Jeff,
Time to let go....and I offer that from personal experience in this case.....Many on the Board have had to come to the realization that it's simply better not to post to certain people rather than to keep banging home the same message and not getting the results we expect or want -- and thereby growing increasingly frustrated. Intentions are good, but it becomes counter-productive. Control issues get in the mix. People are ready when they're ready, and we can pray that it doesn't come too late. Sometimes, it's just better just to read another thread. . . . Respectfully, None.
Jeff- actually, suicide attempts coming off of Xanax are fairly common- It's a sick f-ing drug that makes the user sicker than anyone can imagine.
None I understand EXACTLY what your saying. But you read you react. It cant hurt anybody.
I do not lose sleep over Elvis. I would lose sleep if i did not try to help her.
THAT IS ME
Jeff
I do not lose sleep over Elvis. I would lose sleep if i did not try to help her.
THAT IS ME
Jeff
Danny have you knowledge of the past 2+ yrs? regarding this young woman?
Jeff
P.S Giants BLOW---LOL we just BLEW IT--Injuries are no excuse EVER--its part of the game.
Go back to Giants making the Superbowl versus the Ravens. We had no chance to win bu man How did we get to the big game??
Check that season out.This year all the breaks are going against us the year we made the bowl against Ravens we got ALL the breaks.
Hey next year--We have a good team./ 2 deaths of owners last year kept our GM one more year. Hate the coach he is okay but I wish the Big tuna came back for another run. He can still coach.
Shockey and parcells--LOL
Jeff
P.S Giants BLOW---LOL we just BLEW IT--Injuries are no excuse EVER--its part of the game.
Go back to Giants making the Superbowl versus the Ravens. We had no chance to win bu man How did we get to the big game??
Check that season out.This year all the breaks are going against us the year we made the bowl against Ravens we got ALL the breaks.
Hey next year--We have a good team./ 2 deaths of owners last year kept our GM one more year. Hate the coach he is okay but I wish the Big tuna came back for another run. He can still coach.
Shockey and parcells--LOL
Jeff-ya, I do. We conversed when she was originally on Xanax (2 years ago), when she quit it and now she relapsed..ya I know her story.
Anyway, that game got kinda boring in the 4th quarter..I hate games like that..the 49er game was the same way..Bear go BACK to NY this weekend for the Jets..I'm gearing up for my favorite game...BASEBALL....
Anyway, that game got kinda boring in the 4th quarter..I hate games like that..the 49er game was the same way..Bear go BACK to NY this weekend for the Jets..I'm gearing up for my favorite game...BASEBALL....
Giants just Messed up. Eli ? The coach> 52 yard kick ?/in that wind down 4 he missed from 46? earlier--Coach is a MENTAL MIDGET
God I would coach for free. let alone millions.$$
Oh well next week tough game.
Rooting for your bears as I DESPISE the JETS
Jeff
P.S regarding Elvis its very sad. But you never give up on a FELLOW ADDICT OR YOU DO NOT BELONG IN THE PROGRAM.JMHO
God I would coach for free. let alone millions.$$
Oh well next week tough game.
Rooting for your bears as I DESPISE the JETS
Jeff
P.S regarding Elvis its very sad. But you never give up on a FELLOW ADDICT OR YOU DO NOT BELONG IN THE PROGRAM.JMHO
Kee,Kee, You're point in your post to me would be what?? Old news.. I have explained myself about posting under different names and why I did it. You might want to take a good look in the mirror and ask why you pretended to be clean and offer advise to other addicts when you were still using. Reality check.. Shantel
thankyou mj, java and cowgirl. yes i was down their place cg, and im glad she heard it as well! ur right cowgirl. danny, thankyou as usual u have made me think about the side effects with xanax and just how long u said they stay in ur system is insane but true unfortunatley. jeff i understand what ur saying and even agree with u to an extent! do u just have to come across so mean. why do u dislike me so much, that u come across so nasty sometimes? i am also fine with others that agree with u, like as i said even i agree to an extent, just u could come across better sometimes! dont turn into another kiwi on me, please!
taking alot in.....take care....(sigh)
taking alot in.....take care....(sigh)
A respectful comment....I think any and all football talk should be kept on separate threads. I know you guys are excited, but it isn't respectful to those posting with addiction issues. One of the great things about this board is that the mods allow us to have OT threads. I think we should try to keep OT in OT threads.
