It had nothing to do with you.
I dont' need to be told how to feel or how I should act. I'm a big girl now, but thanks. My judgment is just fine. I try to see the good in all..some just make it harder than others.....
This thread started out asking a member of this board how he was doing and to hopefully take the sting out of what has been said in other threads. Thanks to some, it has taken another nasty turn.
Sometimes it's a really good thing to mind your own business and work on your recovery instead of everyone else's. Oh, but that's right, you're not in recovery. You're not an addict. Doesn't mean that I don't think you belong here or that you don't have good input, just means you don't know what it's like to walk in our shoes.
Cowgirl
Marie
Oh okay, thanks for the "heads up" I missed that totally. Yeah feuds are not good things and I sure don't need one right now for sure. Thanks for setting me straight...you're great!
Thanks again Marie!
Clancy
Oh okay, thanks for the "heads up" I missed that totally. Yeah feuds are not good things and I sure don't need one right now for sure. Thanks for setting me straight...you're great!
Thanks again Marie!
Clancy
Hmmmmmmmm, Thought you like the "Tell it like it is approach"...lol
Oh but I do..when it's intelligent.
Now that's funny.
Now that's funny.
Really? I must of missed something in your post then, lol
And that surprizes me how?
lol....
Just thought I would take take the advice at the bottom of your post, lol
Cowgirl,
If you were talking to me then I will reply. I am not an addict, you are right there. But that doesn't mean I have not walked in your shoes. The 80's and cocaine were a BIG problem for me and I HAVE walked in those horrible shoes and wouldn't wish them on anyone. So I do have something to say here that may help someone. I made it out of hell 15 yrs ago...15 years, pretty good CLEAN time right? Something that makes me very, very happy. So I won't let ANYONE take my joy away concerning that accomplishment! It's hard work But I'm thinking with 15 years of clean time to my name I have a pretty LOUD voice here and can use it when I think something is awry.
I think that the advice you offer this board is awesome and you are faithful to this board. That is hard work, just hanging in there month after month, person after person. You do a good job. Just thought I saw something that didn't seem fair.
Don't worry about me, I'm sure you won't but please don't ask me to not let the door hit me in the butt, that is so low class, ok?
Keep up the good work.
Clancy
If you were talking to me then I will reply. I am not an addict, you are right there. But that doesn't mean I have not walked in your shoes. The 80's and cocaine were a BIG problem for me and I HAVE walked in those horrible shoes and wouldn't wish them on anyone. So I do have something to say here that may help someone. I made it out of hell 15 yrs ago...15 years, pretty good CLEAN time right? Something that makes me very, very happy. So I won't let ANYONE take my joy away concerning that accomplishment! It's hard work But I'm thinking with 15 years of clean time to my name I have a pretty LOUD voice here and can use it when I think something is awry.
I think that the advice you offer this board is awesome and you are faithful to this board. That is hard work, just hanging in there month after month, person after person. You do a good job. Just thought I saw something that didn't seem fair.
Don't worry about me, I'm sure you won't but please don't ask me to not let the door hit me in the butt, that is so low class, ok?
Keep up the good work.
Clancy
Clancy..why would I tell you to not let the door hit you? Did I miss something here? I said that I felt you had alot to offer and I apologize for not knowing you are an addict. A drug is a drug is a drug..so whether it's pain pills or cocaine..it's all relevent. I'm just curious though..why a pain pill board?
Anyway.. I think from the very beginning we got off on the wrong foot and I think that we should take a deep breath and start over.
As I said before, this thread was for Kiwi..it was a chance to get to know him and to take the sting out of previous posts. Leave it to Liz to cause trouble. She never knows when to just leave it alone.
I hope you have a good rest of your night...
Cowgirl
Anyway.. I think from the very beginning we got off on the wrong foot and I think that we should take a deep breath and start over.
As I said before, this thread was for Kiwi..it was a chance to get to know him and to take the sting out of previous posts. Leave it to Liz to cause trouble. She never knows when to just leave it alone.
I hope you have a good rest of your night...
Cowgirl
First of all I wasn't causing trouble. I don't think it is right to tell somebody that has been rude to everybody, critisizing other people's spelling and all the other rude things he has done and you turn around and tell him to keep "Telling it like it is" He came on this board just going to thread to thread causing trouble. You make it sound like it's a good thing to be like that.
No problem Cowgirl
I just saw things coming from him that I thought unfair. I always think people need compassion at the beginning of recovery. That is my stand. It seemed that our posts were being confused and Marie got me going in the right direction.
I don't know that Liz is causing trouble...no more than I see this new Kiwi guy causing trouble. He's new, we don't know his history and people are just curious as to why the attitude.
Thank you for writing and setting the posts straight. I do appreciate that. But I really don't see Liz as being the only one to be stirring up trouble this time.
My opinion! Hope your evening/morning goes good too.
