I think that I am getting into trouble with the ultramm. I take it as prescribed. I didn't intend to take it this long, or everyday for that matter. I took it for pain, as an alternative to vics. I know it wasn't the brightest idea, but it worked good for the pain, and didn't get me high.
I honestly know that as an addict, it isn't the best thing for me. I minimized the consequences.
I am afraid of withdrawls....I don't know if I can do that again.
Anyone know about this stuff? I want totally off because it makes me have anxiety....
I am trying to taper, but it has been said "no addict usually can successfully taper", I am taking it out of fear of feeling any withdrawl symptoms and don't want to deal with pain.
Help! I worked sooooo damn hard to get clean, and sobriety is all I want....
Kerry
none, I just found your post regarding this. Thanks...my dr gave it to me knowing my condition, he is the original dr. But I know damn well by now, drs aren't responsible for our recovery, we are. I am just kicking myself in the a** because I don't want to start over.
Also, this drug has a half life, which means that it will take way longer for the withdrawls to be over..
Littlebeach I can write my own book on them I have yet been able to stop but so far I'm down to12 instead of 14-15 Monday I go down to 10.The times I have run short were horriable.My legs cramped my belly kept I guess you can call it spasms I am trying to go to my prescibed amount of 8.The only thing I can say is try to wean down off them....mollyjean
Im sorry I forgot to say try not to be scared your not alone with this.Belive me I know more people who cant kick this stuff.I'll be here to help if I can......mollyjean
LittleBeach,
I just wanted to say, you are so supportive to others, and have helped so many. I went off of Oxycontin (taking up to 400mg a day), down to 4 Norco a day, the withdrawals were very hard. But after a few days I felt alot better. Now here I have to go again, now it's with Percocet. I am scared too. I take them for pain also. I have heard alot re: Ultram, everyone I know has become "addicted" to it, even their prescribed amount. I have also heard seizure concerns, when taken in very high doses. MollyJean, is great support, going through the same thing. But I am going off my meds on Monday night, so if you need any support I am here, also. Although, this forum is full of support ;o). I always recommend seeing a Dr., my Pain Management Dr. can do a taper that is alot easier, I just don't want to go through all of the Dr. visits, and spend a month. I wish you the very best, and I know exactly what you mean by "scared to do this again". Take care, Best Wishes
I just wanted to say, you are so supportive to others, and have helped so many. I went off of Oxycontin (taking up to 400mg a day), down to 4 Norco a day, the withdrawals were very hard. But after a few days I felt alot better. Now here I have to go again, now it's with Percocet. I am scared too. I take them for pain also. I have heard alot re: Ultram, everyone I know has become "addicted" to it, even their prescribed amount. I have also heard seizure concerns, when taken in very high doses. MollyJean, is great support, going through the same thing. But I am going off my meds on Monday night, so if you need any support I am here, also. Although, this forum is full of support ;o). I always recommend seeing a Dr., my Pain Management Dr. can do a taper that is alot easier, I just don't want to go through all of the Dr. visits, and spend a month. I wish you the very best, and I know exactly what you mean by "scared to do this again". Take care, Best Wishes
Good morning little beach, just wanted to say hello, jazzy,,,
Hi Jazzy, and thanks best wished and molly. Molly how long have you been on them? I have been taking them for about 3 and a half months. I don't take more than 5 a day, and it is getting scared.
Best, I never would wish that hydro hell on anyone. The withdrawls were long and painful, and so was the active using. I don't ever want to be trapped to a pill bottle. And here we go again...
I think it comes down to where they say you have to be rigourously honest with yourself, which I wasn't.
Molly, what other symptoms did you have? the anxiety is a b****...
Kerry
Best, I never would wish that hydro hell on anyone. The withdrawls were long and painful, and so was the active using. I don't ever want to be trapped to a pill bottle. And here we go again...
I think it comes down to where they say you have to be rigourously honest with yourself, which I wasn't.
Molly, what other symptoms did you have? the anxiety is a b****...
Kerry
Kerry,
I just got in and saw your post. I really have no idea what you are going through...but I do know alittle about you from reading what you write in the post. I truely think that if an addict could successfully taper it would be you. I know you are scared of wd so use that and the beautiful faces of your children to give you strength. Take it one day at a time and fight tooth and nail.....
Just don't give up on knowing that you can do anything if you put your mind to it. I think you may be stronger than you are giving yourself credit for.
