please im strating this for ,cowgirl,,,now shes very hurt by people here,,,please tell her you love her,,all of you ..I no its none of my busness..we all care and love people more than others,,thats life...but she doesnt want to come back,,,for shes sad that people ,just dont get it////?????????recovery ,,,frist,,,,please we need her ,,,,please ,,,,and I thought me leaving was bad,,,,cowgirl is our guiding lite......love to you all poopie
well I was aware of this situation and I saw it coming and have been there myself... let me explain something... when you post something in an honest attempt to help someone... one person... and have one or two.... maybe three people jump in the same people jump in .... over and over... just for the sake of who it came from and/or for the sake of making sure that nobody got a little more 'glory' or 'thunder' than they did... or a particular way did.... then it get old and you start to get a toxic feeling in your recovery.... the best of us get tired... and we cant help be get frustrated and let ourselves get drawn in.... it happens nobody on here is perfect and i mean nobody.... and there on people on her the pretend to be clean and sober that are far from it that on a daily basis but still post from the top of their lungs about the faults as they percieve them about those that are and how they come off.... without cleaning there own porches off.... then there are those that know the opinion I speak and just keep quiet .. that is ok... I know longer like controversy.. as I have stayed away a lot too lately but I have seen this all unfold with cg and I am sorry for the board at least for as long as it last.... it is a shame....
I am sorry for cg... though we dont alway see eye to eye.... I know her heart is in the right place and her words are true.... she dont like to play games.. I gave up the fight a long time ago... I hope she has more resolve than i did.... I still try some days but all in all....
I am sorry poopie... I know cg know the ones that think the most of her....and to the ones that were trying to get a point accross ... well..... what can I say....
Teresa
I am sorry for cg... though we dont alway see eye to eye.... I know her heart is in the right place and her words are true.... she dont like to play games.. I gave up the fight a long time ago... I hope she has more resolve than i did.... I still try some days but all in all....
I am sorry poopie... I know cg know the ones that think the most of her....and to the ones that were trying to get a point accross ... well..... what can I say....
Teresa
thankyou sweetheart ,you are a true teaher ....and blessed with alot of wise thoughts,,,,,love poopie my respect for you is great,,,,now cowgirl ,please read and see all the wise people here that love you,,poopie
Lisa, the thought of you not posting here anymore is terribly sad. I know you've had a hard time with some of the people here, but we must always remember to "place principles before personalities".
You have helped so many people, more than the ones that post against you.
You've helped me, get my act together, though you may have sounded brisk, your message was powerful enough to heed.
Know that I love you!
You have helped so many people, more than the ones that post against you.
You've helped me, get my act together, though you may have sounded brisk, your message was powerful enough to heed.
Know that I love you!
C'mon Cowgirl, we need you here to keep a balance in the force. Personally I think you got a raw deal on what I have read from the posts last week. The way I see it, your way works, so do others. What one someone chooses is a process of self evaluation and knowledge obtained. You certainly have givin your fair share of what you have, and I believe it is needed very badly here.
Best Regards,
Tom
Best Regards,
Tom
HI, cowgirl you are so needed here i know it feels like it's just to much but there are so many that have and are learning from your wisdom and support please don't let the negative turn you away its the positive that you have done that is all that matters in the long run. LOVE + HUGS LITTLE H.
While I think Cowgirl had a lot to offer the board, gave strength and support to so many, her fault was in not giving respect to those with different opinions. I dont agree with those who would band up and attack her - that just shows they are weak on their own, but so many times I wished she would have just said her peace here without having to throw in a bit of superiority with it. That is how I perceived it anyway. I KNOW she was always willing to support anyone in need, and I KNOW she is so focused on her means of recovery because IT WORKS - but her next step is to just be happy about all successful means of recovery. Yes there are many here who are full of #*%& about everything from what they are not taking to what they are not doing for recovery and then try to espouse information here - they are losers. But for the majority here who I truly believe are WORKING any program and it is bringing them positive results allow them their time in the spotlight as well. I stay away from here days and sometimes weeks at a time because there is nothing for me, just negativity which is not beneficial, so I can see where Cowgirl needs her time away. Hopefully she will come back even wiser in working with fellow addicts. There is always going to be those losers here who just want drama and trouble. That will never cease, unfortunately.........Cowgirl seems to me to be a TRUE success story and so I hope she can continue being a shining example for those truly seeking sobriety.
