CS order can result in a felony.
Not here, it isn't a crime.
See, a few years ago I got an order. Filed in April, not initiated until the next Jan. It was based on him making 25 an hour.
He never paid anything..wait. I take that back. he had a hotel job that they took out of and he quickly quit that.
So his "friend/boss" then paid him under the table for the next three years. I finally got an attorney and last August started getting payments. I brought his boss into court. He got his support amount lowered by bringing in paystubs that reflect $15/hour.
He then, six months later, submitted paystubs to my attn showing $30 an hour. I turned those into CSEA and asked for a new amount, showing he had lied. They won't.
Now, we are stuck on giving him credits. He gave me a truck that I had to pay $2,400 to get out of repo ( he stopped making payments, but thank god I wasn't on the loan) and $4,200 to pay off. I sold it for $7,500.
that is a profit $900. His attorney today said it should be $15,000. My a**.
Anway, what makes me really mad is that CSEA does nothing. They should be going after his boss because they now have PROOF that he blatantly ignored child support orders for YEARS.
But you see, it isn't a crime.
i am sorry to bring this here, I just get so mad. I am shocked that the judge isn't appalled at the amount he owes; that should be jail. But, again, it isn't a crime in HI to not pay your support.
His attn is the legal counsel for the mayor of the big island. What a conflict of interest.
Danny, I will email you that affadavit. You will flip.
Not here, it isn't a crime.
See, a few years ago I got an order. Filed in April, not initiated until the next Jan. It was based on him making 25 an hour.
He never paid anything..wait. I take that back. he had a hotel job that they took out of and he quickly quit that.
So his "friend/boss" then paid him under the table for the next three years. I finally got an attorney and last August started getting payments. I brought his boss into court. He got his support amount lowered by bringing in paystubs that reflect $15/hour.
He then, six months later, submitted paystubs to my attn showing $30 an hour. I turned those into CSEA and asked for a new amount, showing he had lied. They won't.
Now, we are stuck on giving him credits. He gave me a truck that I had to pay $2,400 to get out of repo ( he stopped making payments, but thank god I wasn't on the loan) and $4,200 to pay off. I sold it for $7,500.
that is a profit $900. His attorney today said it should be $15,000. My a**.
Anway, what makes me really mad is that CSEA does nothing. They should be going after his boss because they now have PROOF that he blatantly ignored child support orders for YEARS.
But you see, it isn't a crime.
i am sorry to bring this here, I just get so mad. I am shocked that the judge isn't appalled at the amount he owes; that should be jail. But, again, it isn't a crime in HI to not pay your support.
His attn is the legal counsel for the mayor of the big island. What a conflict of interest.
Danny, I will email you that affadavit. You will flip.
It's a crime alright, but it's a petty misdemeanor in Hawaii.
You can however, have his drivers license suspended. That's faily easy.
Also, if you get a garnishment order, no bank is going to refuse it. Or any taxing authority. I'll check my email.
You can however, have his drivers license suspended. That's faily easy.
Also, if you get a garnishment order, no bank is going to refuse it. Or any taxing authority. I'll check my email.
Hi,
I'm truely sorry about your problems and although I agree dads, ( "dad" shouldn't even be used ) that don't pay should be hung. Even worse than the money is the emotional trama this all has on the kids. The only other thing that struck me here was this... I don't know who all here knows anything personal about you off this board or anywhere else online you might post, but I'd be carefull what you write about any of this concerning your thoughts or anything else. I've heard horror stories about people going through hell because of things said online that were never thought to be possible to have used against them. Just a suggestion. You hang in there. I'll keep you and your kids in my prayers. I've learned to pray for those I used to hate. I don't even like the word hate anymore. It's hard at first, but it does work and it will eventually free you from the negative control he has over your state of mind.
Take care,
Bob
I'm truely sorry about your problems and although I agree dads, ( "dad" shouldn't even be used ) that don't pay should be hung. Even worse than the money is the emotional trama this all has on the kids. The only other thing that struck me here was this... I don't know who all here knows anything personal about you off this board or anywhere else online you might post, but I'd be carefull what you write about any of this concerning your thoughts or anything else. I've heard horror stories about people going through hell because of things said online that were never thought to be possible to have used against them. Just a suggestion. You hang in there. I'll keep you and your kids in my prayers. I've learned to pray for those I used to hate. I don't even like the word hate anymore. It's hard at first, but it does work and it will eventually free you from the negative control he has over your state of mind.
