Do you believe there is such a thing as DOC?
Personally, I do not.
For me,personally,i could care less about booze,pot,benzos,anything else out there,never had aproblem with them,never cared to have them,can live the rest of my life without any of it(and i have and i will)but the pain pills were somethign else for me,they were all i cared about,my life revolved around them.PERIOD!
Nothing else ever made me feel that way,and to this day,i haqvent had a drink(alcoholic)in almost 3 years,which is maybe the only other drug i can say i would even consider using,but i have no desire for it what so ever.
The way this poll is written isa little hard to understand though.
I guess my answer is,yes,i do believe i have a DOC,no doubt.
Do i feel i can never have a drink again ever in my life,no,but do i want a drink,no.There you have it,tell me that wasnt confusing,lol~KIM
Nothing else ever made me feel that way,and to this day,i haqvent had a drink(alcoholic)in almost 3 years,which is maybe the only other drug i can say i would even consider using,but i have no desire for it what so ever.
The way this poll is written isa little hard to understand though.
I guess my answer is,yes,i do believe i have a DOC,no doubt.
Do i feel i can never have a drink again ever in my life,no,but do i want a drink,no.There you have it,tell me that wasnt confusing,lol~KIM
i believe one can have a doc and i believe that sobriety has to be abstinence from all drugs.
so i vote yes
so i vote no
my doc is pot and opiates, never did i ever suffer so bad until i accidentally found out what an opiate feels like when i got a script for vicodin after getting a tooth pulled.
before i found opiates i lived to use...
after opiates i used to live...
even though i dont drink i occassionally like champagne on new years eve or maybe a drink at a wedding or a special dinner out, but NA and my sponsor say NO! to that.
they say it will change my brain chemistry back to like it was before detox, so i have abstained from that temptation.
i now am venturing out for the first time to functions where there is partying (wedding, going away party) and i have to say its been rough, everyones out on the dance floor doing the ymca and i had to sit back at the table with my pepsi!
i wanted to join them so bad but i know what i know.... then when the champagne toast came.....whew! had to put my glass upside down when the champagne server came by.
people tell me julie you CAN have fun at parties and be sober. I can?!?! how? i hope that answer is revealed to me.
my sponsor wants me to have an NA swimming party/ bbq in my back yard on my one yr anniversary which is july 10th! now there i know i will have fun cuz i wont feel "left out"
jewels
so i vote yes
so i vote no
my doc is pot and opiates, never did i ever suffer so bad until i accidentally found out what an opiate feels like when i got a script for vicodin after getting a tooth pulled.
before i found opiates i lived to use...
after opiates i used to live...
even though i dont drink i occassionally like champagne on new years eve or maybe a drink at a wedding or a special dinner out, but NA and my sponsor say NO! to that.
they say it will change my brain chemistry back to like it was before detox, so i have abstained from that temptation.
i now am venturing out for the first time to functions where there is partying (wedding, going away party) and i have to say its been rough, everyones out on the dance floor doing the ymca and i had to sit back at the table with my pepsi!
i wanted to join them so bad but i know what i know.... then when the champagne toast came.....whew! had to put my glass upside down when the champagne server came by.
people tell me julie you CAN have fun at parties and be sober. I can?!?! how? i hope that answer is revealed to me.
my sponsor wants me to have an NA swimming party/ bbq in my back yard on my one yr anniversary which is july 10th! now there i know i will have fun cuz i wont feel "left out"
jewels
Jewels quotes
LMAO.......Where were you girl, in a gay bar?
The visual alone makes me want to have a drink.
My DOC was what was in front of me.
I vote NO .Clean and sober has no ambiguity for me.....and believe me,I've researched this one very well.
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| everyones out on the dance floor doing the ymca and i had to sit back at the table with my pepsi! |
LMAO.......Where were you girl, in a gay bar?
The visual alone makes me want to have a drink.
My DOC was what was in front of me.
I vote NO .Clean and sober has no ambiguity for me.....and believe me,I've researched this one very well.
The problem is not with the drugs, the problem is with me. I can addict to anything -- chocolate, computer games, cigarettes, dieting, shopping, yoga, eBay. If I had whatever it takes to practice moderation, I would never have been an addict in the first place.
I'll have to run that one by Dr. M. "What does it take to practice moderation?"
I'll have to run that one by Dr. M. "What does it take to practice moderation?"
posted by soccermom1
I can see someone stole the Elim Garak mantra.....