Cowgirl I want to say you are loved
you are needed
and you are wanted
DONT let a few take your great advice from here to people who still need it.Your a strong woman much stronger than you know....mj
you are needed
and you are wanted
DONT let a few take your great advice from here to people who still need it.Your a strong woman much stronger than you know....mj
Can you blame her?
CG
Come on back, girl. Your skin is thicker than that. Don't let a few ruin it for the people that you help. It's just not about you any more and you know it. There're too many addict out there that need to hear what you've got. Take a break, take a deep breath, and help others.
lovin ya
Come on back, girl. Your skin is thicker than that. Don't let a few ruin it for the people that you help. It's just not about you any more and you know it. There're too many addict out there that need to hear what you've got. Take a break, take a deep breath, and help others.
lovin ya
Cowgirl is in as much need of getting support as she is in giving it. I think thats something everyone forgets - including her. She's not invincible - but she IS a success story.......
I dont think she felt she was getting the support here which is a shame as I have been here since Nov 04 & Ive learned alot just from reading what she writes.How sad it is that people on a recovery board can stoop to the sick levels Ive seen on here lately....mj
cowgirl,
I really hope that you do not leave this board!!!!
I am not active here daily, but did see some bits & pieces of the NA/AA bashing (towards you mostly) that I am assuming is part of why you may be leaving here.
Even though many may say they do not agree with the NA/AA program of recovery, one day they may change their minds and find the serenity and TRUE RECOVERY that comes thru the rooms of NA/AA.
For a very long time, I myself thought that I could "recover" without NA. Well, I was able to not use for long periods of time. But I would always end up relapsing - cause I was determined to do it my way and not the NA way. I would again be able to not use for a while, then the same cycle again.
I WANTED WHAT YOU, TERESA, AND OTHERS HAD - TRUE RECOVERY!!!!
NOT JUST "NOT USING"!!!!
I have never said this here (shame on me cause I have meant to say many things for a while now!!) - I will say it now - - -
I FINALLY dedicated myself to NA and true recovery because of YOU, Teresa, Janet, Rachael, and the many others here that never stop trying to pass along the message of the 12-step program!!!!!!
Complete abstinance from ALL drugs (including alcohol!!!), going to meetings, working the steps with my awesome sponsor, learning & using the tools to dig deep inside of my soul to figure out the reasons I used and how to live without ever using again, continuing individual therapy with my psychiatrist/addiction specialist, reading & posting here, and most importantly having the f2f support from recovering addicts in the program are all SOOOO critical to my recovery!!!
If I had not heard over & over & over again about the NA/AA program from yourself & others here - and actually witnessed that success, I would NOT be where I am today!!!!!
I want you to know that you played a major role in saving my life!!!!
Not only is NA helping to keep me clean, it is opening my eyes to SOOOOO much more!!! Way beyond my wildest imagination!!!
I now have friends that truely care about me & my recovery!!! The REAL me - the open & honest & unafraid me!!! The me that I did not even know existed cause I had never been able to open up like I am now!! They are showing me a new way of life!!!!
I found these true friends in the rooms of NA - the place I would NOT have been if it were not for those of you here that demonstrate that the program WORKS!!! And continue to promote and talk about it, even when others do not like it!!!! I sure did not like it for a long time!!!! I hated hearing what I did not want to hear!!! But that is just me.....
If you do leave, that is your choice and I wish you the best in everything you do. I'm sure you know how much you will be missed here!!
I just wanted to let you know that I admire you SOOOO much!!!
And a HUGE thank you for the part you played in saving me from my destructive addict self!!!!!
Swizzle
I really hope that you do not leave this board!!!!
I am not active here daily, but did see some bits & pieces of the NA/AA bashing (towards you mostly) that I am assuming is part of why you may be leaving here.
Even though many may say they do not agree with the NA/AA program of recovery, one day they may change their minds and find the serenity and TRUE RECOVERY that comes thru the rooms of NA/AA.
For a very long time, I myself thought that I could "recover" without NA. Well, I was able to not use for long periods of time. But I would always end up relapsing - cause I was determined to do it my way and not the NA way. I would again be able to not use for a while, then the same cycle again.
I WANTED WHAT YOU, TERESA, AND OTHERS HAD - TRUE RECOVERY!!!!
NOT JUST "NOT USING"!!!!
