I need information on this new drug that has hit the streets Apparently my son is now shooting up with this. Which almost cause him to loose his arm. Nothing has change he has disappeared again on a binge. Does anyone know about this stuff. How dangerous is it
i have been reading up about it and it is scaring the living daylights out of me. My biggest fear his he will kill someone. It's bad enough that he is on self destruct but to take someone else's life is unthinkable.
If anyone has any feedback?
Mom
Hi Helplessmom
"Flakka" is another synthetic drug like "bath salts" that was all the rage a couple of years ago - there is not alot known about it's long term affects because it is relatively new - it is very cheap about $5 in some states- it is imported from china mainly where it is made, like ecstasy in backstreet lab's - it looks like a white crystal it can be ground down - it is snorted or injected or eaten - it has a similair effect to amphetamines or ecstasy - it can cause body tempature to rise to dangerous levels, it also causes major paranoia and depression when coming down off it - some claims have been made that it causes some people to become violent but again there hasnt been enough cases of it's uses to definitively know what effect it has on people - i hope this is of some use - it is also called "Gravel" in some places - all the best
"Flakka" is another synthetic drug like "bath salts" that was all the rage a couple of years ago - there is not alot known about it's long term affects because it is relatively new - it is very cheap about $5 in some states- it is imported from china mainly where it is made, like ecstasy in backstreet lab's - it looks like a white crystal it can be ground down - it is snorted or injected or eaten - it has a similair effect to amphetamines or ecstasy - it can cause body tempature to rise to dangerous levels, it also causes major paranoia and depression when coming down off it - some claims have been made that it causes some people to become violent but again there hasnt been enough cases of it's uses to definitively know what effect it has on people - i hope this is of some use - it is also called "Gravel" in some places - all the best
Thank you Travelin man,
My son is now three days missing. We have been trying to find him, his g/f just now told us he took off with this guy who I know they were shooting up with this Flakka together.
All I know he said to one of his dear friends that it made him crazy, but they added other stuff to it.
His phone keeps going to voice mail even to his dear friends so not feeling real positive on this latest binge. Especially his arm is still open and bandage up. He already missed two nurses appointment to have it clean.
I just don't know what to do.. worry or just let him go and hope one day he finds his way to getting help.
He is feeling lost right now I had to turn my back on him and so did his family we tried to get him understand that he is not a loser and useless. He has a serious drug problem and its time to address it. He is in denial of course keeps saying I am sober.
I have a support group and another mother who has lost two sons to heroin. But it hurts so bad and I have to keep a brave face so others won't see my pain.
I can't imagine the pain he must be feeling. Thinking I don't care but he has to make that choice to get cleaned and I am afraid really afraid this time he won't make it back.
x
My son is now three days missing. We have been trying to find him, his g/f just now told us he took off with this guy who I know they were shooting up with this Flakka together.
All I know he said to one of his dear friends that it made him crazy, but they added other stuff to it.
His phone keeps going to voice mail even to his dear friends so not feeling real positive on this latest binge. Especially his arm is still open and bandage up. He already missed two nurses appointment to have it clean.
I just don't know what to do.. worry or just let him go and hope one day he finds his way to getting help.
He is feeling lost right now I had to turn my back on him and so did his family we tried to get him understand that he is not a loser and useless. He has a serious drug problem and its time to address it. He is in denial of course keeps saying I am sober.
I have a support group and another mother who has lost two sons to heroin. But it hurts so bad and I have to keep a brave face so others won't see my pain.
I can't imagine the pain he must be feeling. Thinking I don't care but he has to make that choice to get cleaned and I am afraid really afraid this time he won't make it back.
x
Dear Helpless Mother,
I understand the pain you are going through. I am glad you found a support group. I hope that you will continue with this group, as I believe it is the best way to learn a better way of living.
There is nothing you can do, in terms of helping an addict. They have to want recovery. If/when they truly want it, there are options for them. The best thing you can do for him is to take care of yourself.
I wish I had an easier answer, but that is the reality with addiction. It is a monster and requires a different approach for family members. Good luck.
I understand the pain you are going through. I am glad you found a support group. I hope that you will continue with this group, as I believe it is the best way to learn a better way of living.
