Hey everyone:
I'm so sick of not sleeping. I've dealt with insomnia my whole life, practically. Problems seem worse at 3:00 a.m. It seems like I'm the only one awake in the world. My mind starts obsessing. I feel more alone in those wee hours than I ever do. They started giving me stuff to help me sleep when I was pretty young, Restoril, Dalmane, halicon. Halcion was strange, you wouldn't even remember going to bed. I used to drink a lot in those days, so the mixture wasn't pretty, not to mention unsafe. In between binge drinking, my hangovers were so horendous, I wouldn't sleep for days and I'd start feeling so bizarre, paranoid even. That feeling of impending doom. Worrying about what I did, what I said...ultimately, all of that is what stopped me from drinking. I couldn't handle the feelings after. It made me hate myself. So, I quit. I went to see a shrink for the panic attacks, depression, self-hatred, insomnia, etc. It turned out I couldn't have picked a better (or worse) Dr. Feelgood. I would look things up in the PDR and he'd prescribe them for me. Heavy duty stuff like - seconal, tuinal, placadyl, Dorien. Good thing I wasn't drinking too or I'd be dead. My ex hated him and thought he was a quack, considered him to be my pusher. All true. I also developed ovarian cysts around this time so was being prescribed pain pills - no wonder I wasn't drinking, I didn't need to! The Ob/gyn was prescribing a drug called fiorinal #3. It had codeine, butabital (its like phenobarb), caffeine, acetaminophen, they quickly became my best friend. It's like they filled this void in me so perfectly. I was energetic, yet calm, more outgoing than I usually am, I just felt great. It became such an addiction for years. The ironic thing is, friends - who had been concerned about my drinking - were so happy I wasn't drinking - praised me constantly. How good I looked, how sharp my wit, how entertaining, etc. This reinforced - to me, at least - that I was missing something from my personality, and drugs filled it.
I have drifted far from my original topic, but thank you for letting me vent. I need to get off the computer for now but I'll write more later. This writing here and reading what others have written, helps me in so many ways.
Buh-bye!
You gotta sleep at least sometime. Do you sleep during the day? I'm only asking to offer proper advice. When, even if little do you sleep? - Chris
Lola-
Oh, Do I sympathize with the insomnia. I am sorry you are going through this as well.
We should start a late night chat :)
I have had sleeping probs (insomnia) off and on, since I was around 13 yrs or so. I would go nights with no sleep and then crash for a night or so finally when my body could not take anymore. So, I guess I cant blame it on the sub really now that I think about it..............It comes and goes in spells. Right now it is pretty severe. I was playing around on the web until about 3:45 am or so, So I guess that is bad. It will diminish slowly surely, always does, for a while at least.
I hope your day is good, we actually saw some gorgeous sunshine, the feeling of it on your face................ahhhhhhhhhhh
Big Hugs.
EDIT to add*******Hey Chris, How you feeling? I am in your corner always. Hugs.
Oh, Do I sympathize with the insomnia. I am sorry you are going through this as well.
We should start a late night chat :)
I have had sleeping probs (insomnia) off and on, since I was around 13 yrs or so. I would go nights with no sleep and then crash for a night or so finally when my body could not take anymore. So, I guess I cant blame it on the sub really now that I think about it..............It comes and goes in spells. Right now it is pretty severe. I was playing around on the web until about 3:45 am or so, So I guess that is bad. It will diminish slowly surely, always does, for a while at least.
I hope your day is good, we actually saw some gorgeous sunshine, the feeling of it on your face................ahhhhhhhhhhh
Big Hugs.
EDIT to add*******Hey Chris, How you feeling? I am in your corner always. Hugs.
I suffered from insomnia forever. Decades always have to take something. I found a drug called seroquel.
I am not sure of your health but he drug does work for insomnia. at least for me. Sadly I cant get off it and it has bad side effects.
All my doctors have told me sleep is the most important thing along with diet and exercise.. Without sleep I am totally screwed.
So I have to deal with the side effects. Just like the prednisone for me to sleep and deal with my pain and asthma and other health issues.
Its all about trying to take the least amount of these poisons until I am in a position to try and get of all the poison.
Until then I take the seroquel and sleep like a baby.
Have you ever tried it? If you do remember its dangerous messes with the blood --Google it.
You must sleep no matter what. I am very sorry your not sleeping and I am suggesting you takwe poison. Its the only thing that ever helped me sleep. 2+yrs have weaned but stuck at 100mg Maybe you can try a small dose it starts in increments of 25 mg
Trazadone you ever try? Heard it works well for some-again Google it--
Dalmane?? LOL that my first one as I was skin popping adrenalin 3 times a day and could not sleep. 1976 0r 2007?