Clancy
I just saw things coming from him that I thought unfair. I always think people need compassion at the beginning of recovery. That is my stand. It seemed that our posts were being confused and Marie got me going in the right direction.
I don't know that Liz is causing trouble...no more than I see this new Kiwi guy causing trouble. He's new, we don't know his history and people are just curious as to why the attitude.
Thank you for writing and setting the posts straight. I do appreciate that. But I really don't see Liz as being the only one to be stirring up trouble this time.
My opinion! Hope your evening/morning goes good too.
Clancy
But as I've said Cowgirl, I'm going to just take the advice of your quote that you have on the bottom of all your post. Have a great night.
If you go back and read my original post to him I told him that telling it like it is is a good thing but it can be done with compassion and kindness. That people are thin skinned and vulnerable. That includes treating everyone, including him with compassion.
There are ways to do it without causing more hate and discontent.
I've tried that with Liz, only to have it thrown back in my face. Some just want to be argumentive and only listen to the sound of thier own voice.
I'm trying, but I'm only human and very much new in my own recovery. I don't pretend to know it all, I only know what works for me and that is what most people want to know....
Ok, peace now.
Cowgirl
There are ways to do it without causing more hate and discontent.
I've tried that with Liz, only to have it thrown back in my face. Some just want to be argumentive and only listen to the sound of thier own voice.
I'm trying, but I'm only human and very much new in my own recovery. I don't pretend to know it all, I only know what works for me and that is what most people want to know....
Ok, peace now.
Cowgirl
Listen Cowgirl,
I'm not trying to be argumentive. I've watched this guy put down so many people. He shouldn't be telling anybody anything, especially when he only has 40 days.
Now far as my problem with you, yeah I've had a problem with you ever since I was here and you acted like a friend, but then I go to a different board you never expected me to be at and you were calling me an idiot. Back stabbing, which I don't appreciate.
So to say you have tried to be compassionate and understanding with me is a lie. I don't say things behind other peoples back. If I have something to say I say it to them. Not pretend to be there for them but name calling behind their backs.
I'm not trying to be argumentive. I've watched this guy put down so many people. He shouldn't be telling anybody anything, especially when he only has 40 days.
Now far as my problem with you, yeah I've had a problem with you ever since I was here and you acted like a friend, but then I go to a different board you never expected me to be at and you were calling me an idiot. Back stabbing, which I don't appreciate.
So to say you have tried to be compassionate and understanding with me is a lie. I don't say things behind other peoples back. If I have something to say I say it to them. Not pretend to be there for them but name calling behind their backs.
Cowgirl,
I've got to agree with Liz wholeheartedly on her opinion about this guy and how he treats people. Liz, as I'm sure you have noticed, cannot stand for anyone to be picked on when they first come to this board. I agree, that these people must be treated with love and affection. You and Kiwi obviously see it differently.
My 15 yrs. give me superiority in the clean time dept. over you and Kiwi and I think the newbies deserve respect. That is all I want and that is all I think Liz is saying. Treat these people with respect cause it takes guts to type that first confession onto that little box in the computer.
You should really give Liz a chance. You have a really wrong impression of her. You admitted that we got off on the wrong foot. Obviously the same goes for you and Liz. She is a decent, kind person. I wish that you would reach out to her and realize that you are wrong where your opinion of her is concerned.
This new guy comes on and says all these mean things to new people, "get off the pity pot" and I never once heard Liz EVER say anything but helpful advice to someone looking for help on this board.
Food for thought. Think it through before you reply. She is a really wonderful person.
Clancy
I've got to agree with Liz wholeheartedly on her opinion about this guy and how he treats people. Liz, as I'm sure you have noticed, cannot stand for anyone to be picked on when they first come to this board. I agree, that these people must be treated with love and affection. You and Kiwi obviously see it differently.
My 15 yrs. give me superiority in the clean time dept. over you and Kiwi and I think the newbies deserve respect. That is all I want and that is all I think Liz is saying. Treat these people with respect cause it takes guts to type that first confession onto that little box in the computer.
You should really give Liz a chance. You have a really wrong impression of her. You admitted that we got off on the wrong foot. Obviously the same goes for you and Liz. She is a decent, kind person. I wish that you would reach out to her and realize that you are wrong where your opinion of her is concerned.
This new guy comes on and says all these mean things to new people, "get off the pity pot" and I never once heard Liz EVER say anything but helpful advice to someone looking for help on this board.
Food for thought. Think it through before you reply. She is a really wonderful person.
Clancy
Carrie,,,,,uh I mean Clancy,
Have you read Liz's posts when she came to this board? And you say that people should not be attacked but you attack Kiwi. Please, you contradict yourself all the time, as does Liz. I think you both are here for nothing except to stir up trouble. No need to jump down Cowgirls throat and then act all innocent and be on your high horse. Anyone can see right thru the both of you. If you want to attack someone, hell, I'm here, go for it.