I have never said this here (shame on me cause I have meant to say many things for a while now!!) - I will say it now - - -
I FINALLY dedicated myself to NA and true recovery because of YOU, Teresa, Janet, Rachael, and the many others here that never stop trying to pass along the message of the 12-step program!!!!!!
Complete abstinance from ALL drugs (including alcohol!!!), going to meetings, working the steps with my awesome sponsor, learning & using the tools to dig deep inside of my soul to figure out the reasons I used and how to live without ever using again, continuing individual therapy with my psychiatrist/addiction specialist, reading & posting here, and most importantly having the f2f support from recovering addicts in the program are all SOOOO critical to my recovery!!!
If I had not heard over & over & over again about the NA/AA program from yourself & others here - and actually witnessed that success, I would NOT be where I am today!!!!!
I want you to know that you played a major role in saving my life!!!!
Not only is NA helping to keep me clean, it is opening my eyes to SOOOOO much more!!! Way beyond my wildest imagination!!!
I now have friends that truely care about me & my recovery!!! The REAL me - the open & honest & unafraid me!!! The me that I did not even know existed cause I had never been able to open up like I am now!! They are showing me a new way of life!!!!
I found these true friends in the rooms of NA - the place I would NOT have been if it were not for those of you here that demonstrate that the program WORKS!!! And continue to promote and talk about it, even when others do not like it!!!! I sure did not like it for a long time!!!! I hated hearing what I did not want to hear!!! But that is just me.....
If you do leave, that is your choice and I wish you the best in everything you do. I'm sure you know how much you will be missed here!!
I just wanted to let you know that I admire you SOOOO much!!!
And a HUGE thank you for the part you played in saving me from my destructive addict self!!!!!
Swizzle
Lisa I hope you can feel all the people who truley look up to you.Let others say whatever it is they say.YOU have always stood for TRUE recovery & you can help so many.I just didnt picture you as giving up.I know you love to help people,I know it helps you in your recovery to reach out & help others.Please rethink this.You are missed.....mj
Swizzle,
Wow! What an awesome post!
Cowgirl,
You know how I feel about you. I value your friendship and what you so freely give to others.
Wow! What an awesome post!
Cowgirl,
You know how I feel about you. I value your friendship and what you so freely give to others.
Swizzle:
I really appreciate your post. Thank you. I know how much courage it took to post that on this Board at this given time. You made me smile, my friend.
Rachel
And I feel bad already because there ae SOOOOO many here that played a part in saving my life!!!
I'm at work, it's complete insanity right now and I can't even think!!!
Forget about thinking of names....LOL....there are too many....
Thank you to EVERYONE here!!!!
Even those that are still using help me - - I NEVER want to go back there again!!!!
Clean & sober is a beautiful way to live !!!!!
Who woulda known ?!?!?!
:-)
XOXOXOXOXO
I'm at work, it's complete insanity right now and I can't even think!!!
Forget about thinking of names....LOL....there are too many....
Thank you to EVERYONE here!!!!
Even those that are still using help me - - I NEVER want to go back there again!!!!
Clean & sober is a beautiful way to live !!!!!
Who woulda known ?!?!?!
:-)
XOXOXOXOXO
Well, this is exactly why there are these problems...... Swizzle glad you had success with NA when nothing else worked for you. BUT there are those who have success without NA - PLEEEEAASE lets not let this board not support and honor those people as well. I think I caught my addiction/use/whatever of pills before it got out of hand and perhaps that is why I did not need NA. But there are many who cannot go to NA for various reasons and they need to be supported and congratulated with their success as well. I dont know, maybe it depends on the severity of the addiction - and then NA comes more into play - but for those who truly want to be done with pills and have decided to just white knuckle it with supports such as this board - lets make this their home as well. Its great to hear your success with NA, and its great to hear those who did it another way. Respect please. For all.
I havent been around much,what happened? Summarize please.I have a short attention span.
cowgirl,
I have not posted here since I posted after 16hrs. of w/d. You and red gave me the encouragement and support that I needed. i could never thank you enough.It has been 12/ months since i took anything and I owe to you and this board. I don't usually post but, I do read about others. Please, stay on the board.
lml
I have not posted here since I posted after 16hrs. of w/d. You and red gave me the encouragement and support that I needed. i could never thank you enough.It has been 12/ months since i took anything and I owe to you and this board. I don't usually post but, I do read about others. Please, stay on the board.
lml