Take care,
Bob
Hey Bob,
You are so right about that. When I was able to forgive my ex, I mean really forgive him. I have become so much more at peace and believe myself to be a much better person because of that. The power that I gave to him was unbelievable. "Let go and let god". Those are the words that moved me to forgive.
This was not easy, for many many hardships have been endured over the leaner years by me and my kids. But what strikes me most is the abandonment that I know my kids felt and all the problems they had because they had a deadbeat Dad that was not only financially unavailable but emotionally.
As I think about this its my son that I think of first....I have flashbacks of him being 10 years old and his Dad had promised to take him to his football game. He kept calling me at work saying "he is not here yet". I could hear the desperation in his voice and I knew that he wasn't going to come. I left work and raced 100 miles an hour to get him....I found him walking...he was about 4 blocks from our house fully suited in his gear carry his helmet and cleats. He said that if he was late the coach wouldn't play him. I got him there on time and he played and they won. I will never forget that and he perhaps won't either.
My daughter about to be 24 suffers too but in different ways little girls suffer the loss of there Daddy.
They are strong fiercely independent people and they love and respect me for all I have given them. But I am no hero...just a Mom.
I know the pain and rage you feel Kerry. Man if I can give you any advice it would be just that. Do what you can legally, cover all the bases...then "Let go and let god".
Your a great Mom!
I probably spill way more than I should here too...but I am not un proud of anything. Nor should you be Kerry....but I know these situations can get real ugly. As far as I am concerned you have never said anything to hurt yourself. Your journey of recovery shines. Like you!
You are so right about that. When I was able to forgive my ex, I mean really forgive him. I have become so much more at peace and believe myself to be a much better person because of that. The power that I gave to him was unbelievable. "Let go and let god". Those are the words that moved me to forgive.
This was not easy, for many many hardships have been endured over the leaner years by me and my kids. But what strikes me most is the abandonment that I know my kids felt and all the problems they had because they had a deadbeat Dad that was not only financially unavailable but emotionally.
As I think about this its my son that I think of first....I have flashbacks of him being 10 years old and his Dad had promised to take him to his football game. He kept calling me at work saying "he is not here yet". I could hear the desperation in his voice and I knew that he wasn't going to come. I left work and raced 100 miles an hour to get him....I found him walking...he was about 4 blocks from our house fully suited in his gear carry his helmet and cleats. He said that if he was late the coach wouldn't play him. I got him there on time and he played and they won. I will never forget that and he perhaps won't either.
My daughter about to be 24 suffers too but in different ways little girls suffer the loss of there Daddy.
They are strong fiercely independent people and they love and respect me for all I have given them. But I am no hero...just a Mom.
I know the pain and rage you feel Kerry. Man if I can give you any advice it would be just that. Do what you can legally, cover all the bases...then "Let go and let god".
Your a great Mom!
I probably spill way more than I should here too...but I am not un proud of anything. Nor should you be Kerry....but I know these situations can get real ugly. As far as I am concerned you have never said anything to hurt yourself. Your journey of recovery shines. Like you!
thank you all for listening.
Danny, I will email those affadavits in the morning or afternoon. I am going w/ my daughter's kindergarten class on a whale watch.
thank you all, again, and I am sorry to bring it here. I just had to vent.
Danny, I will email those affadavits in the morning or afternoon. I am going w/ my daughter's kindergarten class on a whale watch.
thank you all, again, and I am sorry to bring it here. I just had to vent.
Kerry,
I think you got excellent advice on this thread -- advice so complex and detailed that I failed to grasp most of it. I'm sure if I understood all the legal things, I would agree wholeheartedly -- as wholeheartedly as I agree with Lisa that deadbeat dads should be shot, and their pockets searched for valuables.
Of course you should come here to vent on a topic that hurts you so much that it affects your recovery -- you know as well as I do that quality sobriety means more than simply not using.