hey atlas! ive just been reading reds new thread. did i mention (and i dont think i did in fear of ridicule) that when i take the occassional benzo........the last few weeks, only just the other week not for long, but my gp agreed to putting me back on a couple of xanax a day.....................please guys dont, dont yell pls dont dont pls......im shaking now.....i know just dont .............
it goes through the chemist, and i only get a couple a day, im not allowed the bottle after abusing them......i er......mmm..(i look like a little girl standing there knowing shes done something she shouldnt of and being found out...)
this is my regular, knowing all gp!!!! no lies to him about anything! he knows my history.....ill be back later.......sigh.....is this called relapse? i dont even feel them working! i dont enjoy them like i used to! my tolerance is too high! talk soon i guess.......
it goes through the chemist, and i only get a couple a day, im not allowed the bottle after abusing them......i er......mmm..(i look like a little girl standing there knowing shes done something she shouldnt of and being found out...)
this is my regular, knowing all gp!!!! no lies to him about anything! he knows my history.....ill be back later.......sigh.....is this called relapse? i dont even feel them working! i dont enjoy them like i used to! my tolerance is too high! talk soon i guess.......
Elvis,
You referenced that in a post the other day. You can stop shaking, you already let the cat out of the bag...LOL....or at least that was what I got out of the post, and posted thinking you had been taking them.
Honey, I have to go to bed (or try to anyway.) Be careful please. Put together a plan and stick to it.
You referenced that in a post the other day. You can stop shaking, you already let the cat out of the bag...LOL....or at least that was what I got out of the post, and posted thinking you had been taking them.
Honey, I have to go to bed (or try to anyway.) Be careful please. Put together a plan and stick to it.
oh good!!!! u knew!!!
i dont know............it took me so long to get off them last time........but this time around i feel it would not! esp since im not enjoying being on them like i used to!
great, they are both home argueing.......gotta go be back later.....
i dont know............it took me so long to get off them last time........but this time around i feel it would not! esp since im not enjoying being on them like i used to!
great, they are both home argueing.......gotta go be back later.....
Shantel you came to this thread asking about the cowboys"?
Now you are judging another addict?
Kee Kee not sure what Shantel's deal is but fugetaboutit
Elvis you said you understand me? Well then please take all the advice given here (BY EVERYBODY) and start to take action.
Elvis if you think the way I have spoken to you is mean? No its not at all.
You say your back on xanax? Personally Elvis if your in as situation where the doctor feels you need a benzo? That is not a problem.
Taking a few xanax occasionally being your own doctor is life threatening. It will lead to a roller coaster ride. I only say this cause that is what happens to most addicts. They self medicate.
Elvis what I do not understand is why would the doctor put you back on xanax?
That i do not understand. But hey? Its your deal.
How many Mg and how long are you to be on the xanax?
Have you ever tried Klonopin? Also Google xamax there is a long lasting pill introduced to the market a while ago I believe. Maybe this would be better.
Xanax XR its called
I just do not get you going back to your DOC and how any doctor who understands addiction would do this?
Elvis I would re-think going back on xanax.
Take care--Jeff
Now you are judging another addict?
Kee Kee not sure what Shantel's deal is but fugetaboutit
Elvis you said you understand me? Well then please take all the advice given here (BY EVERYBODY) and start to take action.
Elvis if you think the way I have spoken to you is mean? No its not at all.
You say your back on xanax? Personally Elvis if your in as situation where the doctor feels you need a benzo? That is not a problem.
Taking a few xanax occasionally being your own doctor is life threatening. It will lead to a roller coaster ride. I only say this cause that is what happens to most addicts. They self medicate.
Elvis what I do not understand is why would the doctor put you back on xanax?
That i do not understand. But hey? Its your deal.
How many Mg and how long are you to be on the xanax?
Have you ever tried Klonopin? Also Google xamax there is a long lasting pill introduced to the market a while ago I believe. Maybe this would be better.
Xanax XR its called
I just do not get you going back to your DOC and how any doctor who understands addiction would do this?
Elvis I would re-think going back on xanax.
Take care--Jeff
respectful comment....I think any and all football talk should be kept on separate threads. I know you guys are excited, but it isn't respectful to those posting with addiction issues. One of the great things about this board is that the mods allow us to have OT threads. I think we should try to keep OT in OT threads.
Thank you Atlas! It's very hard to stay on topic with this sports banter...and it doesn't make a chit of sense to us non sports lovers...make a sports thread and ramble on there....you are detracting from any good discussion that is going on....respectful of others??? No freakin way! If it was an occasional thing that went on it would be okay, but it is invading almost every post.
