As you know I have been taking 20 + percs a day almost two years. Yesterday I took 30 mg of morphine and only 1 1/2 perc, Im quite sure that 1 1/2 didnt do much cause it takes at least 3 1 /2 - 5 for me now but it either kept the egde off or maybe the wds dont start til today all I know is yesterday I felt tired, a little achy, but hopeful. Today Im feeling SOOOO tired, I went to sleep at 7pm last night and dint wake up til 11a today. My eyes are so swollen and my body feels like a truck ran over me. Good thing is I touched my 'tylenol' bottle with the last of my pills and didnt take em. I told myself if its this bad now then when it gets even worse maybe I can take just one to get the edge off then. Im waiting for the worst and praying this IS the worst .. when its over I can just get rid of that bottle. I dunno .. just felt the need to post.. I feel so achy.
Hang in there. You sound like you have a plan for now. Maybe a meeting or counseling will be in your future as well as mine. For now stay focused on getting through this rough period. It won't last forever. I am right there with you, lack of energy is the worse. I feel so guilty that I have so much to do and feel achy. I took 2 midol and they really helped take the edge off. After all it's a PMS pill. Comtrex Cold and flu works pretty good too. If you need to talk I am here for you---Rae
Thanks Rae, I think since its almost nap time for my kids Im going to lay down with them .. take a hot bath first .. maybe that will help. Sad thing is its Sunday and HAVE to go to the laundry mat or everyone goes to school naked. How Im going to left those dang bags I dunno! Maybe instead of doing it ALL Ill just do just enouph to get us through 2-3 days. Funny the dreaded laundry is something I actually enjoyed high. I have some motrin 800's maybe Ill take that too. Uhg .. Ima try but not promise. I hate the damages I caused using .. carlessness, spending wildly, no consiquences .. but I also hate 'waking up' and feeling them all now. I need to sleep and hopefully wake up on the other side of the bed! Im in such a bad mood. Off to the tub I go! Ill check back in later tho
Singlemom, i haven't been posting here lately,so do to some medical problems, but my heart goes out to you, i'll keep you in my prayers, but just don't give up, when your about to look at those little faces that need you so much, you can do this! If, ever you need to talk or just need a friend, feel free to e-mail anytime, at etraceybird@aol, i'am not clean by no means but still trying, i've got some medical problems that i got to fix, them it will be my turn to start my method! Good luck and have a great Sunday!!! Abby
Hello,
The worst is usually day 3 or day 4 of cold turkey and you will probably feel mostly really crappy for 7-10 days. After that its all the other symptoms and mental issues you need to deal with.
Strange how 1 tiny little pill controls your life so much ehh?
The worst is usually day 3 or day 4 of cold turkey and you will probably feel mostly really crappy for 7-10 days. After that its all the other symptoms and mental issues you need to deal with.
Strange how 1 tiny little pill controls your life so much ehh?
Hi Single mom....
Hang in there. I found that comtrex, the nighttime cold and flu worked for me in helping with withdrawls. Also, hot baths, and staying busy as much as possible.
Good luck, and it won't last forever.
kerry
Hang in there. I found that comtrex, the nighttime cold and flu worked for me in helping with withdrawls. Also, hot baths, and staying busy as much as possible.
Good luck, and it won't last forever.
kerry
Kerry, you arent kiddding I dont think a bath has felt that good in all my life. The wd's suck like hell but I guess the good thing is the massages and bathes are so intensified. I got this massager the other day at wal-mart .. I already had in mind I would be going through hell in a few days. Anyway this massager has a bunch of lil medal prongs and you can massage your head and all over really. I get goos bumps with it. I paid my 11 yr old to sit and do my back for me. Ive been paying him to do just about everything. He is a good kid and probably wouldve done it for free but I figure he deserves the reward, he has been through hell. Im also finding that shopping on ebay keeps my mind off it a bit, and comming here is helping the most. Thanks for the support.. I dont feel so alone.
Im going to post a pic of my baby in a bit .. got resize it an all that first tho. She and my boys are my life.
Im going to post a pic of my baby in a bit .. got resize it an all that first tho. She and my boys are my life.