The answer is a pill.
They gave me Valium Saw your list and I tried them all. and others.Halcyon was like acid.
Anyway I feel for you.
Take care --Jeff
I am not sure of your health but he drug does work for insomnia. at least for me. Sadly I cant get off it and it has bad side effects.
All my doctors have told me sleep is the most important thing along with diet and exercise.. Without sleep I am totally screwed.
So I have to deal with the side effects. Just like the prednisone for me to sleep and deal with my pain and asthma and other health issues.
Its all about trying to take the least amount of these poisons until I am in a position to try and get of all the poison.
Until then I take the seroquel and sleep like a baby.
Have you ever tried it? If you do remember its dangerous messes with the blood --Google it.
You must sleep no matter what. I am very sorry your not sleeping and I am suggesting you takwe poison. Its the only thing that ever helped me sleep. 2+yrs have weaned but stuck at 100mg Maybe you can try a small dose it starts in increments of 25 mg
Trazadone you ever try? Heard it works well for some-again Google it--
Dalmane?? LOL that my first one as I was skin popping adrenalin 3 times a day and could not sleep. 1976 0r 2007?
The answer is a pill.
They gave me Valium Saw your list and I tried them all. and others.Halcyon was like acid.
Anyway I feel for you.
Take care --Jeff
Jeff-
So the Seroquel does work well for you? There is not a tolerance effect over time? I guess there would have to be.
My dr. has me on an anti anxiety med for sleep, but I am thinking of switching to something else, its not working well at all.
Were the side effects really bad? or tolerable?
Just thinking on this.
So good to see you around..............Missed ya.
Hugs, Big ones :)
So the Seroquel does work well for you? There is not a tolerance effect over time? I guess there would have to be.
My dr. has me on an anti anxiety med for sleep, but I am thinking of switching to something else, its not working well at all.
Were the side effects really bad? or tolerable?
Just thinking on this.
So good to see you around..............Missed ya.
Hugs, Big ones :)
I am borderline diabetic because of the prednisone. The serequel has side effects FOR ME especially. I have weaned down to 100 from 300 mg. I was a mess in June of 2004. I do not compare my story to anyone else's. All i can tell you is June 2004? first 3 months ? I was so messed up. I had to sleep and calm down
I was on high amount s of many drugs. My first 3 months I needed something to offset all the drugs I had taken. For 4+yrs I daily just consumed a boatload of junk and messed up my brain. The serequell was needed to help slow me down.
But today i am accepting the fact that I am not getting off it. I tried and totally flipped out one night. That was it.
I am on prednisone this i s a mood altering med seroquel is used for insomnia but is a VERY STRONG drug. I am kind of screwed as I must sleep. So I take it and use Viytorin to keep the cholesterol in check and I give up eating 75 % of what I like though lately ? eating like a pig--both meds prednisone and seroquel increase appetite--
I would take it if your blood is normal and maybe a low dose will work. The stuff knocks the crap out of you.
WOW
Jeff
I was on high amount s of many drugs. My first 3 months I needed something to offset all the drugs I had taken. For 4+yrs I daily just consumed a boatload of junk and messed up my brain. The serequell was needed to help slow me down.
But today i am accepting the fact that I am not getting off it. I tried and totally flipped out one night. That was it.
I am on prednisone this i s a mood altering med seroquel is used for insomnia but is a VERY STRONG drug. I am kind of screwed as I must sleep. So I take it and use Viytorin to keep the cholesterol in check and I give up eating 75 % of what I like though lately ? eating like a pig--both meds prednisone and seroquel increase appetite--
I would take it if your blood is normal and maybe a low dose will work. The stuff knocks the crap out of you.
WOW
Jeff
Good to see you to Java
Sleep well--Jeff
Sleep well--Jeff
Jeff-
Good to see you as well, There is nothing wrong with having to be on a medication for life, when it really helps with one's quality of life.
My god, you have to sleep.
Sleep Tight, Dont let the bed bugs bite.................Say a prayer for me for some sleep lol I am gonna need it.
Hugs
Good to see you as well, There is nothing wrong with having to be on a medication for life, when it really helps with one's quality of life.
My god, you have to sleep.
Sleep Tight, Dont let the bed bugs bite.................Say a prayer for me for some sleep lol I am gonna need it.
Hugs
I feel so bad for all of you with the sleep problems.I did have a little problem with it when i first came off the pp's,but thankfully i am sleeping well now,in fact,to well.Im tired all the time!