JMHO
Elvis, as long as you keep taking pills you will be in the disease, not recovery...seek some help...get active in getting better...
Yes, I'm one of those that rarely post to you...I have to let it go to God...there's nothing that I, or anyone else can say...you are consciously staying in the problem, not the solution...time to do something different. I also notice that you post the same thing over two different forums...a slight addiction to drama?
Thank you Atlas! It's very hard to stay on topic with this sports banter...and it doesn't make a chit of sense to us non sports lovers...make a sports thread and ramble on there....you are detracting from any good discussion that is going on....respectful of others??? No freakin way! If it was an occasional thing that went on it would be okay, but it is invading almost every post.
JMHO
Elvis, as long as you keep taking pills you will be in the disease, not recovery...seek some help...get active in getting better...
Yes, I'm one of those that rarely post to you...I have to let it go to God...there's nothing that I, or anyone else can say...you are consciously staying in the problem, not the solution...time to do something different. I also notice that you post the same thing over two different forums...a slight addiction to drama?
Just wanted to send you ((((((((((((((((((9hugs)))))))))))))huny.Remember grab life by the balls & make it YOUR OWN WE ALL BELIEVE IN YOU....mj
sorry, I must say this......
FINALLY..... someone other than us 'mean' people said it..... staying in the problem and loving drama....
Elvis,
you cant relapse if you never were in recovery.... or even completely clean for that matter.... as I read your posts I recall that the longest you have ever been 100% clean with NO MOOD ALTERING MEDS... is maybe 48 hours continuous and that may be a generous estimate... you always had some situation where your nan had to give you just a little something.... then you got mad when we said that that was crap... you say you are getting physically abused yet although you have had restraining orders these people still do it and walk the streets... now your mom...?.... maybe your mom and dad can share a cell..... who knows....
jeff is right.... taking xanax is not the answer.. at least not by itself.... we suggested getting a job.... you resist.... we suggest moving out on your own... you resist... we suggested NA/AA you resist even though we explain that that one 'meeting' probably wasnt NA but something else.... now it has been months since we have suggested volunteering and you are just now checking into it?.... go to a nursing home feed a resident.... talk to one....you dont have to have permission or someones OKKY DOKY at least not here.... listen to someone else or there problems for a change..... bottom line is I have had to try to do the same as bumps... let go.. I am also like jeff I dont like to give up.... but if you only remember one word today... ( though you wont all your think and obsess about is how mean I am and others and how we dont understand....) but the word is ACTION..... other than slitting your wrists what ACTION..ie movement, progress, active steps... have you really I mean really done in the last two years?..... you got off most of your pills but havent confronted the REASON you self medicate thus... you continue to do so.... and if you think that this is only occasionally now... just wait.. you will find yourself finding more and more 'reasons' why it is ok to take meds.... I personally think assuming everything your doctor has done is true and assuming he know ALL that is going on with you.... assumeing he does then in this country he would border on malpractice....if he gave you xanax it should ONLY ONLY be with the referal to a real psychiatrist..... with proff of your work with him.....
anyway.... I will now let go again..... I am sooo sorry you are soo miserable in your life.... I understand the need to feel vindicated and get the 'poor baby' responses .. I have been there and sometime fight not to go there again.. but I go to meetings and get a good healthy dose of reality and gratetude.... some dont have nans to love them... some dont have homes or roofs over there heads... some cant affort any doctor.... some only have months to live.... I say that not to negate your situation as I am sure you are scared and feel alone but you continue to feel that way cause you are making a choice to ... by not DOING something you are choosing to stay in the problem....
ok.. have a good day.... May God show you the way and the courage to walk it......
Teresa
FINALLY..... someone other than us 'mean' people said it..... staying in the problem and loving drama....
