Hi Jasmine

Your right Shar, I really fell for it. Gotta be honest to be or wanna be in recovery. Why would someone say things like that? Awful things, the baby thing really made me loose sleep because it brought back memories for me and I just felt so strongly about it and prayed and prayed she'd change her mind about the termination of her so called pregnancy. I trust you and quite a few more on here, entirely. The thing a few weeks ago shook me a bit too, as soon as I get my damn email thing fixed I wanna email a few of you guys privately about that one too. Some interesting things I haven't wanted to broadcast here.
Love,
Roe
Hi Roe,
I swear I'm going to bed after this! lol
Your not stupid, your alot like Gina in a way. Always giving the benefit of the doubt and being trusting sometimes to a fault. I was like that too. Thats a good way to be, don't change it, just be more cautious. One of the things I'm still learning, ( not really having much to do with recovery ) but getting better at is,
my dad was always able to read people really well. Growing up he was ALWAYS
right about which guy was no good etc.. I'd bring a new friend around he'd say, be careful hangin' with that one etc..I'd say naa, hes cool or shes nice whatever.
He was never, I mean never wrong about things like that. I'm learning to let people talk as much as they want, I say very little and let who ever ramble on as much as they want. Sooner or later things will either just be ok or they'll start without even realizing it, proving they are lying or they can't be trusted with there own words. And the great con job they think they are pulling on ya' they can't see themselves how painfully obvious there bulls--t shows. So if ya' ever get a gut feeling about someone that something isn't right, just back off a little and let them do all the talkin', they'll give themselves up almost every time.
Take care....................................God bless.......................................Bob
Excellent piece of advice. I'm going to bed too, its almost 1:45 and I'm beat.
Gotta feel kinda sorry for people like that tho, ya know? But I don't want to communicate with dishonesty because its counterproductive to what I'm trying to do.
PS: Gina, if your still up, I have a few problems I need to share. I have hepititis, got it over the weekend while I was over seas at my island in a;sldkhag and then came back pregnant from one of the locals, did however manage to get back in time to post to you all because I was in Costa Rica with Glad and had to rush back because there are no pain pills there. Got back in time to realize that I've broken my leg, its broke in three places but I'll have the cast off tomorrow. LMAO............LOVE YOU GUYS
Hey I fell for the Mitzy game at first too. Then I was told to put her name in the thread at the bottom and read her old post. That's when I realized that somebody could be that sick to play these kinds of games. It's sad.
I read Mitzy's prior posts, as well. I have to admit I gave her the benefit of the doubt early on, I felt bad for her because everyone was being so mean. But I feel really stupid, now. I was really sad that she was going to have an abortion, although I know that is her right. Hopefully she isn't pregnant, though.
Hi Liz,
Did you read the post Bob wrote a few up? I read that a bunch of times and it really makes sense. About letting people dig their own graves basically.
My kids are fighting and my hands are shaking as I'm typing, I'm so stressed right now. Sometimes I really can't handle the fighting too well. Sometimes I just let em go. They scream and say the worst things to each other, my six year old just said to Nick, my fourteen year old (oldest and only girl) "I hate you and wish you were dead". My six year old said that! God, what am I doing wrong as a mother? Gotta wonder sometimes. Sometimes I wish we had the funds to have two homes a few blocks apart, and my husband (who is in WI and will be for who knows how long due to legal issues) and I could have them a few days, and he could, isn't that an awful thing to think?
We've been married for 20 years, (well together for 20, married for 18) and he got in a little trouble while we were living in WI, I took the kids and moved to AZ; he had an idiot of a probation officer and when the guy was doing the papers, did them wrong, sent him home to us (after not seeing him in 8 months) and called three weeks later and said he had to come back because the paperwork was done wrong. So he had to go back. The kids have never been separated from their dad before, first eight months, then the f'ers rip him away from him again. Doubt if he'll be home for Christmas even. The probation people in WI as well as here in AZ both say this was a HUGE screw up and either state has heard of it. I've been advised to sue, and beleive me after all the red tape, phone calls, kids crying for their dad, etc. I would love to, just don't know how to go about it.
Now, I have to go hon, I have to shower, then take Tommy (the baby 6) I still call him the baby, and go babysit a five year old neighbor that I'd just as soon choke as look at, but I said yes and his mom is having some problems, so I opted to babysit there so they could tear up her house instead of mine.
I'm behind on school because I do it online and that part of my computer is screwed up and I have to work on that this weekend, endess hours of tech support probably, made the mistake of having my neighbor "fix it" and it made it worse and I'm four assignments behind. Thanks for the ear tho, I really needed it. Its quieted down a bit, the fighting just gets to me. They're good kids, everyone says how wonderful they are, but when they're home and we're alone, its a different story, in the end, I guess if they're going to be brats, I'd rather have them be brats at home and have other people like them, ya know? Fill me in on yours, what they've been up to, what your plans are for Christmas, etc. How you guys do that. You better get them for Christmas. Love, Roe
ps; not even going to proofread this, hope it makes sense.
Sugar- You and I are in the same boat here..
Hey Danny, how are you today? I've had better days. I really enjoy your posts, they make me laugh and we agree on a lot of things. I'm hanging on to sobriety....and I KNOW that I will be clean for atleast 9 months! I would never put my pregnancy at risk, I know that in my heart and mind! I hope you are hanging in there and have a great weekend! Jess
Hi Roe,

