I am totally terrified now..you think my Dr. is a quack and I don't know what to do. I have ben thru hell and bACK AND i AM READY TO HAVE A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN. DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND? I cannot take it anymore...I have tried twice to do the right thing and now I am afraid to even try. Please...anyone.
Sharonn,,,,,It's going to be OK, Honey. Calm down. Tell me what is wrong.
Sharonn, I just went and read your other thread and now understand why you are upset.
You really do need to wait until you have been in w/d for AT LEAST 18 hours before you take the Sub. You will be fine until then, and once you do take it, all of your w/d symptoms will stop. Just hang on that long. I know your feel miserable, but w/d will not kill you, remember that.
As for the Xanex.......I don't know anymore than what we have always been told.......you shouldn't mix xanex with Sub. Did you dr. OK you to use the xanex?
I wouldn't worry about what anyone says or thinks about your dr., that isn't important right now. What is important is for you to get through the night without taking anything that can interfere with the Sub. tomorrow. Can you do that?
Please help me...On the other threads all the advice is contradicting evrything the dr, said, I am in wd and it is hard to type,,,bear with me, I went to MJ's sub Dr...he gave me an rx and directions for sub...said to wait at least 12 hours or more before starting it, I feel pretty bad now, They are saying he is not a good Dr. I am scared and the subis all I have. I am afraid but too sick to not try it. The 2 threds I posted may help. I feel like I am gonna die, now I am scard. Thanks.Will something bad happen when I take it?
Thank you Carol...I am so upset...I stopped the xanax...he didn't like it but said the dose was so low it did not worry him. I don't know if I can make 18 hrs.what wil happen if I take it sooner.All the arguing is freaking me out...I feel so sick...thank you for being the voice of reason. I am gonna lose my mind. Love S
I am going to tell you this, but understand, I am not recommending you do this.........some people have taken their Sub. with only 12 hours of WD, and it was OK.
Now understand,,,,,,,it is better to wait 24, and I highly suggest you do wait at least 12 absolutely. IF you can not hold on for 24, please, try to hold on for a minimum of 18.
NOTHING bad will happen when you take it. It will make you feel better when you take it. All of the wd symptoms will stop once in gets in your body. Just hold on to that, and try to wait as long as you can.
I couldn't find where you posted when you last took a PP. can you tell me?
Sharon, I think that you will be just fine. You have had some awful experiences in the past few weeks and I'm sure that it is adding to your anxiety. Can you take a nice long bath to help you with the w/d symptoms and your anxiety? That would be my suggestion, try to wait out the 24 hours with as many baths as you can without turning into a prune.
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Carol, you are a doll for talking to Sharonn like this.
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Carol, you are a doll for talking to Sharonn like this.
OK, I see where your 12 hours will be up at midnight. I understand that he told you it would be OK to take it after 12 hours, and it may. However, most doctors wait 18-24 hours. IF you can hang on until 6 am, it would be a sure thing. Can you just lay on the sofa and watch a movie, try a hot bath, or something distracting until 6 am. If you can hold on to the fact that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't that far away, maybe you can wait until 6. Just knowing that you will never feel this way again may help you, it sure did me. The suffering I went through during those 24 hours were much easier because I knew that help was just around the corner. I promose you, as soon as you take the sub., all of the pain will stop within 10 minutes.
Thank you so much...the other thread had me hysterical...I am freezing and sweaty...restless everything...I took apill at 12:30 today. Thank you so much.
Darlin' you don't need anyone criticizing your methods right now, you need a shoulder and some loving support. To hell with tough love! You are going to make it through this sweetie, you are such a strong woman. I have complete faith that tomorrow night at this time you will be feeling more like yourself than you have in a long time. Hang in there, many have gone before you and you have seen how well they are doing. Love ya sugar!
Here's a bit of something to distract you: I was rocking Kenny tonight and singing Twinkle, Twinkle and he started singing along with me...it was such a sweet moment! He's only 2 and he is smart as a whip.
Here's a bit of something to distract you: I was rocking Kenny tonight and singing Twinkle, Twinkle and he started singing along with me...it was such a sweet moment! He's only 2 and he is smart as a whip.
