Hi all, me again. I've read all your posts a hundred times and can't thank you enough.
My daughter, now in her 10th day of detox from herion (after using for 7 years) still has acute pain in her stomach and now the pain is travelling up the top of her back. She does not feel the librium is helping her.
She seemed a bit more relaxed last night and the pain had subsided a bit. She didn't sleep and the pain has now came back.
Is this normal? It seems to go on for ever and ever with varying symptoms. Does anyone know when the physical side of things die down.
She still looks really drawn and grey. I would appreciate any advice.
Thank you.
Hey Desparate,
Unfortunatly withdrawl doesn't run on "microwave" time. It is a process that has to work itself out. There are so many things to factor in like how long and how much she used. Sleep, feeling normal, and all the things that come with recovery will come with a strong enough fight, commitment, a will to live, and most importantly giving one's self a chance! The first 1/2 months in recovery are very important because of the cravings and the body trying to re~adjust to the normal way of life. Water, eating healthy, exercise, and vitamins help a great deal also. All the best to you and your daughter!
Darin
Unfortunatly withdrawl doesn't run on "microwave" time. It is a process that has to work itself out. There are so many things to factor in like how long and how much she used. Sleep, feeling normal, and all the things that come with recovery will come with a strong enough fight, commitment, a will to live, and most importantly giving one's self a chance! The first 1/2 months in recovery are very important because of the cravings and the body trying to re~adjust to the normal way of life. Water, eating healthy, exercise, and vitamins help a great deal also. All the best to you and your daughter!
Darin
Thanks Darin. What you say makes a lot of sense. I think I just want the whole bloody thing to go away. The past few years have been a nightmare and I think when she decided to start the detox programme 10 days ago I thought every day she would get better and one morning she would wake up and the nightmare would have ended with no trace.
Unfortunately, from the posts I have read this is certainly not the case.
She want's to come on the pc but doesn't know what to say but I think she would really benefit for some moral support from people who know first hand what she is going through. Any ideas?
Thanks for your help.
Desparate
Unfortunately, from the posts I have read this is certainly not the case.
She want's to come on the pc but doesn't know what to say but I think she would really benefit for some moral support from people who know first hand what she is going through. Any ideas?
Thanks for your help.
Desparate
Desparate,
I would have loved to take a magic pill for it to have gone away when I was detoxing but then I would have not been blessed with that struggle. You see...going through it the way I did let me know what was waiting for me should I return PLUS if I keep giving myself a chance I will NEVER have to live that way again. So many times I failed at getting clean because I "just wanted it to go away". What made the last time stand out was that I was so tired and wanted out so bad that I was willing to do what it took. I felt something I had never felt in all my attempts to get clean.....A YEARNING! I yearned to live a better life not for anyone but me! Now is the time start doing self work....NOW! I say yes she should come on and talk to like minded individuals who share her pain but have managed to make it through one day at a time. It is very important that she begin to build a support network that will surround her with positive thoughts and and helpful tools should she need help. I would be willing to talk to her as well(darin-green@hotmail.com)because someone helped me and that is what recovery is all about.
Darin
I would have loved to take a magic pill for it to have gone away when I was detoxing but then I would have not been blessed with that struggle. You see...going through it the way I did let me know what was waiting for me should I return PLUS if I keep giving myself a chance I will NEVER have to live that way again. So many times I failed at getting clean because I "just wanted it to go away". What made the last time stand out was that I was so tired and wanted out so bad that I was willing to do what it took. I felt something I had never felt in all my attempts to get clean.....A YEARNING! I yearned to live a better life not for anyone but me! Now is the time start doing self work....NOW! I say yes she should come on and talk to like minded individuals who share her pain but have managed to make it through one day at a time. It is very important that she begin to build a support network that will surround her with positive thoughts and and helpful tools should she need help. I would be willing to talk to her as well(darin-green@hotmail.com)because someone helped me and that is what recovery is all about.
Darin
Thank so much Darin. I have given my daughter your email address (that was really helpful of you) and she is going to send you a message. She is struggling to concentrate and is really self conscious so she finds it embarassing. I hope she contacts you soon because I am sure it will really help her.
Thanks
Desparate
Thanks
Desparate
Desparate,
Its ok/normal for her to feel all those things because they are apart of the process. I would be more worried if she said she felt "fine". She is NO different from the next person that made a bad choice...doesnt make her any less of a person. She has no reason to feel embarrased!
Darin
Its ok/normal for her to feel all those things because they are apart of the process. I would be more worried if she said she felt "fine". She is NO different from the next person that made a bad choice...doesnt make her any less of a person. She has no reason to feel embarrased!
Darin
LIBRIAM AINT KNOW GOOD THAT WONT HELP WITH CLUCKIN MAKE HER WORSE
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CHARLIE
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CHARLIE
Alright, DM......day 10.....good for her....I was worrying about her.....that is good news, and like I posted before SHE WANTS THIS....she's a fighter.
I echo Darin.....many people have that back pain.....I did myself, and you're basically laying down, and you can't sleep so it is continuous....she is doing really well......it's not an easy feat.....plus I'm sure she's been through it before and when ya know what's coming it scares you......although knowing what's in the way kind of helps......no education you get so frustrated....I could not fathom when my eyes didn't close in ten days how I was living.....I threw tantrums.....physical pain no problem......but no sleep just i snot natural.
I have posted before something that helped me...a counselor/friend told me.
Thing of it like a penjulum (sic) like on a clock....the opiates made it swing waaaay to the left...to the extreme.....so detoxing makes it go waaaay to the right naturally.....thus our symptoms during detox......but we can promise her little by little it's going to swing the right speed in the right ways.....it does pass.