Elvis,
you cant relapse if you never were in recovery.... or even completely clean for that matter.... as I read your posts I recall that the longest you have ever been 100% clean with NO MOOD ALTERING MEDS... is maybe 48 hours continuous and that may be a generous estimate... you always had some situation where your nan had to give you just a little something.... then you got mad when we said that that was crap... you say you are getting physically abused yet although you have had restraining orders these people still do it and walk the streets... now your mom...?.... maybe your mom and dad can share a cell..... who knows....
jeff is right.... taking xanax is not the answer.. at least not by itself.... we suggested getting a job.... you resist.... we suggest moving out on your own... you resist... we suggested NA/AA you resist even though we explain that that one 'meeting' probably wasnt NA but something else.... now it has been months since we have suggested volunteering and you are just now checking into it?.... go to a nursing home feed a resident.... talk to one....you dont have to have permission or someones OKKY DOKY at least not here.... listen to someone else or there problems for a change..... bottom line is I have had to try to do the same as bumps... let go.. I am also like jeff I dont like to give up.... but if you only remember one word today... ( though you wont all your think and obsess about is how mean I am and others and how we dont understand....) but the word is ACTION..... other than slitting your wrists what ACTION..ie movement, progress, active steps... have you really I mean really done in the last two years?..... you got off most of your pills but havent confronted the REASON you self medicate thus... you continue to do so.... and if you think that this is only occasionally now... just wait.. you will find yourself finding more and more 'reasons' why it is ok to take meds.... I personally think assuming everything your doctor has done is true and assuming he know ALL that is going on with you.... assumeing he does then in this country he would border on malpractice....if he gave you xanax it should ONLY ONLY be with the referal to a real psychiatrist..... with proff of your work with him.....
anyway.... I will now let go again..... I am sooo sorry you are soo miserable in your life.... I understand the need to feel vindicated and get the 'poor baby' responses .. I have been there and sometime fight not to go there again.. but I go to meetings and get a good healthy dose of reality and gratetude.... some dont have nans to love them... some dont have homes or roofs over there heads... some cant affort any doctor.... some only have months to live.... I say that not to negate your situation as I am sure you are scared and feel alone but you continue to feel that way cause you are making a choice to ... by not DOING something you are choosing to stay in the problem....
ok.. have a good day.... May God show you the way and the courage to walk it......
Teresa
None4Me...as usual, the voice of reason and respect.
Just amazes me people who come on here claiming to be clean for 11 months or so............and speak nothing but hate to those in there exact situation.
If that is a true recovery program.............I want no part.
Morning Teresa..........Jeff...........Good to see you both.
You to Lisa :)
If that is a true recovery program.............I want no part.
Morning Teresa..........Jeff...........Good to see you both.
You to Lisa :)
Elvis...please be carefull...very carefull...you are on a very slippery slope right now! this was DOC was it not? I know that as long as I have breath in my body..I will never be able to take pain pills again...or I am a gonner!
I am praying for you!
Hugs
I am praying for you!
Hugs
None 4 me Lisa sorry I truly disagree. It took a lot more than this to get me into Rehab #1.
If you believe in God and the program you just do not leave someone even if they post Bull spit. Where do you think fake it till you make it came from.
I faked it for years. It took me from 1988 till 2004 to get it. Elvis is on year??
During these years I was "SOBER" But worked a real serious program for like 18 months? then Split --Was Cured and it all started again. This time I learned how to LIVE with ADDICTION not to just SURVIVE
I see things much differently. And one think I KNOW FOR FACT YOU NEVER GIVE UP ON A FELLOW ADDICT.
She just might snap and hit her bottom.
Nobody here knows where she really is at.
I care so do many others. I was taught that by taking help one day I would give back.
This is giving back.
Who here is that smart to know what it will take for Elvis to hit bottom. Or she will die or go to jail or live a miserable horrible life one day ata time.
Anyone know for sure which it its going to be?
Till then I choose to try and help in my own sick way.
Sincerely,
Hurting with the Gout looking at the seroquel Yep DONNA I NEED A SHRINK.
A female one. to Unravel my inner being.
Jeff
If you believe in God and the program you just do not leave someone even if they post Bull spit. Where do you think fake it till you make it came from.
I faked it for years. It took me from 1988 till 2004 to get it. Elvis is on year??
During these years I was "SOBER" But worked a real serious program for like 18 months? then Split --Was Cured and it all started again. This time I learned how to LIVE with ADDICTION not to just SURVIVE
I see things much differently. And one think I KNOW FOR FACT YOU NEVER GIVE UP ON A FELLOW ADDICT.
She just might snap and hit her bottom.
Nobody here knows where she really is at.
I care so do many others. I was taught that by taking help one day I would give back.
This is giving back.
Who here is that smart to know what it will take for Elvis to hit bottom. Or she will die or go to jail or live a miserable horrible life one day ata time.
Anyone know for sure which it its going to be?
Till then I choose to try and help in my own sick way.
Sincerely,
Hurting with the Gout looking at the seroquel Yep DONNA I NEED A SHRINK.
A female one. to Unravel my inner being.
Jeff