I was in your shoes....I was alone, with kids, and after 3 years of vicoden, building up to over 20 a day, I was a mess....I had to do inpatient. I really wish I had known about sub then. But if you can make it through without it, I would really recommend that. I couldn't; I was really sick. But you can do this.
The other thing with all of your stress, you are gona need some support. I actually relapsed, and it was because I was mad at my situation, and work and stress just took me out. But take it from me, once you get clean, the pills just don't work like they used to; it is a complete waste to get clean and go back. But the mental part will kick in, so be prepared....
Where are you? I mean, what state?
It will get better, and it is good that your son understands..
kerry
The other thing with all of your stress, you are gona need some support. I actually relapsed, and it was because I was mad at my situation, and work and stress just took me out. But take it from me, once you get clean, the pills just don't work like they used to; it is a complete waste to get clean and go back. But the mental part will kick in, so be prepared....
Where are you? I mean, what state?
It will get better, and it is good that your son understands..
kerry
YOU CAN DO THIS, STAY STRONG
mom, if i am right i read that you are 31 and have kids all around the ages of mine?
I am 32 and have a 13 year old boy, and two girls, 6 and almost 4 now..
Kerry
I am 32 and have a 13 year old boy, and two girls, 6 and almost 4 now..
Kerry
Singlemom, when is the last time you've taken a pill?
For me, days 3-5 were the worst once you quit taking the pills.... It takes 3 days to fully get the opiate out of your system, so on the first two days, your body still has a little bit in there.
When I quit cold turkey last September, I had a lot of pills in the house..... and I would tell myself "If it gets bad, you can take one." Every time I would start feeling like crap, I would think "Can I wait one more hour before I take something?" It helped me just knowing if it DID get to be too hard to handle, that I could take something to make it better....
Then, by the time it DID get bad (days 3-5), I had gone that long without taking anything and didn't want to have to start back from square one.
Baths will be your best friend.... Take as many hot, hot baths as you need to. Take the Motrin 800 if you have to. Cold and flu medicine works great and benadryl helps for most people with sleep (I can't take it.... it gives me restless legs and makes my body actually jump). Try not to take too much tylenol because pain pill addicts usually do a lot of damage to their liver (from all the tylenol in the percocet and vicodin), and you don't want to cause any more problems....
You can do this, I know you can.....
Danielle
For me, days 3-5 were the worst once you quit taking the pills.... It takes 3 days to fully get the opiate out of your system, so on the first two days, your body still has a little bit in there.
When I quit cold turkey last September, I had a lot of pills in the house..... and I would tell myself "If it gets bad, you can take one." Every time I would start feeling like crap, I would think "Can I wait one more hour before I take something?" It helped me just knowing if it DID get to be too hard to handle, that I could take something to make it better....
Then, by the time it DID get bad (days 3-5), I had gone that long without taking anything and didn't want to have to start back from square one.
Baths will be your best friend.... Take as many hot, hot baths as you need to. Take the Motrin 800 if you have to. Cold and flu medicine works great and benadryl helps for most people with sleep (I can't take it.... it gives me restless legs and makes my body actually jump). Try not to take too much tylenol because pain pill addicts usually do a lot of damage to their liver (from all the tylenol in the percocet and vicodin), and you don't want to cause any more problems....
You can do this, I know you can.....
Danielle
Is morphine got the same stuff in it as vicodens, what i'am trying to ask can a person get addicted to just one type of pain med or do they all have the same stuff in it and work the same? That doesn't sound right, hope you know what i'am trying to ask. Say for insist, i take vicoden, if i switch to loratab or something else would i go through w/d until i get use to that drug? Just wondering, i'am not thinking about switching just being curious, hope i didn't sound too dum!
Abby, there all basically the same in the fact that there all opiates and are addicting. Some are harder to come off than others due to their potency.
Morphine is more potent than vicoden. Once I got hooked on percs a couple vicoden didnt do a thing for me, its like I took an aspirin.
How you doing by the way, sorry if you mentioned but I've been away for a week
JohnDee
Morphine is more potent than vicoden. Once I got hooked on percs a couple vicoden didnt do a thing for me, its like I took an aspirin.