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The problem is not with the drugs, the problem is with me. I can addict to anything -- chocolate, computer games, cigarettes, dieting, shopping, yoga, eBay. If I had whatever it takes to practice moderation, I would never have been an addict in the first place. |
I can see someone stole the Elim Garak mantra.....
Gina
Is he running a two for one special?
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| I'll have to run that one by Dr. M. "What does it take to practice moderation?" |
Is he running a two for one special?
Interesting,
Opiates...definitely my doc. Nicotine, yep.. Alcohol, take it or leave it...never struggled with it and doubt I ever will. Pot, take it or leave it, prefer to leave it, yuck...Benzos, only used when I was withdrawing. No desire to indulge in any of the aforementioned, and the only one I know I ever had a huge problem with is opiates. We are all the same in many ways, but also different. My answer for me and only me would be "yes". I am hardly unique, but we all have our differences...what a bore this world would be otherwise eh?
Jan
Opiates...definitely my doc. Nicotine, yep.. Alcohol, take it or leave it...never struggled with it and doubt I ever will. Pot, take it or leave it, prefer to leave it, yuck...Benzos, only used when I was withdrawing. No desire to indulge in any of the aforementioned, and the only one I know I ever had a huge problem with is opiates. We are all the same in many ways, but also different. My answer for me and only me would be "yes". I am hardly unique, but we all have our differences...what a bore this world would be otherwise eh?
Jan
I wrote this on the Goos thread:
And by the way,i never said yes or no directly to this poll,i guess my answer is YES,for me,there is such a thing as DOC.~KIM
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| Tim...Didnt you know,the YMCA song is a prerequisite to ALL parties these days,just like the chicken dance,lol |
And by the way,i never said yes or no directly to this poll,i guess my answer is YES,for me,there is such a thing as DOC.~KIM
Tim, Here's Dr. M's reply to my emailed question:
"Right off, I don't know the answer, but I assure you I'll be thinking of it. Hope you do as well
My best,
MM"
He never gives me a straight answer.
Elim, I'll have to start reading your posts.
Have a good day, boys,
"Right off, I don't know the answer, but I assure you I'll be thinking of it. Hope you do as well
My best,
MM"
He never gives me a straight answer.
Elim, I'll have to start reading your posts.
Have a good day, boys,
Gina,are you calling Elim a boy?
Do you know that for sure?
Please tell,becasue ive been trying to find out for a long time whether hes male or female,i believe hes male,but he refuses to come out with it!
So any inside info would be appreciated,lol~KIM
Do you know that for sure?
Please tell,becasue ive been trying to find out for a long time whether hes male or female,i believe hes male,but he refuses to come out with it!
So any inside info would be appreciated,lol~KIM
Kim,
This is all I know.
"Elim Garak is a character in the fictional Star Trek universe, played by Andrew Robinson. He was technically classified as a recurring character, but many fans consider him to be a regular given his importance to the story arc and his presence in many episodes."
~Wikipedia
If my screenname were "Soccerdad" I would expect people to address me using male nouns and pronouns.
How are you today?
Love,
Gina
This is all I know.
"Elim Garak is a character in the fictional Star Trek universe, played by Andrew Robinson. He was technically classified as a recurring character, but many fans consider him to be a regular given his importance to the story arc and his presence in many episodes."
~Wikipedia
If my screenname were "Soccerdad" I would expect people to address me using male nouns and pronouns.
How are you today?
Love,
Gina
soccermom1
Please see my post in the The Most Dangerous Drugs topic, to see what Elim Garak's most dangerous drug is. Three guesses and the first two don't count........
What? You do not read my most stupendous and wonderful posts? You mean the spotlight is not necessarily on me? Whew....I am actually glad in the sense that sometimes I write these almost as a journal to myself, not for attention. I use it as a way of thinking "What would I do in that situation?" or "That is a good idea! (What someone posted)." I want to bring that topic up in an AA meeting (to apply the Steps as it pertains to the topic, to see how it helps me.
Please see my post in the The Most Dangerous Drugs topic, to see what Elim Garak's most dangerous drug is. Three guesses and the first two don't count........
What? You do not read my most stupendous and wonderful posts? You mean the spotlight is not necessarily on me? Whew....I am actually glad in the sense that sometimes I write these almost as a journal to myself, not for attention. I use it as a way of thinking "What would I do in that situation?" or "That is a good idea! (What someone posted)." I want to bring that topic up in an AA meeting (to apply the Steps as it pertains to the topic, to see how it helps me.
