i have bad headaches- migrianes, tension type and bad sinus headaches also. i've been taking fioricet for the past year and now am about up to 5 pills a day- i really want to quit, i don't sleep as well when i'm taking them and they aren't helping my headaches anymore. does anyone know- if i quit cold turkey could something bad happen? i started out just taking 3, then 4- etc.. you all know the story. if anyone has any information that would be great. i was thinking of taking a very low dose xanax to help get me off of the fioricet. for some reason, i've never had any problems with benzo's as far as additions- i don't like taking them cuz they make me tired so i don't think i'd have a prolblem getting additicted to them. anyway, if anyone has any info, please let me know.
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Hello, and welcome to the board, i saw your post and wanted to say, i do not really know about that medcine or anything but i know this much it does have Codine in it and my suggestion is to wean down, try not to take any untill you are dying , then take one and do that untill your off, or ask your doctor to help you, are you a addict? because theres a diffrence between a person who is physcially dependant and an addict, trully!! so i am here if you need anything and the best of luck and i will prey for you! please take care and good luck to you on your journey my friend!!! i am always here if you need me....mitzy...
You should be fine getting off Fioricet, especially if you are only taking 4-5 a day. I'm not sure it's even a narcotic, but if it is, it's a very mild one. I used to take it and I know it's habit forming, so if you quit cold turkey and you start feeling achy or like you have the flu, then just start tapering down...
Your withdrawals will probably be very mild, like a virus or something like that.... unless you are not being honest about the quantity you take or you have an underlying medical condition. It won't be horrible, so don't be scared. Just plan on telling everyone you're sick and take 2 days to pamper yourself!
Your withdrawals will probably be very mild, like a virus or something like that.... unless you are not being honest about the quantity you take or you have an underlying medical condition. It won't be horrible, so don't be scared. Just plan on telling everyone you're sick and take 2 days to pamper yourself!
dear icepak -
i'm not a doctor so i try to stay out of questions regarding detox. about all i can do is suggest to people to get professional help because in my experience, physical safety is of the utmost importance.
however, when i saw your post i wanted to share with you that my last relapse was on fiorinol...that was the plain fiorinol, not the one that has codeine in it. plain fiorinol has a long acting barbiturate in it - butalbital. this drug is a "monster" to come off of and one that should not be taken lightly. you can do a google search with the words "barbiturate addiction withdrawal" and see what you come up with. i cannot stress the importance of your physical safety when detoxing from this drug.
like you, i started off using 3 - 4 a day. like any addict whose disease of addiction goes untreated, my usage of amounts and frequency progressed. the last time i used fiorinol i took 80 pills within a 24 hour period. i was in a blackout and forgot when i last used...i was chasing a high. there was no medical explanation as to why i lived, although i did reside in a coma for 4 days. i like to think God had something else still planned for me on this plane.
i wish you much encouragement as you step in the light of recovery. if you desire help in locating an addictionologist (a physician, usually a psychiatrist, with a sub-specialty in addiction medicine) just let us know. we will do everything we can online to help you locate one.
welcome to this forum, my friend - it doesn't sound like a coincidence that you found us.
namaste'
sammy
i'm not a doctor so i try to stay out of questions regarding detox. about all i can do is suggest to people to get professional help because in my experience, physical safety is of the utmost importance.
however, when i saw your post i wanted to share with you that my last relapse was on fiorinol...that was the plain fiorinol, not the one that has codeine in it. plain fiorinol has a long acting barbiturate in it - butalbital. this drug is a "monster" to come off of and one that should not be taken lightly. you can do a google search with the words "barbiturate addiction withdrawal" and see what you come up with. i cannot stress the importance of your physical safety when detoxing from this drug.
like you, i started off using 3 - 4 a day. like any addict whose disease of addiction goes untreated, my usage of amounts and frequency progressed. the last time i used fiorinol i took 80 pills within a 24 hour period. i was in a blackout and forgot when i last used...i was chasing a high. there was no medical explanation as to why i lived, although i did reside in a coma for 4 days. i like to think God had something else still planned for me on this plane.
i wish you much encouragement as you step in the light of recovery. if you desire help in locating an addictionologist (a physician, usually a psychiatrist, with a sub-specialty in addiction medicine) just let us know. we will do everything we can online to help you locate one.
welcome to this forum, my friend - it doesn't sound like a coincidence that you found us.
namaste'
sammy
Dsam, I stand to be corrected..... I have been prescribed Fioricet numerous times over the last 12 years and have never so much as gotten a buzz from it (maybe because I always took the prescribed amount?). In fact, when I would go to my doctor to try and get hydrocodone for tension headaches and/or migraines (years before I had an addiction), he would always prescribe Fioricet instead. I knew it could be habit forming, but I have never known anyone addicted to it and was never left chasing a high when I came down from it.....