You take care,
Tina
BTW hope i didn't speak out of turn on this
I just got in and saw your post. I really have no idea what you are going through...but I do know alittle about you from reading what you write in the post. I truely think that if an addict could successfully taper it would be you. I know you are scared of wd so use that and the beautiful faces of your children to give you strength. Take it one day at a time and fight tooth and nail.....
Just don't give up on knowing that you can do anything if you put your mind to it. I think you may be stronger than you are giving yourself credit for.
You take care,
Tina
BTW hope i didn't speak out of turn on this
Kerr..the only thing I know about Ultram is that it is not a drug you can c/t off of. It can cause seizures. Does the doc know you want off of them? If not, time to get him involved. Even if you haven't abused them, which you haven't, you've taken them for a long period of time. Not trying to scare you, I just want you safe. You know how I feel about the whole taper thing, but there are some meds that you can't just flush and deal with it. How is your pain level without them? Can you get by with motrin? Don't do this on your own in your zeal to be completely clean... you know what you need to do, so don't beat yourself up over it. Call you doc.
Love you
Cowgirl
Love you
Cowgirl
Tina..why would you be speaking out of turn? You've been a voice of reason here. We need to hear from you.
Cowgirl
Cowgirl
our ordinary mind always tries to persuade us that we are nothing but acorns and that our greatest happiness will be to become bigger, fatter, shinier acorns; but that is of interest only to pigs. our faith gives us knowledge of something better: that we can become oak trees.
dear, dear, kerry - there is more to you, more to all of us than we have ever dreamed.
you have known of the ultram addiction for some time now. however, it has finally taken root - your faith that is - in your admission of the problem it is posing. thats some pretty powerful faith going on within you, my friend; a faith that comes from the source of something more powerful than any of us - love. for in your admission of your ultram addiction, you are taking the first step to healing/loving yourself.
my suggestion to you is based on my experience. quiet your mind. step back from your computer, turn off the t.v., radio, any outside distraction that may be present. get on your knees and ask the God of your understanding for more courage to move forward in ridding yourself from the dependence of ultram.
ask this remarkable source of love that is nudging you, to remind you of your essential wonder...whisper to you the love which you are made of. carry you beyond your doubts and fears; encourage you that you might realize the fullness of this loves creation. and lastly to help you claim the magnificence God has placed within each person.
you are a magnificent, caring, compassionate spirit, kerry and one that does not require the need of a pill to prove or validate this. you are perfect, just as you are. although, our egos would have us believe differently. ego = fears = edging God out.
if being free from this addiction is what you want, you will accomplish this. anything and everything is possible, when we relax and allow that which already is to become foremost in our minds.
i believe in you, kerry.
namaste
sammy
dear, dear, kerry - there is more to you, more to all of us than we have ever dreamed.
you have known of the ultram addiction for some time now. however, it has finally taken root - your faith that is - in your admission of the problem it is posing. thats some pretty powerful faith going on within you, my friend; a faith that comes from the source of something more powerful than any of us - love. for in your admission of your ultram addiction, you are taking the first step to healing/loving yourself.
my suggestion to you is based on my experience. quiet your mind. step back from your computer, turn off the t.v., radio, any outside distraction that may be present. get on your knees and ask the God of your understanding for more courage to move forward in ridding yourself from the dependence of ultram.
ask this remarkable source of love that is nudging you, to remind you of your essential wonder...whisper to you the love which you are made of. carry you beyond your doubts and fears; encourage you that you might realize the fullness of this loves creation. and lastly to help you claim the magnificence God has placed within each person.
you are a magnificent, caring, compassionate spirit, kerry and one that does not require the need of a pill to prove or validate this. you are perfect, just as you are. although, our egos would have us believe differently. ego = fears = edging God out.
if being free from this addiction is what you want, you will accomplish this. anything and everything is possible, when we relax and allow that which already is to become foremost in our minds.
i believe in you, kerry.
namaste
sammy
Kerry:
I understand the angst you are feeling. I agree with Sammy. When I had enough of the Norco, I got down on my knees and prayed for help. I was desperate. I believe in you also, VERY MUCH. You can do this. Turn it over. I know that all of this is easier said than done when you are smack in the middle of it but you have been through a lot and this is another step in your journey. You are trudging that damn road to happy destiny.