How you doing by the way, sorry if you mentioned but I've been away for a week
JohnDee
You asked what state Im in ... Misery .. litterally both states (mind and physical addy) yes I do mean Missouri. lol.. and yeah, thats kinda what Im doing with the keeping around 'just in case it gets too bad'. the last time I took anything was actually yesterday, but not even 1/4 of what I am use to. Today I broke down and took 1/4 of even yesterdays amount... that means I have only taken 1 perc.. it did seem to help... but normally even 3 wouldnt do crap for me. I think I psyched myself out thinking I needed just that one so I could get laundry done. Which needing to get it done was true or the kids go naked. My 11 yr old thinks I am just not feeling well, which is the truth. My kids have no clue why.. just that I probably have some bug. The bath has helped and like I said the massager. Just frustrating.. specially to know theres more comming
Rae- how many days is it for you? Just wondering if youve already passed where Im at .. what was the worst for you?
It isn't easy mom, but stay strong. I got on suboxone because I knew that I couldn't handle the withdrawls. But I will probably get shot for this. But maybe misty will come along later and get you a link to a physician locator to see if there is someone in your area that can prescribe it for you. It is a med that helps with the withdrawls. I am taking it now, and feel okay. I know that I have to stop taking this also, but alot of people don't seem to have a problem tapering off of this med. It doesn't help with the mental part, that is still there for me. But everyone is different..
Hang tough, and you can do it....
Kerry
Hang tough, and you can do it....
Kerry
Thanks Kerry.. Im trying. I am going to see about the sub. Ive been reading alot on here and see that, that is a really touchy subject for most and really hope it doesnt cause another reaction. Not to be mean but Im really trying to look for help and when someone reaches out for help.. which in itself is really hard.. they dont want it to turn into that. No offense but my very first post 2 days ago turned into that and I kinda wondered if maybe I came to the wrong place for advise. I hope that nobody gets upset here but this board is really my only support for the moment and Im sure others will come just like me. I hope arguements dont push anyone else away like it almost did me. I came back tho cause I didnt know where else to turn besides back to my enemy (perc). So I am begging anyone who replies here to only post things that can help me .. positive feedback only. I appreciate feedback both good and bad .. just no offending people or putting them down for the road they choose. I am concidering for sub for the moment and here is why .. I am single, with 3 children. If sub can help me get off the percs and still inable me to take care of my kids (for their safety) and sleeping all day while they can get into anything is not safe.. then why not? Its better than not being able to handle this wd.. and fearing I will just reach back into that bottle.. then it is a better route.. I hear sub is something you have to come off of too but at least it would be under a Drs care and monitored.. the percs nobody but me monitors .. and all I seemed to do was monitor how many is left and when to refill. Anyhow, thanks for listening
singlemom,
i was detoxed off, pain pills, benzo's and muscle relaxers all at the same time through the help of a detox dr. who only prescrined me non narcotic meds to help ease my w/d symptems. i took the non narcotic meds i think for 5 days, then i was done. you can call the number on the back of your insurance card it you have insurance and they can help you find a detow dr. as another option.i also have two kids i had to care for. not as small as yours but i still ahd to be a mom. you know how we mom's never get time off ;)
terrianne
i was detoxed off, pain pills, benzo's and muscle relaxers all at the same time through the help of a detox dr. who only prescrined me non narcotic meds to help ease my w/d symptems. i took the non narcotic meds i think for 5 days, then i was done. you can call the number on the back of your insurance card it you have insurance and they can help you find a detow dr. as another option.i also have two kids i had to care for. not as small as yours but i still ahd to be a mom. you know how we mom's never get time off ;)
terrianne
i geuss i should have mentioned i was taking prolly in the range of 30-40 pills a day combonation of all 3 at the same time
terrianne
terrianne
terrianne, so what kind of non narcs did they give you? I would be so happy if I could find something non-addictive that would help with the wds .. and when you taper down does it actually help with the wd? I mean for the past two days I have cut down to nearly nothing .. but is it going to actually make a difference .. say if someone were to taper down to just 1-2 a day then when they go ct do they go through the same wds.. the sleeping mostly?