There is nothing you can do, in terms of helping an addict. They have to want recovery. If/when they truly want it, there are options for them. The best thing you can do for him is to take care of yourself.
I wish I had an easier answer, but that is the reality with addiction. It is a monster and requires a different approach for family members. Good luck.
Hi Helpless mom, sorry your having such a hard time - i dont know if it makes it any easier, but he (your son)wont be thinking that you dont care, he will be feeling guilty, sometimes when not completely high - then he will get high and convince himself that he is not hurting anyone but himself and why wont people leave him alone to get on with it. that's how it was for me - Then will come the , no body cares bit, when the drugs run out - feeling sorry for himself - the whole world is against me- if only "this happned" if only "that happned" everything will be fine - denial, delusions, unrealistic expectations of other people, self pity, then guilt (maybe) all part of the round about of addiction, - then high again and F... the world - he wont want to dwell on the fact that his drug use is affecting you, way too much guilt involved - he wont want to consider anyones feelings but his own - in addiction, it is all about me and the drugs -
SO PLEASE do not feel guilty, you have done the right thing - enabling him wont help him any - you are not responsible for his life choices - that's down to him and his addiction and what choices he makes - the help is there, he has to reach out and take it - HE MUST ADMIT TO HIMSELF - HE HAS A PROBLEM - until then nothing changes, his choice and the consequences are his to deal with - YOU NEED TO LOOK AFTER YOU - take care, you are not alone- keep reaching out -
SO PLEASE do not feel guilty, you have done the right thing - enabling him wont help him any - you are not responsible for his life choices - that's down to him and his addiction and what choices he makes - the help is there, he has to reach out and take it - HE MUST ADMIT TO HIMSELF - HE HAS A PROBLEM - until then nothing changes, his choice and the consequences are his to deal with - YOU NEED TO LOOK AFTER YOU - take care, you are not alone- keep reaching out -
travelin man
You have help in so many ways. I am slowly getting my backbone and each day one second at a time I am learning to deal with my problem of being an enabler. My husband has been great if I slip into the consuming pattern of speaking I should of done this or done that then he my husband very kindly asked me to take a look at what I am doing and start focus on me and not my son.
As the days go by I see how much my son really control the situation with me and made me think I could save him in reality it was his way of getting what he wanted because he I love him.
Thank you so very much. We need more guys like you to show us moms there is hope if the addict wants it. For me I don't think my son wants to, its been so many years and he is in denial, but I will keep praying.
You have help in so many ways. I am slowly getting my backbone and each day one second at a time I am learning to deal with my problem of being an enabler. My husband has been great if I slip into the consuming pattern of speaking I should of done this or done that then he my husband very kindly asked me to take a look at what I am doing and start focus on me and not my son.
As the days go by I see how much my son really control the situation with me and made me think I could save him in reality it was his way of getting what he wanted because he I love him.
Thank you so very much. We need more guys like you to show us moms there is hope if the addict wants it. For me I don't think my son wants to, its been so many years and he is in denial, but I will keep praying.
Thank You Traveling Man. My son is also an addict, I have never had it explained quite like that. Helpless Mom, I pray your son turns up soon. I understand your feelings completely. I'm sending Hugs to you both! I sit silently and read these post everyday and you all bring me Great Piece and Understanding that I am not alone.
Helplessmother I'm sorry for what u have to go through right now. I'm 35 and had always heard many times from people telling me "you don't know love until you love your child" I never knew the extremity of how strong and powerful a mother's love is. Until I had my first child in April of this year. Now I know you must be consumed with many different emotions. And I'm sorry. I don't have and words worth saying . Only ill keep you in my prayers, I promise. And maybe just try to think "it only gets worse before it gets better.
Travelin Man I'm a heroin addict for the past 5years and what you said, is exactly true about what goes on in our heads. I have never thought of it like that before but you are exactly right.. if you don't mind , maybe i can give you my email address so we can better talk. Or instead ill just make a new post in the heroin board and if possible you could reply. I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
Travelin Man I'm a heroin addict for the past 5years and what you said, is exactly true about what goes on in our heads. I have never thought of it like that before but you are exactly right.. if you don't mind , maybe i can give you my email address so we can better talk. Or instead ill just make a new post in the heroin board and if possible you could reply. I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
