Hey Geo.....

Hi geo thanks for your message you posted to me. I start the sub on wednesday, its a 10 day course where ive to go to the hospital everyday to get one tablet and a saturday they will give me sunday dose away with me. You said geo your coming off the subs geo, how long have you been on sub? I thought it was a couple of weeks at the most you take it i didnt know you can take it for a long time. I wish you all the best in coming off subs you have done so well coming off heroin you must be so proud of yourself geo. What made you come off heroin had you had enough of the poision and you knew you had to change. Im using 10 a day i smoke it in the morning and dont take it to the next day, if i dont have any the next day i get really ill, where im so sick and in full blown withdraws around lunchtime. When i tried in april to come off it i was clean for 14 days and everyday was a nightmare i was sick for 8 days i was rushed into hospital twice where my heart had nearly stopped, I was detoxing with lofexidine and librium and instead of getting better each day i was getting worse, the doctors took me off the lofexidine when i went into hospital, i was taking a bad reaction to the lofexidine which was affecting my heart. Im on a high waiting for wed but im terrified too as i know ive got so much infront of me but this time i wont turn back i will keep on fighting it, all i want is to wake up in the morning and feel like everyone else does...Normal. Congratulations again geo for getting off heroin i take my hat off to you. All the Best Yvonne x
Hi Yvonne

Was taking the subs 4 about a month and a half or so, my gf saved me up about 50 8mg tabs, they are hard to take, really bad taste having to keep them under your tongue, but I started getting to like them, subs are surposed to be for a quick detox, but people have talking them for up to a year, my gf was over for 3 weeks, and she went an scored gear, so I ended up smoking half a 16th so that was knocked on the head, everytime something goes wrong she has to go an but gear, so I have told her if she gives in to gear anymore, we can not see each other ontil we are both clean, I just can't say no to gear, I'm glad I can't get it where I live.

I think that she is trying really hard now, it just annoys me because I was down to 1mg of subs (nearly clean) and I see my gf an we go right back on it, thats why am so annoyed because I have been so close to being clean and then am right back on it. But not this time.

I stopped talking last sat 9/11 an took 2 8mil subs, but I felt rough, I took 3 on mon, but I was still feeling really ill but on tues I felt alot better, now I am down again to about 2mg, so I ordered some vally's online for when I stop the subs.

I went into hospital an detoxed using lofexidine and it was nearly as bad as a cold turkey, still have 8 up the stairs, I think they are crap but they do take a bit of the agitation away.

I have been trying to stop heroin after I was taking for about a year, but I had to buy meth of the streets, an there was times I had to get gear because I could'nt get any meth, nightmare.

What is that librum like, was going to order some instead of vally's but I don't know what they are like, are what they do for you.

How you getting on, My wee bro had my computer so I hav'nt been on in a while, as I said from sunday, I went down 8mg every 2 days til I got to 1 tab, 8mg, then down to a half, and now I am on 2mg, have to say, a did'nt find it to bad, easier than coming down on meth, plus subs are a bit of a blocker, so you don't want to take gear.

Any Think al go to my bed soon, hope to here from you again.

love Geo xxx