But my poor husband went months without sleep,i mean next to none! He was suicidal. He would sit up all night and watch tv,he would be so so tired,and feel he was ready for bed,get in bed,then feel he was choking.
They ended up doing sleep apnea test and found out some things and have treated it.He also has restless leg syndrom which keeps not only him but me awake,Requip works absolute wonders for him there.
Ive seen him walk around in a daze,like a zombie,barely functioning because of sleep deprivation.I pray you all find something that will work for you.You need rest in order to function.Good luck to all of you.~KIM
But my poor husband went months without sleep,i mean next to none! He was suicidal. He would sit up all night and watch tv,he would be so so tired,and feel he was ready for bed,get in bed,then feel he was choking.
They ended up doing sleep apnea test and found out some things and have treated it.He also has restless leg syndrom which keeps not only him but me awake,Requip works absolute wonders for him there.
Ive seen him walk around in a daze,like a zombie,barely functioning because of sleep deprivation.I pray you all find something that will work for you.You need rest in order to function.Good luck to all of you.~KIM
Lola...
I have serious periods of insominia. I was also a drinker and a drug addict. I take Melatonin to help me sleep. Good luck.
Deirdre
I have serious periods of insominia. I was also a drinker and a drug addict. I take Melatonin to help me sleep. Good luck.
Deirdre
Hey Dierdre.
Good to see you.
I have Melatonin as well............I have been trying it also. I am wondering does this have to build up in the system to get the effect? Or do you get the full benefits on first dosage?
Glad its helping you.
How many do you take per night?
Good to see you.
I have Melatonin as well............I have been trying it also. I am wondering does this have to build up in the system to get the effect? Or do you get the full benefits on first dosage?
Glad its helping you.
How many do you take per night?
Hi to everyone!
Thanks for all the responses, I had a sneaking feeling I was not the only one not sleeping! Sequenal (sp) I've never heard of, what family of drugs is it in? I hve tried Trazadone but that made me crazy - after I took it I immediately had to lie down, forget it if I had to try to walk or talk anytime soon after taking it. Lately I've been on amitripiline (elavil) a small dose. 50 mg. It's an old-fashioned antit-depressamt with sedating properties. It works for a short while, I take it in conjuction with melatonin, advil PM,, and either Lunesta, Ambien, or restoril, not to mention the Lortab & Soma for my leg pain. In spite of all that, although I fall asleep somewhat easily, I usually wake up between 1:00 a.m. - 4:00 a.m., wide awake. I don;t want to become too dependent on yet another drug, but I do need to sleep, I seem to take less Lortab when I get enough sleep.
Thanks for all the responses, I had a sneaking feeling I was not the only one not sleeping! Sequenal (sp) I've never heard of, what family of drugs is it in? I hve tried Trazadone but that made me crazy - after I took it I immediately had to lie down, forget it if I had to try to walk or talk anytime soon after taking it. Lately I've been on amitripiline (elavil) a small dose. 50 mg. It's an old-fashioned antit-depressamt with sedating properties. It works for a short while, I take it in conjuction with melatonin, advil PM,, and either Lunesta, Ambien, or restoril, not to mention the Lortab & Soma for my leg pain. In spite of all that, although I fall asleep somewhat easily, I usually wake up between 1:00 a.m. - 4:00 a.m., wide awake. I don;t want to become too dependent on yet another drug, but I do need to sleep, I seem to take less Lortab when I get enough sleep.
Have your blood checked discuss with your doctor and try seroquel if your blood work is okay Google it -it will solve your insomnia in all probability.
Good luck-Jeff
Good luck-Jeff
So the answer is a pill? Jeff Am I reading this right....ambien, seroquel....etc...etc. No wonder I almost died getting advice here. Seroquel is a very strong drug they gave me...an anti-psychotic I believe. I was lambasted for tapering down and staying on a low dose of xanax (just to avoid seizures) and all these drugs for sleep are being recommended. Unbelievable. HELLO! They are also addicting and habit forming. Jeff...can you say HYPOCRITICAL???? Dangerous advice on this board...no one here is a Dr. and we are all different. BTW Jeff...I am not overly sensitive and I DID take your advice and went to a sub Dr....guess it wasn't the answer? I almost had kidney failure from it and my liver enzymes are still high. No one reacts the same. Either this board is against habit-forming drugs or it isn't. Which is it? This is really a mess.Sad. Sharonn Also...if prednisone has done so much harm to your health why do you recommend it? Maybe you should suggest "Lots of sex" like you did to me on the phone. Now THAT's real advice....puh-leeze
Sharon,Glad to see you posting again. How are you? Shantel
Hi Shantell...I am much bettter,,,had to go back on the oxy...have already weaned down to 30 mgs a day(from 60-80) I am just pissed off(not at you hon_ have a good night, Love, S
WTF is your problem lady? I am really sick of being attacked.