Love,
Rachel
I understand the angst you are feeling. I agree with Sammy. When I had enough of the Norco, I got down on my knees and prayed for help. I was desperate. I believe in you also, VERY MUCH. You can do this. Turn it over. I know that all of this is easier said than done when you are smack in the middle of it but you have been through a lot and this is another step in your journey. You are trudging that damn road to happy destiny.
Love,
Rachel
A couple of months ago, there were lots of posts on this website about Ultramm (but not under "pain pills"... under one of the other categories).... From what I've read, the addiction to it is MUCH more severe than with hydrocodone. Much!! I've read of people going into seizures and having to be hospitalized, so PLEASE don't quit cold turkey. PLEASE. If you can't get help from your doctor, I would say to cut down by 1/2 of a pill every week... So if you take 12 a day now, I would take 11 1/2 for one week, then the next week take 11, then the next week take 10 1/2, etc.... That seems to be the only thing that worked for others....
Good luck!
Danielle
Good luck!
Danielle
I am not that far gone, yet.
Here come those yets again...
I am going to find a dr to talk to. I never take more than 5. And I haven't been on it for long.
I just don't want to go around this block again...
it sucks.
kerry
Here come those yets again...
I am going to find a dr to talk to. I never take more than 5. And I haven't been on it for long.
I just don't want to go around this block again...
it sucks.
kerry
you guys made me cry...sniff sniff....thank you...
I don't want another pill addiction.
It was the pain, though, that made me take it, not the addict...
But I am an addict, and it is taking root as a compulsion and obbsession of the mind...
NO withdrawls yet, just mental obbsession. I have other things, like listening for Gods will to hear than my own addict screaming about ultramm, with the guilt, shame, etc..
Cowgirl, you had a stint with this, didn't you?
I will call my dr, but I wanted the addicts perspective..lol.
Kerry
I don't want another pill addiction.
It was the pain, though, that made me take it, not the addict...
But I am an addict, and it is taking root as a compulsion and obbsession of the mind...
NO withdrawls yet, just mental obbsession. I have other things, like listening for Gods will to hear than my own addict screaming about ultramm, with the guilt, shame, etc..
Cowgirl, you had a stint with this, didn't you?
I will call my dr, but I wanted the addicts perspective..lol.
Kerry
Hey There! !
Little beach ~
It feels like we have talked in weeks.
I just wanted you to know that you are in my prayers
and I was thinking about you my friend
Little beach ~
It feels like we have talked in weeks.
I just wanted you to know that you are in my prayers
and I was thinking about you my friend
LittleBeach,
I just wanted to tell you, that your a very brave lady ;o). And very honest ;o). I agree that we don't want to go through WD"s again. I wonder where I will get the strength to do it. But I remember, one day at a time. I thought I was doing myself a big favor, getting off of Oxycontin and going to Percocet. I still am proud that I went off of Oxycontin, but I too, did not want to be "getting myself back out of a Hydro bottle" ;o). But the pain was just too much. So here I am again, staring into a bottle, and trying to get myself out again. Although your story is different, my thoughts are with you. Thank you so much for sharing your story. Have a nice weekend. Take care, Best Wishes
I just wanted to tell you, that your a very brave lady ;o). And very honest ;o). I agree that we don't want to go through WD"s again. I wonder where I will get the strength to do it. But I remember, one day at a time. I thought I was doing myself a big favor, getting off of Oxycontin and going to Percocet. I still am proud that I went off of Oxycontin, but I too, did not want to be "getting myself back out of a Hydro bottle" ;o). But the pain was just too much. So here I am again, staring into a bottle, and trying to get myself out again. Although your story is different, my thoughts are with you. Thank you so much for sharing your story. Have a nice weekend. Take care, Best Wishes
Hi Marina...I hope you are doing well with the opiate monkey in the closet...lol..
Best, I have never gotten off of oxys, but I have seen people get off of those, and I think the actual heroin addicts had it easier...
Please please please (like I have room to talk..) don't get in the percocet bottle. If you are like me, it will become another addiction, probably worse than you imagined, and very fast. I know it sucks so bad to deal with pain. My damn back hurts so bad today. I don't know what to do after the ultramm, it was working great on the pain, but really has lost it effectiveness. Advil just doesn't do it like it should.
