I called today to find out when in April...or end of March I should make a solid plan...this time I spoke to an intake counselor and the subject of Lupus/chronic pain came up. He told me it was the wrong facility because it wasn't a medical facility...I am livid. I didn't say anything about chronic pain last time. Evidently, unless they think you have a plan for pain control when trleased they don't want to deal with you..like it's a waste of their time. In other words you have to lie and just say you are abusing...he told me to go to a hospital. I then asked to speak to the director and he said my dose was too high to be treated w/o medical supervision.?????????There were guys detoxing off heroin last time I was there. Bottom line...if I want to detox it will be Putnam Hospital....and they use methadone.Is it so bad to do it for a week or so...they wean you off so you go home clean. I don't like the idea of it but for a short term detox.......how bad could it be? At least I will be in a supervised medical setting. I didn't really like the other place anyway but my last detox wasn't too painful and they got the job done. To get into their detox you have to go through the ER....what do you all think? (I know I need a "pain plan" when I get out.....Thanks, Sharonn
SharonN,
I'm sorry. I know you were hanging a lot of hope on this detox program. I don't know what to tell you because I'm not familiar with rehab, nor with Lupus and chronic pain.
I do think though that it's an excellent idea for you to work out a pain plan.
I hope you figure out how to handle this.
Love you,
Gina
I'm sorry. I know you were hanging a lot of hope on this detox program. I don't know what to tell you because I'm not familiar with rehab, nor with Lupus and chronic pain.
I do think though that it's an excellent idea for you to work out a pain plan.
I hope you figure out how to handle this.
Love you,
Gina
I called again and spoke to someone else....they said in reviewing my chartI was a "difficult" patient because I refused meds...my blood pressure dropped very low so I stopped taking the clonopin?????Why did I get 2 different reasons? There is 1 Dr. there and it is not considered a medical facility...I will have to taper on my own if I want off. This sucks...here I am asking for help and they are giving me a hard time.I DON't think methadone detox is a good idea at all...that is the other option. Damn.
Sharon, Can you call back and ask to speak to the doctor in charge (or make an app't to see him F2F)? You're getting the run around here and it's very confusing.
I'm sorry I'm not more help -- I don't know anything about methadone, medical detox, or clonipin. I do think you shouldn't have to do this on your own. At the very least, one of your doctors should help you work out a pain plan so there will be less uncertainty in the future.
xoxo
Gina
I'm sorry I'm not more help -- I don't know anything about methadone, medical detox, or clonipin. I do think you shouldn't have to do this on your own. At the very least, one of your doctors should help you work out a pain plan so there will be less uncertainty in the future.
xoxo
Gina
Well, here's an option...flush em. Get on with it. If you want off the meds, bite the bullet and just do it. Clear your calendar for a week, stay home and take care of yourself. Let your dr know what you're doing though. Listen Sharonn, you have gone through this so many times. You had a thread last July that was almost identical. So what's not working? It's not the detox unit, it's you. This has got to come from you. Personally? I don't think, with your chronic pain, that you should be off of meds, but if that's what you want? Get er' done. Stop screwing around with and making yourself nuts. Anytime you want to talk, please email me. Love, Lisa
Sharon how much oxy do you take a day?
Hey Sharonn,
That sucks, a lot. But I keep thinking (and I have been pondering posting about this) that maybe being on the opiate medication is the best thing for your condition... I know you are physically dependent on the drugs, but if they are working for you (and Lupus is no joke) and you can find a way to cope with being on opiate medication given that you had issues in the past, then why isn't that ok? Maybe it would be just as therapeutic for you to be on this medicine if it's working and try to work on the psychological piece of things in a group (like a pain group) or with a therapist (and if you already have one, I'm sorry if I forgot).
But sometimes, and this isn't the addict talking, it's the nurse and the Bridget (and I know the addict is in there, but still), we get so scared of these drugs because they have had a powerful hold on our psyche, but if you need good, long term, pain control, this might be the most effective solution.... It is unfortunate, but opiates are really the most effective pain management tool in many situations, especially when you are dealing with visceral and inflammatory pain (something to deal with the inflammation is obviously needed too, and I understand why you were thinking about prednisone)... I don't know, I would just hate to see you suffering because you are scared of what these medications are capable of in terms of addiction.
Have you seen pain management specialists? Do you know what all of your options are for controlling the SLE (I don't know a whole lot about the long term treatment for it)?
That's just what I'm thinking... I absolutely understand why you don't want to be using opiates anymore, but I would also hate to see you go off of them without having some practical pain management plan in place. Because it's real. And it's there, but suffering is needless.
That's just what I'm thinking right now... Please fill in the gaps for me and tell me your thoughts (even if it's that I'm totally off base).
B
That sucks, a lot. But I keep thinking (and I have been pondering posting about this) that maybe being on the opiate medication is the best thing for your condition... I know you are physically dependent on the drugs, but if they are working for you (and Lupus is no joke) and you can find a way to cope with being on opiate medication given that you had issues in the past, then why isn't that ok? Maybe it would be just as therapeutic for you to be on this medicine if it's working and try to work on the psychological piece of things in a group (like a pain group) or with a therapist (and if you already have one, I'm sorry if I forgot).