Have you read Liz's posts when she came to this board? And you say that people should not be attacked but you attack Kiwi. Please, you contradict yourself all the time, as does Liz. I think you both are here for nothing except to stir up trouble. No need to jump down Cowgirls throat and then act all innocent and be on your high horse. Anyone can see right thru the both of you. If you want to attack someone, hell, I'm here, go for it.
If you notice Sharon, I RARELY post on here, unlike many others,I only say something when I feel the need. You seem to post only when you feel like you have to run to the aid of a "friend" you feel is being attacked. It happens every time. But that is not why I am going to respond to your post.
If you read my post then you would have read that I did mention that this was not like me and that I was going against the peace and love and understanding that I normally try and follow...that there was just something about this persons way of dealing with new people on the board that got to me. I did explain myself, all you had to do was do a little reading.
I don't feel like this is even necessary for me to be commenting on since you were not involved in the original conversation, but that is once again one of your modus operandae (boy did I ever mispell that). Don't know why you feel the need to get involved in every elses discussions. Maybe things would clear up faster and people would move on quicker without constant aggitators.
To everyone else on the board, I'm sorry, it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet this morning...I'm not normally this short. Everyone just is pushing the old buttons lately. Will go back into my "cave" where I belong, but will pop out again if I feel someone is being rude and unfair to a new person for sure.
Clancy
If you read my post then you would have read that I did mention that this was not like me and that I was going against the peace and love and understanding that I normally try and follow...that there was just something about this persons way of dealing with new people on the board that got to me. I did explain myself, all you had to do was do a little reading.
I don't feel like this is even necessary for me to be commenting on since you were not involved in the original conversation, but that is once again one of your modus operandae (boy did I ever mispell that). Don't know why you feel the need to get involved in every elses discussions. Maybe things would clear up faster and people would move on quicker without constant aggitators.
To everyone else on the board, I'm sorry, it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet this morning...I'm not normally this short. Everyone just is pushing the old buttons lately. Will go back into my "cave" where I belong, but will pop out again if I feel someone is being rude and unfair to a new person for sure.
Clancy
Clancy. Carrie.... Whats going on here???? If Sharon is insuating what I think she is, then I want NO PART of any of this. I've obviously been suckered in one time (I've seen proof) . Yes, it is strange that "Clancy" all the sudden popped up here, now isnt it? I really hope I am wrong - forgive me if I am - but I have learned ALOT of new things about someone that has hurt me deeply. I do not know WHO to trust anymore. Lets say I know WHO not to.
Marie
I'm going to try to lay down for a little while to get some sleep since I did not sleep a wink after learning what I learned last night. It makes me ill.
Marie
I'm going to try to lay down for a little while to get some sleep since I did not sleep a wink after learning what I learned last night. It makes me ill.
Marie,
If you are the Marie from Sebring FL then I have spoken to you on here before. I am NOT Carrie and I have never spoken to Carrie. Maybe it is weird that I showed up all of a sudden, but that's because as I said before, I felt this person was too harsh in his way of dealing with people. Do I speak like Carrie??? Usually you can tell, I'm guessing that I sound like Clancy! Cause that is who I am!
And if this is Marie from Florida, yes hon, you are wrong...and you have not been suckered. This is Clancy. Ok? I hate when these "conspiracy theories" get thrown out there like this!! There are a few people on here that do the nuttiest things to get people going.
Marie, it just really bothers me, because you came on this board about the same time that I started reading here. You had just come on and were just beginning your battle with w/d. I was so impressed by you and then by you and Rhonda, you are both such sweet people. You treat people the way they intend to be treated! And look at all of the love and respect you receive in return for it.
Maybe I messed up by posting this time, but I couldn't just keep my mouth shut anymore.
Take care,
Clancy (and I am Clancy!)
If you are the Marie from Sebring FL then I have spoken to you on here before. I am NOT Carrie and I have never spoken to Carrie. Maybe it is weird that I showed up all of a sudden, but that's because as I said before, I felt this person was too harsh in his way of dealing with people. Do I speak like Carrie??? Usually you can tell, I'm guessing that I sound like Clancy! Cause that is who I am!
And if this is Marie from Florida, yes hon, you are wrong...and you have not been suckered. This is Clancy. Ok? I hate when these "conspiracy theories" get thrown out there like this!! There are a few people on here that do the nuttiest things to get people going.
Marie, it just really bothers me, because you came on this board about the same time that I started reading here. You had just come on and were just beginning your battle with w/d. I was so impressed by you and then by you and Rhonda, you are both such sweet people. You treat people the way they intend to be treated! And look at all of the love and respect you receive in return for it.
Maybe I messed up by posting this time, but I couldn't just keep my mouth shut anymore.
Take care,
Clancy (and I am Clancy!)