So thank you for speaking up before someone got themselves into trouble with this... And you learn something new every day, right? How do you think I got to be so smart?? LOL
So thank you for speaking up before someone got themselves into trouble with this... And you learn something new every day, right? How do you think I got to be so smart?? LOL
hey danielle - i understand what you are saying and appreciate your reply.
heck - part of my story is that i would abuse chicken lips or cherry pits if for one moment i thought it would take me out of me! *wink, wink*
this drug fiorinol is highly addictive and i believe is still a class IV. not only did the butalbital take its' toil on me physically, the aspirin in fiorinol, tylenol in fioricet, just about wiped out my blood indices. my mean corpuscular volume went sky high from the acetaminophen overdose. this meant the blood cells in my bone marrow had gone awry and my physician was baffled. i didn't bother to mention all the fiorinol/cet i was taking and he was considering sending me to a hematologist for a work up. even at that, it didn't matter to me whether it was fiorinol or fioricet - whatever i could get my greedy little hands on would do - because you see, while in active addiction i lived to use and used to live. a never ending abyss of insanity that we drown in if not treated.
wheweeeeeee - i'm grateful there is a solution.
namaste' my friend -
sammy
heck - part of my story is that i would abuse chicken lips or cherry pits if for one moment i thought it would take me out of me! *wink, wink*
this drug fiorinol is highly addictive and i believe is still a class IV. not only did the butalbital take its' toil on me physically, the aspirin in fiorinol, tylenol in fioricet, just about wiped out my blood indices. my mean corpuscular volume went sky high from the acetaminophen overdose. this meant the blood cells in my bone marrow had gone awry and my physician was baffled. i didn't bother to mention all the fiorinol/cet i was taking and he was considering sending me to a hematologist for a work up. even at that, it didn't matter to me whether it was fiorinol or fioricet - whatever i could get my greedy little hands on would do - because you see, while in active addiction i lived to use and used to live. a never ending abyss of insanity that we drown in if not treated.
wheweeeeeee - i'm grateful there is a solution.
namaste' my friend -
sammy
Sammy, your story reminds me of a checkup I had with my Doctor when he discovered my liver enzyme count was high and was concerned, of course if I told him I was taking 10 percs and drinking he might not have been so baffled by the tests that kept coming back negative,
JohnDee
JohnDee
As Im sure someone has mentioned Fiorinol/cet all of them have a barbituate called butalbital in it at 50 mgs each which would mean 250mgs a day at 5 pills . I used to take up to 10 plus a day and barbs are not something to mess with with cold turket. An old patient of mine who did time in the late sixteys said when they processed him they asked if they were addicted to barbs and they treated them for it. The didnt care about smack or anything else. I would recomend a taper. A lot of the headaches ,more than you think are rebound headaches from the barb and caffiene thats in them . thas wherethe boost comes from the caffiene. But Barbituates even tho 5 a day might not seem like much can in higher doses for some and lower for others cause siezers( wrong sprlling. When I used to just stop the 10 a day because I was out I would be incapacitated with the worst headache on the planet for a day or 2 water bottle on head it was unbearable. but at 5 If you can taper once down to 2 a day stay on for 3 days or so then 1 for couple days then stop. Just my opinion from experience best of luck Ray
Brand Name(s): Axotal, B-A-C, Butalbital Compound, Fiorgen PF, Fiorinal, Fiortal, Fortabs, Isollyl Improved, Lanorinal, Marnal
Generic Name Aspirin, Butalbital, and Caffeine
What are aspirin-butalbital-caffeine tablets or capsules?
ASPIRN-BUTALBITAL-CAFFEINE (Fiorinal and others) is a combination product used to treat certain types of headaches and migraines as well as mild to moderate pain. Federal law prohibits the transfer of this medicine to any person other than the patient for whom it was prescribed. Do not share this medicine with any one else. Generic aspirin-butalbital-caffeine tablets and capsules are available.
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FYI....this product does not contain codeine, have no idea what medication Mitzy was thinking about.
Generic Name Aspirin, Butalbital, and Caffeine
What are aspirin-butalbital-caffeine tablets or capsules?
ASPIRN-BUTALBITAL-CAFFEINE (Fiorinal and others) is a combination product used to treat certain types of headaches and migraines as well as mild to moderate pain. Federal law prohibits the transfer of this medicine to any person other than the patient for whom it was prescribed. Do not share this medicine with any one else. Generic aspirin-butalbital-caffeine tablets and capsules are available.
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FYI....this product does not contain codeine, have no idea what medication Mitzy was thinking about.
Sharon, you just had to say something rude, now didnt ya! OMG, some people.
p.s.btw there are two meds one is called Fiorinol and Ferocet, and one has codine and the other has caffine so I was just confused i guess.....
p.s.btw there are two meds one is called Fiorinol and Ferocet, and one has codine and the other has caffine so I was just confused i guess.....