You have every right to be furious with your ex, both for his financial and, even more, his emotional abandonment of your children. I'm not really sure if this will come out right but what I've found from talking with lawyers is that they're not interested in our anger and being justifiably enraged counts against me even with my own lawyer on some level. So, if you can, reserve your anger for venting on the board or to your friends. Try to maintain that still center when you deal with the system.
Remember, revenge is a dish best served cold. Your ex has a nine-course banquet due him and I'll keep my fingers crossed that you are there to see him choke on it.
Good luck with all this. I'm really sorry for what's happened to you and your children. It's not right. Not right at all.
Love,
Gina
I think you got excellent advice on this thread -- advice so complex and detailed that I failed to grasp most of it. I'm sure if I understood all the legal things, I would agree wholeheartedly -- as wholeheartedly as I agree with Lisa that deadbeat dads should be shot, and their pockets searched for valuables.
Of course you should come here to vent on a topic that hurts you so much that it affects your recovery -- you know as well as I do that quality sobriety means more than simply not using.
You have every right to be furious with your ex, both for his financial and, even more, his emotional abandonment of your children. I'm not really sure if this will come out right but what I've found from talking with lawyers is that they're not interested in our anger and being justifiably enraged counts against me even with my own lawyer on some level. So, if you can, reserve your anger for venting on the board or to your friends. Try to maintain that still center when you deal with the system.
Remember, revenge is a dish best served cold. Your ex has a nine-course banquet due him and I'll keep my fingers crossed that you are there to see him choke on it.
Good luck with all this. I'm really sorry for what's happened to you and your children. It's not right. Not right at all.
Love,
Gina
Kerry...Boy can I understand your anger on this.I havent recieved child support in about 8 years!!! Yup the abuser(SOB) works off the books & I think of all the things my beautiful girls could of got with even 100.00 a mth support...It hurts
BUT on the plus side the SOB hasnt been near them in 10 years so I suppose Id rather NOT get the $$$ if it means my girls are safe.
Ive thought about writing child support,because even a 50.00 pass through payment would be nice for the girls,but I suppose a part of me is still scared of him.
I mean this man set my truck on fire 10ft away from my bedroom window,he did things to Amanda I just cannot bare to think of,So in the end I feel he will get whats comming because we all know that saying
WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND....I only pray Im there to see it....
Sorry I know this sounds bitter....but thats because I am
BUT on the plus side the SOB hasnt been near them in 10 years so I suppose Id rather NOT get the $$$ if it means my girls are safe.
Ive thought about writing child support,because even a 50.00 pass through payment would be nice for the girls,but I suppose a part of me is still scared of him.
I mean this man set my truck on fire 10ft away from my bedroom window,he did things to Amanda I just cannot bare to think of,So in the end I feel he will get whats comming because we all know that saying
WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND....I only pray Im there to see it....
Sorry I know this sounds bitter....but thats because I am
I'm not really sure if this will come out right but what I've found from talking with lawyers is that they're not interested in our anger and being justifiably enraged counts against me even with my own lawyer on some level.
I am learning this. I think that is why child support is so flippant with me.
I have been calm with my own lawyer, but I see her leveling out and the chitter chatter with the evil CSEA lawyer like they are buds.
This is only 64k in child support. I know...no emotion.lol
molls, I just have to believe in a higher court and punishment....it has got to come around.
I am learning this. I think that is why child support is so flippant with me.
I have been calm with my own lawyer, but I see her leveling out and the chitter chatter with the evil CSEA lawyer like they are buds.
This is only 64k in child support. I know...no emotion.lol
molls, I just have to believe in a higher court and punishment....it has got to come around.
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Well, of course it's more than just the money -- which is bad enough in itself. It's the devastation your ex has wrought on your family through his unconscionable emotional abandonment.
When I read what he had done to your daughter (picking up his gf's daughter from school) I wanted to go Spanish Inquisition on him. There is a special circle of Hell reserved for men like him, where the red hot pincers come out and little lumps of flesh are removed, one by one, for all of eternity.
(It's okay to get angry here. Just try to stay calm with the idjuts at CS.)