I understand, Sharonn. Right now you need to just try and stay as calm and relaxed as possible. Find a distraction that will take your mind off of your body for a few hours. Think about how great you will be feeling this time tomorrow, and all of the things you are going to be able to do now that you are not chained to your DOC. You're starting off rocky, put it will all be over in a few hours, promise.
I have to leave now, sorry. I will try to check back in an hour or so. If you need to stay on here all night, do it! Whatever it takes to get you through the next few hours.
As I said earlier, I am not advocating it by any means, but I do know some who have taken the pill within 12 hours, and it was OK. So, if the pain gets completely unbearable,,,,,,,,,
AGAIN, it would be wise to wait until 6 am if you can.
Good luck, Sharonn, I'll be back in a little while.
KeeKee will be able to talk to you for quite a while...and she is such an awesome support person...we are very lucky to have her here
Sharonn,
I am going to say a prayer for you. I am on day 10 from lortab and xanax. I feel much better now but those first 3 days were terrible. I wished I had sub when I was going through it. Be glad you don't have to suffer for at least 3-4 days before you start to feel better. I don't know much about sub but everyone keeps saying you feel better within minutes. Hold on, you can do it.
Shelly
I am going to say a prayer for you. I am on day 10 from lortab and xanax. I feel much better now but those first 3 days were terrible. I wished I had sub when I was going through it. Be glad you don't have to suffer for at least 3-4 days before you start to feel better. I don't know much about sub but everyone keeps saying you feel better within minutes. Hold on, you can do it.
Shelly
Sharon, yes, you have been a lot and are taking a lot of brave steps here.
However,this is ONE subject, again, that I wont sugar coat.
You got the validation you were seeking.
I did search the net to find a site that recommended the mix of opaites and benzoziazepines. I did find one..just one ..all the others warned against it..but thats ok..the one that recommened seemed real smart..highly knowledgeable...
It also recommened taking Oxy's or Vicodin rectally to increase your high.
However,this is ONE subject, again, that I wont sugar coat.
You got the validation you were seeking.
I did search the net to find a site that recommended the mix of opaites and benzoziazepines. I did find one..just one ..all the others warned against it..but thats ok..the one that recommened seemed real smart..highly knowledgeable...
It also recommened taking Oxy's or Vicodin rectally to increase your high.
My heart is aching for you...I know the fear you have...I have lived it.
Honey...everyone is different! W/D and the severity of it happens at different times there are so many variables. You need to monitor your own symptoms carefully...look at this!
http://www.csam-asam.org/pdf/misc/C..._flow_sheet.doc
I was only at 16 but my Doctor went ahead and inducted me...because my pupils were dilated as hell and I was edgy as hell. I took my last handful of pills at 4:00pm on Sunday and my appointment was 8:00am Monday...it was 9:00 o'clock by the time I took my first dose.
You don't have to be dying from w/d but you should be feeling it. I know its awful but relief is on the way...this I promise. As far as the benzo goes...I have known many to be on benzo and taking sub....you are not abusing it. If the Doctors knows you are on it and at what dose then you are fine.
I believe the big warning concerning the benzo thing is for those that abuse benzo and take an exorbitant amount. Follow the Doctors instructions, good to know all the cautions....but don't listen to anyone that is calling your Doctor a quack! For now...he is who you have....you have got the medicine and once you are stable if you are not comfortable with the Doctor then you find another. But right now for this purpose...you will be fine!
I hear the panic in your thread......I know you are scared and hurting, this medicine...Suboxone is designed for you...you suffer legitimate pain and are hopelessly addicted to your pain pills.
Stay calm for now...drink some tea...lye down with a soft pillow and blanket...put on a stupid movie and try to get lost in for a few hours. That link above will guide for dosing...this is the one my addiction doctor uses!!
Listen to your body and don't panic....12 hours will be fine to start inducting if you are in w/d. You know yourself and have w/d enough times....if you can stand it...wait longer just to be sure.
But please try to use the scale and see what number you are at. God I am right here with and will stay here all night with you....I promise....I am here and I am not going anywhere!!! Count on me.