Gina
The key to moderation, is I M A G I N A T I O N. Sheesh, I know I told you that. Its elementary. LOL
Michelle
The key to moderation, is I M A G I N A T I O N. Sheesh, I know I told you that. Its elementary. LOL
Michelle
Michelle, No, what you said was that M O D E R A T I O N was the key to sensible computer gaming, lol, which I still haven't figured out so I'm on a self-imposed gaming ban.
Explain please how I M A G I N A T I O N will help me moderate my behavior?
Love,
Gina
Its simple Gina. You just imagine your moderating. See how simple that is. LOL
Yes...absolutely.
I have experimented with alot of drugs. Its a generational thing. Cocaine was huge in the 80's and early 90's. Never got addicted to anything. Partied my @ss off. Then went about my life....seemingly plowing through.
It never even crossed my mind that I was addicted...until the first time I went into an unplanned w/d. I knew that I was taking way to many pills...but never in my wildest dreams did I think I was an addict.
That first w/d a light bulb went on...and when I took more pills and found relief....I knew in my gut that I was hooped. From there I went on for about 3 years....struggling.
So yes...I definitely have a DOC
I have experimented with alot of drugs. Its a generational thing. Cocaine was huge in the 80's and early 90's. Never got addicted to anything. Partied my @ss off. Then went about my life....seemingly plowing through.
It never even crossed my mind that I was addicted...until the first time I went into an unplanned w/d. I knew that I was taking way to many pills...but never in my wildest dreams did I think I was an addict.
That first w/d a light bulb went on...and when I took more pills and found relief....I knew in my gut that I was hooped. From there I went on for about 3 years....struggling.
So yes...I definitely have a DOC
Kind of an interesting topic. Not sure that I understood it at first, and maybe I still have it wrong, but here goes.
Do people have a drug of choice?? SURE. 100%. Are you addicted to your drug of choice? maybe, probably, etc.....
But I don't think you have to have a DOC or be dependent on your DOC to be an addict.
I'm with Gina. I can be addicted to ANYTHING, and have been over the corse of my 36 years. From the toys I played with to the things I 'collected' to alcohol and finaly Norco. The Norco just came with the added bonus of true physical addiction......
I feel that a TRUE ADDICT has to abstain 100% from drug use to be and stay clean. I now know that I have to. I am not able to use anything in moderation, and opening the door to a mind altering substance will just bring me down to the floor.
I also feel that I have encountered some people here and in NA that I would not be certain are addicts. I do believe that they had a problem with a certain substance and it scared them enough to take action, and thats OK! But they just don't "fit" the rest of the mold for addictive behavior.
Aawww heck...... This isn't making any sense!!!!
For me there is no middle ground. I need abstinence to keep clean.
peaceout
dtroitj
Do people have a drug of choice?? SURE. 100%. Are you addicted to your drug of choice? maybe, probably, etc.....
But I don't think you have to have a DOC or be dependent on your DOC to be an addict.
I'm with Gina. I can be addicted to ANYTHING, and have been over the corse of my 36 years. From the toys I played with to the things I 'collected' to alcohol and finaly Norco. The Norco just came with the added bonus of true physical addiction......
I feel that a TRUE ADDICT has to abstain 100% from drug use to be and stay clean. I now know that I have to. I am not able to use anything in moderation, and opening the door to a mind altering substance will just bring me down to the floor.
I also feel that I have encountered some people here and in NA that I would not be certain are addicts. I do believe that they had a problem with a certain substance and it scared them enough to take action, and thats OK! But they just don't "fit" the rest of the mold for addictive behavior.
Aawww heck...... This isn't making any sense!!!!
For me there is no middle ground. I need abstinence to keep clean.
peaceout
dtroitj
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1.OXYCONTIN-BY FAR. IF IT DIDNT HAVE SIDE EFFECTS I WOULD STILL DO IT
2.METHADONE
3.XANAX/KLONOPIN
I COULD GO ON AND ON! THANK GOD I DONT HAVE TO USE TO LIVE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRIEN
1.OXYCONTIN-BY FAR. IF IT DIDNT HAVE SIDE EFFECTS I WOULD STILL DO IT
2.METHADONE
3.XANAX/KLONOPIN
I COULD GO ON AND ON! THANK GOD I DONT HAVE TO USE TO LIVE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRIEN
