Sleep with your head facing south.
Rub your stomach counterclockwise.
Get some lavendar and sprinkle the pillow and sheets. I think lavendar is fairly inexpensive.
Check into Feng Shui on line. Little tips about keeping the vibe positive, and energy circulating. Of course I spelled it wrong. This will include removing TV, and computer if possible. Anything electronic shouldn't be in the room where we sleep. If that's not affordable or space is limited let me know and I'll call Oprah and tell her we need some loot for this.
Don't dream or even think of Oprah for pleasant sleep. She's on my poopie list.
That lady wields too much power and has brainwashed an entire nation of chicks. She'll give ya nightmares.
Best of wishes Davey, and maybe someone else has a tip or ten.
Bryn,
Dont go dissing Oprah when her counterpart Dr. Phil is teaching men if they talk real slow, and talk down to people, then everyone thinks he knows what hes talking about.
Davey,
Im a chronic insomniac, the one thing that helps me is Melatonin. Its a natural non-addictive sleep aid that is very safe but should not be used in combination with any MAOI type Anti-Ds. Here in the States we can buy it at most pharmacies or health food stores.
Or just get married, after sex most husbands go to sleep within 5 minutes even if we are still talking AT them.
Dont go dissing Oprah when her counterpart Dr. Phil is teaching men if they talk real slow, and talk down to people, then everyone thinks he knows what hes talking about.
Davey,
Im a chronic insomniac, the one thing that helps me is Melatonin. Its a natural non-addictive sleep aid that is very safe but should not be used in combination with any MAOI type Anti-Ds. Here in the States we can buy it at most pharmacies or health food stores.
Or just get married, after sex most husbands go to sleep within 5 minutes even if we are still talking AT them.
Hey Davey, I'm a bit of a yoga buff. If you can't sleep do a headstand for a few minutes, you can lean against a wall when you do it!. It really does help with the whole sleep thing, I think it must be the way it changes the blood flow. Anyway, it works for me.
Take care.
Karen
Take care.
Karen
Hi, I had vicious insomnia when I came off subs. I was prescribed sleeping tablets but they didn't seem to have any effect, apart from to piss me off more. I'd nod off, and then wake up, thinking that if I looked at the clock and I'd had 3 hours sleep I'd be ecstatic, only to look at the clock and find out that it wasn't even midnight yet, and I'd been asleep for all of 10 mins. So I stopped taking them. My Dr, who's pretty good, said that in all reality, after years of opiate use and abuse, my body just laughed in the face of sedation. I found that the only way I could deal with it was to spend as little time in bed as possible, coz it would just drive me absolutely insane tossing and turning and clockwatching. I didn't use any drug intervention to help me sleep (apart from the meds I am prescribed for my mental illness, Zispin and Seroquel, which I have to say are pretty heavy, but I was on them before I even started my subs reduction, so my body was well used to them by the time I stopped the subs), happy just to catch the odd hour here and there, and watching lots of late night TV. It took about 3 months for my sleep to return to something like normal. I had a blissful period of about 2 months where sleep came easily. Then I fell pregnant, and for the first 4 months had to contend with raging sore boobs which kept me awake most of the night. Then I had a period of about a month where I could sleep again. And then it was having to get up for a pee every couple of hours, and then the baby started her wonderful habit of booting hell out of me all night, and it's impossible to get comfortable when you've got a big pregnant belly, so I'm back to tossing and turning again...
c'est la vie... I don't think it's possible to die from lack of sleep, unless the urge to sleep suddenly hits you full throttle when you're driving down the M4 in the middle of the night...
love
Diff xxx
c'est la vie... I don't think it's possible to die from lack of sleep, unless the urge to sleep suddenly hits you full throttle when you're driving down the M4 in the middle of the night...
love
Diff xxx
Thanks guys...i have always had trouble sleeping but compensated that with smack&benzos.I know i could go to my G.P and get a sleeper but i know in my heart i cannot start poppin pills..so thats not an option.
Diff you mentioned a medication not zispin but the other one,does it work&has it any addictive propertys?
Again thanks to all..to you Mukka Sister#1
Diff you mentioned a medication not zispin but the other one,does it work&has it any addictive propertys?
Again thanks to all..to you Mukka Sister#1
Hi Davey, yeah, Seroquel, to be entirely truthful, it's like a sledgehammer round the head at the doses I take. When I first started taking it, I'd just come off risperidone coz I was having weird side-effects, and I was on 16mgs of subutex. When I took all my prescribed drugs, I'd get a warm rush, and nod out. Actually it gave me a bigger hit than a 20 bag. It took quite a while for me to get a tolerance to them as well. Because I take them for a psychotic disorder, I have to take quite a large dose for it to be "theraputic" - I now take 300mgs a day. I know that Susan, who posts here, did say that her son was prescribed them for sleep when he was coming off heroin. If I remember rightly he was prescribed 25mgs a night, and she said that they knocked him right out and he slept like a log even though he was going through withdrawals.
But be wary. Anti-psychotic drugs all have side-effects, some of them very nasty, and you can't tell if you're going to get them until you try them. I went through a load of different anti-psychs till I found one that I could tolerate. Just to give you an idea, I'll give you a couple of examples of the effects I suffered. The first one I tried gave me Parkinsonism, which is like waking up one morning and finding that you've got end stage Parkinsons disease. I was unable to walk, sit up, straighten my back, lift my head or even stop my eyeballs from rolling to the back of my head. I couldn't even piss without help, and was wracked with endless muscle spasms in every part of my body. Very, very frightening. I had similar but less severe effects from a few of the others I tried. And be warned - sometimes this is irreversible! Risperidone gave me a shock too. I was soaping myself down in the shower one morning, when I saw breastmilk spurting from my nipples! Now this is bad enough for a girl, but I guess it must be even a bigger shock for a lad, and risperidone doesn't care what sex you are!! Breast milk can happen with most of the anti-psychs. Apparantly, anti-psychs are like using a sledghammer to crack a nut. They are supposed to target dopermine receptors, but they're very crude, and can affect a whole load of different brain functions as well, so it's a risky area to stray into.
All this said, the 25 mgs that Susans son was prescribed was more than adequate for getting him to sleep, and it is a very low dose, so unlikely to give you the kind of side-effects I've been talking about. And as for addictiveness, I had no idea that I had a physical dependence on them until I tried to stop taking them. I had bad withdrawals, not dissimilar to heroin withdrawal, and rampant insomnia. After about 7 weeks of trying to get by without them, my obstetrician more or less ordered me to start taking them again, coz I was on the verge of cracking up. But I had been on a fairly high dose, for over 12 months, and I don't think you'd be at risk if you just took a low dose for a period of a month or less.
Look them up on the net. They also known as Quetiapine, and are licensed as a drug for treating schizophrenia.
love
Diff xxx
But be wary. Anti-psychotic drugs all have side-effects, some of them very nasty, and you can't tell if you're going to get them until you try them. I went through a load of different anti-psychs till I found one that I could tolerate. Just to give you an idea, I'll give you a couple of examples of the effects I suffered. The first one I tried gave me Parkinsonism, which is like waking up one morning and finding that you've got end stage Parkinsons disease. I was unable to walk, sit up, straighten my back, lift my head or even stop my eyeballs from rolling to the back of my head. I couldn't even piss without help, and was wracked with endless muscle spasms in every part of my body. Very, very frightening. I had similar but less severe effects from a few of the others I tried. And be warned - sometimes this is irreversible! Risperidone gave me a shock too. I was soaping myself down in the shower one morning, when I saw breastmilk spurting from my nipples! Now this is bad enough for a girl, but I guess it must be even a bigger shock for a lad, and risperidone doesn't care what sex you are!! Breast milk can happen with most of the anti-psychs. Apparantly, anti-psychs are like using a sledghammer to crack a nut. They are supposed to target dopermine receptors, but they're very crude, and can affect a whole load of different brain functions as well, so it's a risky area to stray into.
All this said, the 25 mgs that Susans son was prescribed was more than adequate for getting him to sleep, and it is a very low dose, so unlikely to give you the kind of side-effects I've been talking about. And as for addictiveness, I had no idea that I had a physical dependence on them until I tried to stop taking them. I had bad withdrawals, not dissimilar to heroin withdrawal, and rampant insomnia. After about 7 weeks of trying to get by without them, my obstetrician more or less ordered me to start taking them again, coz I was on the verge of cracking up. But I had been on a fairly high dose, for over 12 months, and I don't think you'd be at risk if you just took a low dose for a period of a month or less.
Look them up on the net. They also known as Quetiapine, and are licensed as a drug for treating schizophrenia.
love
Diff xxx
OPRAH OPRAH OPRAH AND DOCTOR PHIL!!!!!!
HAHAHA, Cynical that's so funny. Right? Does he not talk slowly? We should have told Davey we'll send him footage of ol' Doc Phil. He'll put ya to sleep. Whatever Doc's advice is I go the other way. Besides his wife should know better. What is she doing with him, and WHY is she on that show walking him back and forth.
O.K. rant over. I think Diff had the very best advice aside from marrying a man.
Wait. Davey would be the man. That'd be great. Yeah, Davey that'll put ya to sleep. Marriage.
Diff says spend as least time in the sack as ya can, and this is true. I am WIGGIN if i do that toss and turn. No way can I take that. Good thinking though Davey staying off those sleeping tablets. They can make ya see things. Not a remote car with a hampster though. Hecka nahhhhhh.
Hope you got some winks, Davey. Hang on dude. Hang on.
HAHAHA, Cynical that's so funny. Right? Does he not talk slowly? We should have told Davey we'll send him footage of ol' Doc Phil. He'll put ya to sleep. Whatever Doc's advice is I go the other way. Besides his wife should know better. What is she doing with him, and WHY is she on that show walking him back and forth.
O.K. rant over. I think Diff had the very best advice aside from marrying a man.
Wait. Davey would be the man. That'd be great. Yeah, Davey that'll put ya to sleep. Marriage.
Diff says spend as least time in the sack as ya can, and this is true. I am WIGGIN if i do that toss and turn. No way can I take that. Good thinking though Davey staying off those sleeping tablets. They can make ya see things. Not a remote car with a hampster though. Hecka nahhhhhh.
Hope you got some winks, Davey. Hang on dude. Hang on.
Bryn..marraige..man am i gonna have more sleepness nights over the one day teenager..that i have ..shes 7 goin on 17 sumtimes.The worry over Max&the Bratz pimpmobile has gently faded into a story for when she is 17..in front of her mates as i breakdance round the kitchen floor..oh yesss.Am just in from the long shift 2pm/12pm..and sleep aint an option just yet..but im gonna follow yer advice&change the bedroom around tomm.Im off the ganja as well so its gonna be that bit harder to get right but it will come..as i search for a roach.l.o.l.You have been on top form of late&would just say thanks for all the intel(GYAC) and great laughs....Take care MUKKA SISTA#1
b-
can i just tell you that i friggen love you?! i read your posts and i immediately feel better. if your not counciling addicts and or family members for a living then you should!
d-
can i just tell you that i friggen love you?! i read your posts and i immediately feel better. if your not counciling addicts and or family members for a living then you should!
d-
Danielle,
You mean me? Me as b?
If so I am honored. I'm glad you're feeling a little better at least.
I'm too crazy to be counseling anyone. I can't even get my own act together, but thanks sweetie. I mean I am clean, but I'm still backward. Your going to be O.K. Danielle. Just don't listen to Doc Phil.
Now Davey he's going to be breakdancing in his kitchen in front of his little girls friends when she's a teen. He'll need lots of help so I better get ready to go over to his country. HAHA Is that funny? Breakdancing!
You mean me? Me as b?
If so I am honored. I'm glad you're feeling a little better at least.
I'm too crazy to be counseling anyone. I can't even get my own act together, but thanks sweetie. I mean I am clean, but I'm still backward. Your going to be O.K. Danielle. Just don't listen to Doc Phil.
Now Davey he's going to be breakdancing in his kitchen in front of his little girls friends when she's a teen. He'll need lots of help so I better get ready to go over to his country. HAHA Is that funny? Breakdancing!
I am going to agree with you Bryn. I will let you figure out what I am agreeing with. :)
yes, I mean you Bryn......you make me laugh. it sounds like you have conquered the beast. i know from what i have learned that it's probably the most difficult thing in the world to overcome. (H) i just don't know if i am strong enough to hang in there. i am a single mom and although i love my boyfriend very much....i have enough on my plate. 1 teenager and a 7 year old. when he is here it's like having a third kid to worry about. i honestly can't fall asleep till i know he is down for the count.
i have not heard from him today. it's pay day, so i am sure he did his thing right after work and he is set for the weekend. won't hear from him till he needs me for something. i am worth much more than this treatment. i hope he wakes up and TAKES his life back from this disgusting drug. i am so sick of hearing him say how bad the withdrawls will be. puking and whatever else is involved. stomach cramping, nausea. i watched my 38 year old mother fight through 5 years of chemo. (cervical cancer) i watched how each time she would finish a round it would make her so violenlty ill that she would puke non-stop. this was someone who wanted to live SO BAD. toward the end when the cancer finally won the battle, she got to a point two months before she died that she couldn't even hold her own bowels. she suffered like an animal and died at 43. i'm sorry to say that he as a man should be able to handle a couple weeks of suffering when the outcome is that you WILL SURVIVE!!!! you will have your life back.....my Mom and anyone with cancer has no choice. he has a choice. he made the choice to do this s*** drug. i told him to suck it up and take control of his own destiny. i have no sympathy. i will be there for him if he needs me to hold his hand or to wipe up his vomit or to help him wipe his a**..............whatever it takes. i want him clean and i want my boyfriend back. i just wish he would see it my way for a minute. each time he cops in dangerous neighborhoods, i feel he is one step closer to getting robbed, stabbed, shot or given hot s***. i want the world to stop so i can get off.
thanks for listening and just being you.....it's helped me tremendously!!
xoxo
D
i have not heard from him today. it's pay day, so i am sure he did his thing right after work and he is set for the weekend. won't hear from him till he needs me for something. i am worth much more than this treatment. i hope he wakes up and TAKES his life back from this disgusting drug. i am so sick of hearing him say how bad the withdrawls will be. puking and whatever else is involved. stomach cramping, nausea. i watched my 38 year old mother fight through 5 years of chemo. (cervical cancer) i watched how each time she would finish a round it would make her so violenlty ill that she would puke non-stop. this was someone who wanted to live SO BAD. toward the end when the cancer finally won the battle, she got to a point two months before she died that she couldn't even hold her own bowels. she suffered like an animal and died at 43. i'm sorry to say that he as a man should be able to handle a couple weeks of suffering when the outcome is that you WILL SURVIVE!!!! you will have your life back.....my Mom and anyone with cancer has no choice. he has a choice. he made the choice to do this s*** drug. i told him to suck it up and take control of his own destiny. i have no sympathy. i will be there for him if he needs me to hold his hand or to wipe up his vomit or to help him wipe his a**..............whatever it takes. i want him clean and i want my boyfriend back. i just wish he would see it my way for a minute. each time he cops in dangerous neighborhoods, i feel he is one step closer to getting robbed, stabbed, shot or given hot s***. i want the world to stop so i can get off.
thanks for listening and just being you.....it's helped me tremendously!!
xoxo
D
P.S. does rubbing your stomach counter clockwise actually work?????
Oh, honey not if you're worrying about someone burning the house down or drowning in their own puke.
You have been through it!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sorry about your mom, Danielle. That had to be so painful, and understandably you aren't going to feel bad for a dude.
O.K. teenager, and 7 year old? You got me right there. You are my hero.
I will sing "Wind Beneath My Wings" to yah. Mad respect lady. Three kids, but only worse. Right? Your kids won't sneak out in the middle of the night.
Now I have to storm my pea brain about what Hurt Dad meant. Hey, I am glad I made you laugh a little bit. We should open our own comedy club. That's good you can laugh. You have to.
Thank you, Danielle.
You have been through it!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sorry about your mom, Danielle. That had to be so painful, and understandably you aren't going to feel bad for a dude.
O.K. teenager, and 7 year old? You got me right there. You are my hero.
I will sing "Wind Beneath My Wings" to yah. Mad respect lady. Three kids, but only worse. Right? Your kids won't sneak out in the middle of the night.
Now I have to storm my pea brain about what Hurt Dad meant. Hey, I am glad I made you laugh a little bit. We should open our own comedy club. That's good you can laugh. You have to.
Thank you, Danielle.