Honey...everyone is different! W/D and the severity of it happens at different times there are so many variables. You need to monitor your own symptoms carefully...look at this!
http://www.csam-asam.org/pdf/misc/C..._flow_sheet.doc
I was only at 16 but my Doctor went ahead and inducted me...because my pupils were dilated as hell and I was edgy as hell. I took my last handful of pills at 4:00pm on Sunday and my appointment was 8:00am Monday...it was 9:00 o'clock by the time I took my first dose.
You don't have to be dying from w/d but you should be feeling it. I know its awful but relief is on the way...this I promise. As far as the benzo goes...I have known many to be on benzo and taking sub....you are not abusing it. If the Doctors knows you are on it and at what dose then you are fine.
I believe the big warning concerning the benzo thing is for those that abuse benzo and take an exorbitant amount. Follow the Doctors instructions, good to know all the cautions....but don't listen to anyone that is calling your Doctor a quack! For now...he is who you have....you have got the medicine and once you are stable if you are not comfortable with the Doctor then you find another. But right now for this purpose...you will be fine!
I hear the panic in your thread......I know you are scared and hurting, this medicine...Suboxone is designed for you...you suffer legitimate pain and are hopelessly addicted to your pain pills.
Stay calm for now...drink some tea...lye down with a soft pillow and blanket...put on a stupid movie and try to get lost in for a few hours. That link above will guide for dosing...this is the one my addiction doctor uses!!
Listen to your body and don't panic....12 hours will be fine to start inducting if you are in w/d. You know yourself and have w/d enough times....if you can stand it...wait longer just to be sure.
But please try to use the scale and see what number you are at. God I am right here with and will stay here all night with you....I promise....I am here and I am not going anywhere!!! Count on me.
Thank you with all my heart.
Sorry-
All benzodiazapines depress breathing as do opiates and so if taken with opiates or alcohol, can result in death from respiratory failure.
That is a fact.
Do what you want. Let us know if you wake up tomorrow.
All benzodiazapines depress breathing as do opiates and so if taken with opiates or alcohol, can result in death from respiratory failure.
That is a fact.
Do what you want. Let us know if you wake up tomorrow.
Your welcome honey...it will be fine. You are under a Doctors care and are not hiding anything. I know you are scared...I was terrified.
You are very close to feeling the most "normal" you have felt in a very long time.
What will this do for you?
Time...it will give you precious time to begin the healing process, your brain chemistry has been altered and need to heal. That is what the sub will do. You will find a peace that perhaps you have not had for years. It was this way with me and I did not and do not suffer from chronic pain. It may or may not help your pain...in any event you will be better able to access your true pain level. I have spoken with chronic pain sufferers in the same situation as you and some have found relief some not but surprisingly enough to them found that a good over the counter pain reliever worked fantastic for them.
Hold on...I am sorry that you have to go through this. Is Tony home? Is he helping, or do you want to beat him over the head with a frying pan like I did my husband.
I am right here...
You are very close to feeling the most "normal" you have felt in a very long time.
What will this do for you?
Time...it will give you precious time to begin the healing process, your brain chemistry has been altered and need to heal. That is what the sub will do. You will find a peace that perhaps you have not had for years. It was this way with me and I did not and do not suffer from chronic pain. It may or may not help your pain...in any event you will be better able to access your true pain level. I have spoken with chronic pain sufferers in the same situation as you and some have found relief some not but surprisingly enough to them found that a good over the counter pain reliever worked fantastic for them.
Hold on...I am sorry that you have to go through this. Is Tony home? Is he helping, or do you want to beat him over the head with a frying pan like I did my husband.
I am right here...
Well I need to get into bed. I'm watching Kenny in the morning.
Sharon, I will say a prayer for you....you CAN do this!
KeeKee, thanks for being YOU!
Sharon, I will say a prayer for you....you CAN do this!
KeeKee, thanks for being YOU!
Hi Janet! I haven't seen you for ages...you have your hands full with that adorable little grandson of yours. Isn't it wonderful...good night then...still early here...I have to and track mine down. I can hear her along with about 10 other neighborhood kids...they are jumping on the trampoline.
Kearra's trampoline isn't here from Canada yet...but I know I am in store for some payback! LOL...
Have a good sleep!
Kearra's trampoline isn't here from Canada yet...but I know I am in store for some payback! LOL...
Have a good sleep!