Don't worry about what the kids say to each other. Mine will do that too. Say the same things. I say to them that it isn't nice but I know better then take what they say so serious, ya know? They just say the dumbest things out of anger.

Sorry about the kids Dad not being there. That has to suck big time. I will have my kids on Christmas day. Their Dad gets them on Christmas Eve. Every year we do it this way because their dad's family celebrate on Christmas Eve every year. So it works for me.
Monday I have to start shopping. I'm so late this year. Oh well, I'll get it done. Good luck with the baby sitting. Might do your 6 year old good though. Sometimes having another kid over my sons age is actually easier then them being alone.
Have a great day and enjoy the weekend.

Love,
Liz
Briar- You are not a bad mother. All kids say stuff like that. Mine did (do), so don't beat yourself up about it. Kids will be kids.

Jess- Hey! I'm so happy for you. Did you read the song lyrics I posted for you? You know, just when we thing "ok, enough kids" another comes along and we wouldn't trade 'em for anything in the world..
Danny, I read the lyrics...that's so SWEET!!!! I know that I'll love this little angel with all of my heart, just like the other two. They're a handful, but they're the best part of my life. I don't think I have the flu...I don't feel THAT bad. I got the flu last year...it was during the brief time I was clean last year, and it felt JUST LIKE withdrawals! Except I had a fever of 104. It was terrible because both of my kids had the same thing and I was SURE that they were going to die. I know, a little dramatic, but I was SO sick. And my husband was gone for work that night. Anyway, you're a good guy and thanks!

Briar....your kids sound so...NORMAL! lol My seven year old stomped up tp her room last night, slammed the door, and screamed...."I HATE MY LIFE...YOU HATE ME!!!" because she couldn't spend the night with our neighbor's daughter. OK, I remeber talking like that when I was 16, maybe, not 7!!!! So, don't worry, you're not a bad mom, our kids are just nuts!! LOL Love, Jess
Briar, my kids do that too...they get violent...and I hardly ever spank them. One minute they are stepping on each other, and the next they are loving as angels....go figure....
Maybe you should video them in their worst moments and show it to them...
LOL..
Kerry
Briar..that's why we look out for eachother on this board. We all deserve respect and honesty. If it's given it will be returned.

You didn't do anything wrong, none of us did. We all want to beleive the best in people and we just want to help. You have a heart the size of Texas. I love you for that.

Cowgirl
Kerry- Don't trust those little ones for one minute! hehe

Danny"Looking for that paddle, the kids are out of control" OB343