Poor Poor Sharon. Your pathetic. I am sick of trying help and then getting blasted. Have a nice life.
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So the answer is a pill? Jeff Am I reading this right....ambien
I never mentioned ambien WTF is your problem?
, seroquel....etc...etc Sharon your clueless. You must sleep. You do what you feel is right for you but how dare you attack me lady? Hugh? I wasted my time trying to help you but its POOR SHARON and until you stop feeling sorry for yourself and saying you cant do this and you cant do that you will remain in your Hell.
Serequel and suboxone gave me my life back.
. No wonder I almost died getting advice here.
Blaming ME or others? Your quite Ill. Told you belong in a rehab where you could get help. That's dangerous?
Seroquel is a very strong drug they gave me...an anti-psychotic I believe. You believe You should know what your taking. I am in a situation where I have decided to LIVE rather than be in some depressed hell-so i take the prednisone smallest amount and seroquel. THATS MY PLAN LADY
I was lambasted for tapering down and staying on a low dose of xanax Come again Sharon? I di not even know you were on xanax. How the Puck do you go on suboxone while on Xanax without being monitored by a doctor? In a hospital Like anybody with a brain? But you walked out with a script and certain people voiced there concerns
-BY me?? SHARON? You seem to have all these feelings that you are bad if your on drugs. I have no clue where your coming from. I told you need to find the right amount of meds to fight your lupus and pain
(just to avoid seizures) and all these drugs for sleep are being recommended. Unbelievable. HELLO! They are also addicting and habit forming. Jeff...can you say HYPOCRITICAL???? Dangerous advice on this board...no one here is a Dr. and we are all different. BTW Jeff. NO SHHEET SHERLOCK
..I am not overly sensitive You are totally over sensitive. Yhe wind blows and you go off.
and I DID take your advice and went to a sub Dr....guess it wasn't the answer? I almost had kidney failure from it and my liver enzymes are still high. No on reacts the same. Either this board is against habit-forming drugs or it isn't. Which is it? This is really a mess.Sad. Sharonn Also...if prednisone has done so much harm to your health why do you recommend it? Maybe you should suggest "Lots of sex" like you did to me on the phone. Now That's real advice....puh-leeze
WTF is wrong with Sex? Wow talk about being wound up Man??
Sub Doctor? you call what you did going to a sub doctor. I called you out and told you this was dangerous but you went anyway.
Your above statement is asinine. I take 10 mg of prednisone Sharon cause if I dont I will die. You understand dead 6 feet under. Why you felt tonight to rip me a hole?
Well you picked a bad night. I
Where do you get off attacking me. I feel sorry for you as your in hell--Keep blaming others for YOUR problems . You will get very far.
God I pray someone helps you.
Thanks for the kind words.
Have a nice night Sharon
If this is all mixed up Sorry but I am out of here --try to help someone and get this pathetic snivel.
Get a life lady.
Good night Sharon
Poor Poor Sharon. Your pathetic. I am sick of trying help and then getting blasted. Have a nice life.
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So the answer is a pill? Jeff Am I reading this right....ambien
I never mentioned ambien WTF is your problem?
, seroquel....etc...etc Sharon your clueless. You must sleep. You do what you feel is right for you but how dare you attack me lady? Hugh? I wasted my time trying to help you but its POOR SHARON and until you stop feeling sorry for yourself and saying you cant do this and you cant do that you will remain in your Hell.
Serequel and suboxone gave me my life back.
. No wonder I almost died getting advice here.
Blaming ME or others? Your quite Ill. Told you belong in a rehab where you could get help. That's dangerous?
Seroquel is a very strong drug they gave me...an anti-psychotic I believe. You believe You should know what your taking. I am in a situation where I have decided to LIVE rather than be in some depressed hell-so i take the prednisone smallest amount and seroquel. THATS MY PLAN LADY
I was lambasted for tapering down and staying on a low dose of xanax Come again Sharon? I di not even know you were on xanax. How the Puck do you go on suboxone while on Xanax without being monitored by a doctor? In a hospital Like anybody with a brain? But you walked out with a script and certain people voiced there concerns
-BY me?? SHARON? You seem to have all these feelings that you are bad if your on drugs. I have no clue where your coming from. I told you need to find the right amount of meds to fight your lupus and pain
(just to avoid seizures) and all these drugs for sleep are being recommended. Unbelievable. HELLO! They are also addicting and habit forming. Jeff...can you say HYPOCRITICAL???? Dangerous advice on this board...no one here is a Dr. and we are all different. BTW Jeff. NO SHHEET SHERLOCK
..I am not overly sensitive You are totally over sensitive. Yhe wind blows and you go off.