You guys are all so kind. I really appreciate all of the support. You took an ugly little devil on my shoulder, and just shut him. up. I got that nudge today Sammy. Your post is exactly why I got sober. I couldn't hear God, a higher power, joy, whatever you choose to call him. I couldn't feel that connection with anything, let alone spiritual when I was using. That nudge you talk about is so unbelievably powerful when you can connect to it..I have had those moments, and I want more of that...
I hope you all sleep well, I am off to dream land. I get the morning to myself tomarrow..no kids...lol.
Rachel, thanks girly, and I am glad that we became friends...
Kerry
Best, I have never gotten off of oxys, but I have seen people get off of those, and I think the actual heroin addicts had it easier...
Please please please (like I have room to talk..) don't get in the percocet bottle. If you are like me, it will become another addiction, probably worse than you imagined, and very fast. I know it sucks so bad to deal with pain. My damn back hurts so bad today. I don't know what to do after the ultramm, it was working great on the pain, but really has lost it effectiveness. Advil just doesn't do it like it should.
You guys are all so kind. I really appreciate all of the support. You took an ugly little devil on my shoulder, and just shut him. up. I got that nudge today Sammy. Your post is exactly why I got sober. I couldn't hear God, a higher power, joy, whatever you choose to call him. I couldn't feel that connection with anything, let alone spiritual when I was using. That nudge you talk about is so unbelievably powerful when you can connect to it..I have had those moments, and I want more of that...
I hope you all sleep well, I am off to dream land. I get the morning to myself tomarrow..no kids...lol.
Rachel, thanks girly, and I am glad that we became friends...
Kerry
Hi Kerry,
Can't add much to what others have posted here, except to say I think you are a very brave individual whose compassion for others has been a real "shining light" on this Board. Whatever I can do to help, I will. Peace, m.
Can't add much to what others have posted here, except to say I think you are a very brave individual whose compassion for others has been a real "shining light" on this Board. Whatever I can do to help, I will. Peace, m.
Dear littlebeach I am sooo sorry foe not answering earlier,weekends are crazy around here.I feel so bad for not writing sooner.Yes I did walk around on eggshells when I tried to stop.I've been on these freakin thingd for about 2 1/2 years.I guess it wouldn't be so bad if it werent for 1 my addictive personality and 2 my tolernce has gone up so high that the 8 the Dr prescribed just didn't work(mentally)anyways.Thats where my problem is/was.I was taking anywhere from 14-16 a day.Since I join this board and make a real effert I'm down to 12 a day Tomarrow I'm trying 10 hopefully I can keep goimg.If its the energy that you get from them.....well thanks to people on here I looked into vitamins.I started taking b12 and b50 also I found these little tablets you let melt and its full od B12.The lady at GNC told me next to the shot you get at a Dr these are one of the strongest.I've been taking them for 2 days and WOW I can feel it.If I knew earlier about them maybe....no I can't say that because with my personality I could probaly be addicted to freakin milk or whatever.Once again I am really sorry for not getting back to you sooner,if you have children I guess you know what I mean.take care....mollyjean
Kerr..How are you today? You asked if I had had a run with the ultram, yep. There are sold over the counter in Mexico, so getting "lots" was too easy. What I didn't know was that the amount I was taking could have killed me. But, I'm invinsable, right? Anyway, getting off of them was by far the worst w/d I have ever encountered. Granted, I was taking 3 times as much as you are, but I don't see it being any easier for you. Again, I cannot say this enough, you gotta tell your Doc what your doing and let them help you. If he is ignorant, then enlighten him.
We started to touch on why we went to Dr's in the first place yesterday..... It's been on my mind since then. I had really never thought about it until I wrote it down and now it's got me bugged. Was I really that pitiful that I had to pay strangers to pay attention to me (now I know why men pay hookers)? I took the pills because that was thier answer to my pain. If only one, just one, had said, you need to talk to somebody. This is something that can't be fixed with a pill......
Ok, starting to feel sorry for myself. Not a good way to start the day. The Christmas tree is up and it's beautiful!
Love you
Cowgirl
We started to touch on why we went to Dr's in the first place yesterday..... It's been on my mind since then. I had really never thought about it until I wrote it down and now it's got me bugged. Was I really that pitiful that I had to pay strangers to pay attention to me (now I know why men pay hookers)? I took the pills because that was thier answer to my pain. If only one, just one, had said, you need to talk to somebody. This is something that can't be fixed with a pill......
Ok, starting to feel sorry for myself. Not a good way to start the day. The Christmas tree is up and it's beautiful!
Love you
Cowgirl