I'm very thrilled she's hanging in there.
As for the librium.....I know some people are helped by it.....me it made me way worse.......plus I was afraid of a benzo addiction......I had some somebody gave me for a detox, and it makes me mean......like the next day.....mean as a whipper snapper, and I wrecked havoc......I expected it to get me some sleep, and it didn't, and just made me weirded out....so it could be that too.....now again it's my opinion......and obviously Charly's......not a great drug....although with alcohol detox they give that in detox.....so if she thinks she needs it....I guess it's up to her....me I just needed to cut that out the librium.
Bottom line she's truly hanging tough......those symptoms like Darin said follow us around for months.......we sometimes don't want to go for a walk because we are afraid of outside.....like a trigger, but walking saved me.....I walked for months......in the right direction...it helps that back pain, and leg cramps....we did so much to our digestive system it too takes time to readjust.....not to be foul, but anyone here can tell you......the smell that comes out of our poors....you just smell poison coming out of every part of you......for me that was reassuring as I figured thank goodness it's leaving.
Sorry for long post.......also like Darin said......we are the faces of addicts....good people who made mistakes.....we're daughters, sons, mom's, friends, nurses, crossing guards, animal lovers, dancers, and on, and on....we just messed up, and we can come back.....I got good feelings for your daughter.
PLUS YOU ARE A GREAT MOM......she's fortunate to have you.
P.S. Funny you said that you would like for her just to wake up, and it be over.
A movie with Frank Sinatra called "Man With A Godlen Arm"......also Kim Novak
That movie shows Frank thrown in a closet, and locked in by Kim, and POOF after a shakey night....POOF......she lets him out, and he's on the other side, and they actually walk off into the sunrise.....well my mom thought that's how it went.....she was waiting for me to POOF.....LOL.....that is until you see day three mounting, and you child sweating, writhing, and begging....no POOF...LOL
So last time that was on that movie....my mom says "What a load of phooey".
LOLLOL.......you're telling me....if only...LOL....hang in there DM
I echo Darin.....many people have that back pain.....I did myself, and you're basically laying down, and you can't sleep so it is continuous....she is doing really well......it's not an easy feat.....plus I'm sure she's been through it before and when ya know what's coming it scares you......although knowing what's in the way kind of helps......no education you get so frustrated....I could not fathom when my eyes didn't close in ten days how I was living.....I threw tantrums.....physical pain no problem......but no sleep just i snot natural.
I have posted before something that helped me...a counselor/friend told me.
Thing of it like a penjulum (sic) like on a clock....the opiates made it swing waaaay to the left...to the extreme.....so detoxing makes it go waaaay to the right naturally.....thus our symptoms during detox......but we can promise her little by little it's going to swing the right speed in the right ways.....it does pass.
I'm very thrilled she's hanging in there.
As for the librium.....I know some people are helped by it.....me it made me way worse.......plus I was afraid of a benzo addiction......I had some somebody gave me for a detox, and it makes me mean......like the next day.....mean as a whipper snapper, and I wrecked havoc......I expected it to get me some sleep, and it didn't, and just made me weirded out....so it could be that too.....now again it's my opinion......and obviously Charly's......not a great drug....although with alcohol detox they give that in detox.....so if she thinks she needs it....I guess it's up to her....me I just needed to cut that out the librium.
Bottom line she's truly hanging tough......those symptoms like Darin said follow us around for months.......we sometimes don't want to go for a walk because we are afraid of outside.....like a trigger, but walking saved me.....I walked for months......in the right direction...it helps that back pain, and leg cramps....we did so much to our digestive system it too takes time to readjust.....not to be foul, but anyone here can tell you......the smell that comes out of our poors....you just smell poison coming out of every part of you......for me that was reassuring as I figured thank goodness it's leaving.
Sorry for long post.......also like Darin said......we are the faces of addicts....good people who made mistakes.....we're daughters, sons, mom's, friends, nurses, crossing guards, animal lovers, dancers, and on, and on....we just messed up, and we can come back.....I got good feelings for your daughter.
PLUS YOU ARE A GREAT MOM......she's fortunate to have you.
P.S. Funny you said that you would like for her just to wake up, and it be over.
A movie with Frank Sinatra called "Man With A Godlen Arm"......also Kim Novak
That movie shows Frank thrown in a closet, and locked in by Kim, and POOF after a shakey night....POOF......she lets him out, and he's on the other side, and they actually walk off into the sunrise.....well my mom thought that's how it went.....she was waiting for me to POOF.....LOL.....that is until you see day three mounting, and you child sweating, writhing, and begging....no POOF...LOL
So last time that was on that movie....my mom says "What a load of phooey".
LOLLOL.......you're telling me....if only...LOL....hang in there DM
Hey Bryn,
GREAT POST......AS ALWAYS! Hope all has been well with you!
Darin
GREAT POST......AS ALWAYS! Hope all has been well with you!
Darin
Thanks Darin and Brynn for your support. I have read out all your messages to my daughter (Yvonne) and she really appreciates your help. She is so relieved she has found this website. She is going to post a message herself. Now that I am back at work today she can use the pc all day in peace. I hoard it trying to find out information!!!
All my best wishes.
Desparate
All my best wishes.
Desparate
Dear Yvonne,
Glad to have you join us! I wish you well in your recovery and will be praying for you. My son was addicted to heroin and now has 14 1/2 months heroin free. Listen to Darin and Brynn. They're the BEST!
God bless!
Susan
Glad to have you join us! I wish you well in your recovery and will be praying for you. My son was addicted to heroin and now has 14 1/2 months heroin free. Listen to Darin and Brynn. They're the BEST!
God bless!
Susan
