Hey I had a quick question...my guy switched from shooting to snorting the last couple of weeks and he has not really started to go through withdrawl yet...its been over 24 hrs...and he hasnt done anything hes been home with me and stuff all day...he has been drinking tho...just wondering if the withdrawl from heroin when you snort it is easier then when you shoot it?
There is a whole psychological ritual to the shooting up thing. I would guess that would maket it harder. As people who have been IV users know, the whole deal of getting the water ,cotton,spoon, matches, poking for a vein.,right down to the freakin smell of it cooking is a habit in itself
To be fair ,Ive never had a snorting habit so I dont know. I imagine it depends on the peroid of time he was using,how much, the strentgh of the dope., ...etc....
I would think that the withdrawal except the battle with the needle fixation is pretty much the same.
peace,
jack
To be fair ,Ive never had a snorting habit so I dont know. I imagine it depends on the peroid of time he was using,how much, the strentgh of the dope., ...etc....
I would think that the withdrawal except the battle with the needle fixation is pretty much the same.
peace,
jack
thanks jack...yea it is really weird...i mean he has the stomach cramps...and a TINY bit sweaty...had the weird dreams last night...but it has been over 36 hrs since he last used...usually by now he is puking everywhere and just a complete mess...he got up and went to WORK!!! he is calling the doc now to see if it is ok to start taking the subs because he does not want to make himself go into withdrawl by taking them...i am just so confused...the withdrawl signs are there but just not nearly as bad as they usually are...i asked him if he was using fake heroin cause this is just insane!.
Becky P, Becky P......how do you be?
Gurlie gurlie.......you should go back to school, and become a dang Doctor, Sister..........Jack's post is what I would echo, and I never had a love of the needle.......saved by the grace of a lifer who told me right out.....DO NOT DO IT AS IT'S A WHOLE NEW LOVE......plus I looked around and thought I'm already such a mess if I had to get works, and/or do the needle exchange....right there's another full time job......well I am scattered person anyway's........I just knew I'd NEVER EVER COME BACK! Knew it.
Now for the snorting part.......we had old dudes from our neighborhood like old hippies......life long addicts......well ya know for years....clean, and dope started getting pure here so they all did the snort.......BOOM dropped like flies, and these were vets of the needle, and all........also it depends on how much he was doing, and the quality of the dope.
You mentioned that one night he snorted, and was nodding, and talking bizerker, and all that had to be some good stuff......alot of people who main line think snorting or smoking is a waste of dope....I had a habit for many of years, and in detox I was just as sick as people that shot up, and some of those Oxy snorters were sicker than all of us.
EVERY KICK....Every single one is different...I had times I begged to die, and others where I just ached, and stomach stuff, and by day three I was like well what the hell? Now that was nothing........same dope, same amount.
More psychological all the way around..........like Jack so wisely knows the needle itself and the ritual is all encompassing..........people don't even NEED the heroin, but they NEED their needle.
Hope he is doing better, and YOU lady you too, and your car and all.
Gurlie gurlie.......you should go back to school, and become a dang Doctor, Sister..........Jack's post is what I would echo, and I never had a love of the needle.......saved by the grace of a lifer who told me right out.....DO NOT DO IT AS IT'S A WHOLE NEW LOVE......plus I looked around and thought I'm already such a mess if I had to get works, and/or do the needle exchange....right there's another full time job......well I am scattered person anyway's........I just knew I'd NEVER EVER COME BACK! Knew it.
Now for the snorting part.......we had old dudes from our neighborhood like old hippies......life long addicts......well ya know for years....clean, and dope started getting pure here so they all did the snort.......BOOM dropped like flies, and these were vets of the needle, and all........also it depends on how much he was doing, and the quality of the dope.
You mentioned that one night he snorted, and was nodding, and talking bizerker, and all that had to be some good stuff......alot of people who main line think snorting or smoking is a waste of dope....I had a habit for many of years, and in detox I was just as sick as people that shot up, and some of those Oxy snorters were sicker than all of us.
EVERY KICK....Every single one is different...I had times I begged to die, and others where I just ached, and stomach stuff, and by day three I was like well what the hell? Now that was nothing........same dope, same amount.
More psychological all the way around..........like Jack so wisely knows the needle itself and the ritual is all encompassing..........people don't even NEED the heroin, but they NEED their needle.
Hope he is doing better, and YOU lady you too, and your car and all.
Man! When Jack mentioned that about smelling the dope cooking up in the spoon...well, I swear! I could smell it! Just like it was right in front of me! (after 2 years!) That's the power of the ritual! I got a little queasy feeling. As for your question...I don't think withdrawal is any different if you snort it. It's the amount and quality of the dope, not the delivery. That's been my experience anyway. I just think there are more mind games and wierd cravings with a needle. I used to stare at people,s veins in rehab. There was this one guy that was really buff and he wore muscle shirts all the time. Everybody thought I wanted his body. I did but not for the reasons they thought. I just wanted to use his veins for a few minutes!!! I stalked his arteries!!! PEACE, Shirley