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Im not getting involved in any arguments but just wanted to let you guys know that both fiorinol and fioicet can be perscribed with codien in the same capsule and the results are much better but then you have not only the barbituate but the narcotic to get off from Best Ray
Ramon that is Fiornal # 3, not what was mentioned in the first post.
john dee - isn't it the truth the stuff we withheld about our addiction?
when i think of the lengths i went to, to sustain my disease...geeesh! :(
i guess it was so baffling to our doctors because the disease of addiction is not only cunning and powerful - it's baffling!
thanks for recognizing the similarities and posting to me. it helps me when i realize that i am not alone.
namaste'
sammy
when i think of the lengths i went to, to sustain my disease...geeesh! :(
i guess it was so baffling to our doctors because the disease of addiction is not only cunning and powerful - it's baffling!
thanks for recognizing the similarities and posting to me. it helps me when i realize that i am not alone.
namaste'
sammy
mitzy - i get confused a lot on this board too and i can understand when you said you didn't know a lot about this medicine. yes - there is a fiorinol with codeine and then there's a plain fiorinol (one that does not contain codeine but the other ingredients).
it's good to know that we are human, isn't it?
sounds like you had a great christmas. i wish you christmas every day of the year.
namaste'
sammy
it's good to know that we are human, isn't it?
sounds like you had a great christmas. i wish you christmas every day of the year.
namaste'
sammy
Confused people shouldn't give out advice or straddle fences. Both hurt.
ahhhh confusion - great topic sharon!
the world that we look out on and so often see turned upside down that world is within us. that person who we dont like running into, that strained relationship in any unwanted moment, is not outside of us. the reason that we cant get along with other people has nothing to do with the other people. sure, theyre rude. sure, theyre cruel, spiritually asleep, aggressive, all those things but so are we. our feelings about the world we see, with all of its confusing colors and schemes, are all reflections of our own internal life. we meet and see only ourselves wherever we go. nothing else. and thats such an important lesson.
i pray each night not to make the world over into my own image and likeness and let it be what it is truly designed to be: a place for growth and healing for my soul. i seize the day and embrace the gifts that are offered me, in whatever disguise, for they all express the yearning for my soul to grow.
thank you sharon for the lessons you have taught me today in these messages of yours. i doubt you have any idea how profoundly your words have impacted me. for in you, i see me.
i must always remember that charity and compassion, when interacting with others, are ennate and a reflection of who i am; nevertheless my ego would have me think differently. my task must be to free myself from this prison by widening my circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole [of] nature in its beauty.
good night, my friend - sweet dreams.
sammy
the world that we look out on and so often see turned upside down that world is within us. that person who we dont like running into, that strained relationship in any unwanted moment, is not outside of us. the reason that we cant get along with other people has nothing to do with the other people. sure, theyre rude. sure, theyre cruel, spiritually asleep, aggressive, all those things but so are we. our feelings about the world we see, with all of its confusing colors and schemes, are all reflections of our own internal life. we meet and see only ourselves wherever we go. nothing else. and thats such an important lesson.
i pray each night not to make the world over into my own image and likeness and let it be what it is truly designed to be: a place for growth and healing for my soul. i seize the day and embrace the gifts that are offered me, in whatever disguise, for they all express the yearning for my soul to grow.
thank you sharon for the lessons you have taught me today in these messages of yours. i doubt you have any idea how profoundly your words have impacted me. for in you, i see me.
i must always remember that charity and compassion, when interacting with others, are ennate and a reflection of who i am; nevertheless my ego would have me think differently. my task must be to free myself from this prison by widening my circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole [of] nature in its beauty.
good night, my friend - sweet dreams.
sammy
Sammy:
Thank you.
Rachel
Thank you.
Rachel
Sharon said
"Confused people shouldn't give out advice or straddle fences. Both hurt. "
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Confused people also should be offered support or the correct information to help them become not confused.There is not one person on this earth that knows everything or doesn't at some point become confused about something.
has anyone ever heard my theory on using "I" sentences.In other words what i TRY to do is write my posts in my own exp using "I" instead of you.
an example being.....
"I find when "I" am confused about something i try not to reply or i search for the correct information"
This is a great tool because it keeps people from going on the defense and the point you are trying to make helps them instead of just being words that cause defensive reactions.I try really hard to do this and catch myself slipping sometimes.If i am going to take the time to post some ESH or information i would rather it be heard in a positive way then a negative way.Try it out and see what kind of results you get from it.
love,
ladybug
"Confused people shouldn't give out advice or straddle fences. Both hurt. "
____________________________________________________________
Confused people also should be offered support or the correct information to help them become not confused.There is not one person on this earth that knows everything or doesn't at some point become confused about something.
has anyone ever heard my theory on using "I" sentences.In other words what i TRY to do is write my posts in my own exp using "I" instead of you.
an example being.....
"I find when "I" am confused about something i try not to reply or i search for the correct information"
This is a great tool because it keeps people from going on the defense and the point you are trying to make helps them instead of just being words that cause defensive reactions.I try really hard to do this and catch myself slipping sometimes.If i am going to take the time to post some ESH or information i would rather it be heard in a positive way then a negative way.Try it out and see what kind of results you get from it.
love,
ladybug
Thanks friends, Sammy, Ladybug, that meant alot to me and i can say whatever i want when ever! this is a free country, feedom of speech and i can give out advise..do you forget what proffesion i am in?? so what if i got the two mixed up, some people... I also find it funny that you respond in a negative manor to this post , but the post that was dirrected to you to call a truce, you did not even respond....
take care all...........your friend, mitzy.......
take care all...........your friend, mitzy.......
