For Jack - anyone else on methadone who has a reasonable good life on it.
I posted this on the families board but I guess it's hard for anyone to feel the fear that my man has if you haven't dragged yourself up on the meth and you're worried that you could end up back down the smack road.
Here is where he's at
He's on methadone iv amps because the syrup reacted with his other meds there is something in his other medicines - which are opiates - which takes away the effectiveness of the methadone syrup so he is on iv amps and he is only one of two addicts in the whole city who they prescribe amps to. They don't want to prescribe amps because it's injecting which is more dangerous than the syrup and they are very very sellable people want amps they hit the spot instantly like the gear but without the risks.
At the clinic they've told us that you can't reduce down on amps past 45g because it's concentrated. To go into a detox he has to get down to 30g which means coming off the amps and going onto the syrup then reducing down to 30g. The last time he was on syrup his Heroin use was through the roof he begged for the amps and had to go through hoops to get it, on the amps he has a life - work - almost normal - but of course he collects he injects - but everything else is okay - social life - family life etc
He has to come off the amps to get totally clean, he's scared because if he comes off the amps and fails he'll never get them prescribed again. He's scared that if he fails and ends up on the syrup that he'll go back heavily into the gear and his life will unravel. He's doing the 'is it better to stay like this for the rest of my life routine' versus the 'i can't do this forever' thoughts. To make it worse he's had 2 siezures in 2 weeks broken his teeth a bridge and swallowed 2 teeth (crowns) always he has siezures when he's worrying so that's not great it's a sign that he's scared.
It's taken months for him to source a medical detox that will take him because of the seizures now he has to be 100% sure he'll do it or it'll be a huge backwards step - I have faith, he has the conviction but having failed before no confidence.
Any thoughts
k
I had been on methadone i did detox. That being said what's the hurry?. If he's stable on methadone"" i say, let it be."""" Just my thoughts he is right to be scared of getting back into gear. When i detoxed the craving to do H kicked in so hard i cried on the floor for days wanting to use. I did not have the option to stay on or i would have. I was in a situation where i had no money to dose no car to get to the clinic. I started my detox i was at 130mg when I got pregnant i was down to 30 i stoped going against ALL medical advice. It was terrible.
If he is living a reasonible life on methadone don't rush anything. It's not going to benifit ANYONE if he gets unstable gets that urge is back into doing H.
I do often wish i still was in the m-done clinic. I felt better able to manage my self on it. BUT the flip side is it is a DRUG it's not dirty "don't know what your getting" H. If it aint broke don't fix it is my motto. If he does not HAVE TO detox why risk it?.
If he is living a reasonible life on methadone don't rush anything. It's not going to benifit ANYONE if he gets unstable gets that urge is back into doing H.
I do often wish i still was in the m-done clinic. I felt better able to manage my self on it. BUT the flip side is it is a DRUG it's not dirty "don't know what your getting" H. If it aint broke don't fix it is my motto. If he does not HAVE TO detox why risk it?.
I dont think we have these amps here in the states. In the whole wide world of medicine there is nothing else available ??
I also say let it be. Im not familiar with the sub thing ,maybe someone can help ya with that option
I also say let it be. Im not familiar with the sub thing ,maybe someone can help ya with that option
I hear what you are saying about leaving it as it is but firstly because it's iv he has to collect 9am every day except Sunday no take homes so it's a big chain around his neck and stuffs him for holidays or even weekends away as they open Saturday's also it means juggling work which isn't easy.
Secondly because it's iv there's still all the usual risks that come with anything iv and just like longtime diabetes injecters the long term prospect isn't great.
Most importantly I've done loads of research into methadone and it was never intended for long term use - and the damage it does to your bones and organs is way worse than Heroin ( I mean the synthetic or pure stuff not the crap it gets cut with) which is why the cluck from the meth is worse than a gear cluck. So yes all is well on it but realisticly he isn't going to collect his pension for very long if he can't get off it.
He's got an appointment to see if there are other epilepsy meds which won't clash with the syrup but it's a bit hit and miss I don't think his GP has many epileptic junkies on his list.
have a good weekend
k
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Secondly because it's iv there's still all the usual risks that come with anything iv and just like longtime diabetes injecters the long term prospect isn't great.
Most importantly I've done loads of research into methadone and it was never intended for long term use - and the damage it does to your bones and organs is way worse than Heroin ( I mean the synthetic or pure stuff not the crap it gets cut with) which is why the cluck from the meth is worse than a gear cluck. So yes all is well on it but realisticly he isn't going to collect his pension for very long if he can't get off it.
He's got an appointment to see if there are other epilepsy meds which won't clash with the syrup but it's a bit hit and miss I don't think his GP has many epileptic junkies on his list.
have a good weekend
k
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wow-what predicament-no matter how hard you think you have it theres always someone worse off--man idont know what to say for him--i know im terrified to get off that probably why i havent been pressuring the clinic to start my detox--poor dude is all i can think of right now