But sometimes, and this isn't the addict talking, it's the nurse and the Bridget (and I know the addict is in there, but still), we get so scared of these drugs because they have had a powerful hold on our psyche, but if you need good, long term, pain control, this might be the most effective solution.... It is unfortunate, but opiates are really the most effective pain management tool in many situations, especially when you are dealing with visceral and inflammatory pain (something to deal with the inflammation is obviously needed too, and I understand why you were thinking about prednisone)... I don't know, I would just hate to see you suffering because you are scared of what these medications are capable of in terms of addiction.
Have you seen pain management specialists? Do you know what all of your options are for controlling the SLE (I don't know a whole lot about the long term treatment for it)?
That's just what I'm thinking... I absolutely understand why you don't want to be using opiates anymore, but I would also hate to see you go off of them without having some practical pain management plan in place. Because it's real. And it's there, but suffering is needless.
That's just what I'm thinking right now... Please fill in the gaps for me and tell me your thoughts (even if it's that I'm totally off base).
B
This Board never disappoints....today, Larry the Cable guy is giving inspiration. Cowgirl, you're too funny.
What??? What did I say? lol
lmao @ None!
Lisa, Larry the cable guy says "get er done".
You stepped into another one, gf.
When you call from now on, you know what I'm going to say. hehe
xxxoooo
Lisa, Larry the cable guy says "get er done".
You stepped into another one, gf.
When you call from now on, you know what I'm going to say. hehe
xxxoooo
(_x_) Kat.
Now I get it....lol
Now I get it....lol
Lisa, LMAO
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LOL (_X_)
Now, don't be a (!)
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Shaking my (_zzz_)!
Sharon, not like my opinion is worth anything to you or anyone else..but I have to go 150% with Lisa on this 1. You have been here longer then me and you story/plan/actions are NO DIFFERENT then 12-14 months ago. Nothing changes if nothing changes???? all the wishing,hopeing,praying in the world isn't going to change sh*t. only you can do that. good luck
Sharonn,
Please don't flush your meds if you are on oxy's. You need to taper off that medicine or suffer horribly and the withdrawals could be life threatening if you don't taper. Please talk to your Dr. if you seriously want off the oxy's.
I think that you have to accept that you are a chronic pain sufferer and will have to rely on meds in order to have a quality of life. Without the meds you will not be able to participate in life fully. IMHO, You need to see a therapist on a regular basis to discuss your feelings. This board is just not the place to do it in a way that will benefit you.
Please know that I understand what you are going thru. I really, really do and I'm praying for you and that you find the right answers.
God bless,
Sharon
Please don't flush your meds if you are on oxy's. You need to taper off that medicine or suffer horribly and the withdrawals could be life threatening if you don't taper. Please talk to your Dr. if you seriously want off the oxy's.
I think that you have to accept that you are a chronic pain sufferer and will have to rely on meds in order to have a quality of life. Without the meds you will not be able to participate in life fully. IMHO, You need to see a therapist on a regular basis to discuss your feelings. This board is just not the place to do it in a way that will benefit you.
Please know that I understand what you are going thru. I really, really do and I'm praying for you and that you find the right answers.
God bless,
Sharon
Sharon...I think you understand..I am not deluding myself here...I am terrified of oxy withdra.wal...makes vicodin withdrawal look like a walk in the park...I detoxed CT once..I was so deathly ill...my head pounded from vomiting and I was ice cold for 48 hours straight...I ended up passing out in my hallway from dehydration. I had to CT my elavil which I swear helps me to taper. My Dr. said to cut a med out before anesthesia and I chose that...Wellllll....there are withdrawal symptoms from everything. I have been nauseated for 2 days with head zaps and aches. But I cannot go back on. I don't feel depressed...but my wd's in the A.M. are worse. I will have to be resolved with a slow taper...at least I know where I stand. I know Lisa your heart is in the right place..if I thought my health could handle it I would flush them...I haven't had a really good day health wise in a long time...so that is my reason...fear of illness. Maybe if I were healthier it wouldn't be so bad.That's why the young people on this board should read and learn...the older you get the harder it becomes. But I cannot turn back the clock...So back to square 1...even if I tapered down to a low doe I would be happy......thank you for your patience and understanding with my tale of woe. BTW...Sharon..have you heard from Rus? I've dropped him a few e-mails but no response...Love, Sharonn
I also know this board is not the place and I apologize if my posts are innappropriate or worse, a trigger to anyone. It has become a comforting ritual for me..being able to log on in the morning and see some of the same names....I enjoy the cameraderie of it I suppose. But I know it's getting ridiculous now and I should shut up about it or do something..believe me..I know. I see a counselor who is clueless about addiction so I should find one who is familiar with addiction.Thanks again....S
Sharonn,
I aologize if it appeared I was taking your situation lightly. I was poking fun at Lisa the cable girl, not you.
If I knew of any helpful advise, I'd happily share it with you.
Listen to Sharon, she won't steer you wrong.
I hope you find answers and relief soon.
xxxxooooo
I aologize if it appeared I was taking your situation lightly. I was poking fun at Lisa the cable girl, not you.
If I knew of any helpful advise, I'd happily share it with you.
Listen to Sharon, she won't steer you wrong.
I hope you find answers and relief soon.
xxxxooooo