and I DID take your advice and went to a sub Dr....guess it wasn't the answer? I almost had kidney failure from it and my liver enzymes are still high. No on reacts the same. Either this board is against habit-forming drugs or it isn't. Which is it? This is really a mess.Sad. Sharonn Also...if prednisone has done so much harm to your health why do you recommend it? Maybe you should suggest "Lots of sex" like you did to me on the phone. Now That's real advice....puh-leeze
WTF is wrong with Sex? Wow talk about being wound up Man??
Sub Doctor? you call what you did going to a sub doctor. I called you out and told you this was dangerous but you went anyway.
Your above statement is asinine. I take 10 mg of prednisone Sharon cause if I dont I will die. You understand dead 6 feet under. Why you felt tonight to rip me a hole?
Well you picked a bad night. I
Where do you get off attacking me. I feel sorry for you as your in hell--Keep blaming others for YOUR problems . You will get very far.
God I pray someone helps you.
Thanks for the kind words.
Have a nice night Sharon
If this is all mixed up Sorry but I am out of here --try to help someone and get this pathetic snivel.
Get a life lady.
Good night Sharon
Oh Jeff...get over yourself....go back to your post where you stated the answer is a pill. You got one thing right however...I AM a lady...you are not a gentleman however and I rarely get angry or "attack" anyone. BTW...no "poor Sharon" I am grateful to be alive. I don't think prednisone and sub would really save me as you had earlier suggested...maybe what's right for you isn't right for me. And by being defensive...you gave yourself away. Frankly...by some of your comments and sexual reference concerning your past,,,I think you are a bit of a pervert. Please never call my number again. Have a nice night and hopefully this won't be another melodrama for you to thrive on....I wonder why you always seem to be locking horns with people....Hmmmmmmmmmm.You suggested I see a sub Dr...than it turned out the Dr. was bad because he didn't monitor me....like I didn't try. For God's sake Jeff...everything blew up in my face...never good enough for you....your advice taken was still not enough. I'm not wound up...I am so over it. Sick.......very twisted and sick. Beware posters.
Dear Lola I am sorry I just blew a casket. No excuse but last night a bunch of kids decided last night was party time. We had the cops here at 12:45 it was a bummer.
Anyway I hope you understand that the serequel is very dangerous and you need to be monitored by a doctor and should be in therapy if your cant sleep. It helps. I was in therapy for a long time and have worked hard to get my serequell down from a high level of 300.
I do not plan on staying on it forever but though I am angry I am on another drug its sleep or seroquel. I choose sleep. I must work. Pay the bills and take care of my kids.
If I was retired I would go C/T as i firmly believe sooner or later sleep will come without seroquel for me. But not in this stage of my life.
The prednisone I take because my glands that produce natural prednisone shut down in 1976. Due to this and life threatening asthma I was forced to take prednisone.
Why Sharon has decided to go off on some tangent i just wanted you to understand she is totally off base.
I AM NO DOCTOR--I hope you find relief to your insomnia.
Take care --Jeff
Anyway I hope you understand that the serequel is very dangerous and you need to be monitored by a doctor and should be in therapy if your cant sleep. It helps. I was in therapy for a long time and have worked hard to get my serequell down from a high level of 300.
I do not plan on staying on it forever but though I am angry I am on another drug its sleep or seroquel. I choose sleep. I must work. Pay the bills and take care of my kids.
If I was retired I would go C/T as i firmly believe sooner or later sleep will come without seroquel for me. But not in this stage of my life.
The prednisone I take because my glands that produce natural prednisone shut down in 1976. Due to this and life threatening asthma I was forced to take prednisone.
Why Sharon has decided to go off on some tangent i just wanted you to understand she is totally off base.
I AM NO DOCTOR--I hope you find relief to your insomnia.
Take care --Jeff
Just to clarify...I have suffered with insomnia most of my life. I am still trying to get off xanax...one of the worst drugs there are. I have been on seroquel, dalmane, halcion. seconal...you name it. All it ever did was screw up my life. My point........"The answer is a pill"...Sorry Jeff and everyone else...the answer is NOT a pill...it never is,I ought to know. Try melatonin or Calmes Forte....your body will eventually sleep. I do know the torture of it all........but I also know what pills have done to my life. I wish all you sleepless people well. Sharonn
