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Jennie,
Hey how are you doing? I have talked to you before. I know there is people that go to AA or Na that are on methadone I am sure of it. It would be a great place for you to go and seek some sort of help with you radditction. I was on methadone for 2 1/2 years and when I went cold turkey off it there was just no way I could have phusically gotten there. Have you started to tapper down on your pill intake any???? Since they last time we spoke??? If so how is it going? Take care and if you need to talk I am here for you! Rachel
Hey how are you doing? I have talked to you before. I know there is people that go to AA or Na that are on methadone I am sure of it. It would be a great place for you to go and seek some sort of help with you radditction. I was on methadone for 2 1/2 years and when I went cold turkey off it there was just no way I could have phusically gotten there. Have you started to tapper down on your pill intake any???? Since they last time we spoke??? If so how is it going? Take care and if you need to talk I am here for you! Rachel
Hello Jennie,
I just wanted to say "hi", and I do know some people that go to AA that are on Methadone. But that is not "for everybody to know", mostly their sponsers. I am so glad that you continue to work with getting off of the methadone and seeking support. I got off of 12 to 13 - 10mg tablets per day (prescribed for pain). I did it, and it was not bad. But there was a process that I did. But I was able to get help and advice from my Family Doctor. I am not sure if you are still tapering down. But my thoughts are with you. It's always nice to see your posts ;o) . Have a good weekend. Take care, Best Wishes
I just wanted to say "hi", and I do know some people that go to AA that are on Methadone. But that is not "for everybody to know", mostly their sponsers. I am so glad that you continue to work with getting off of the methadone and seeking support. I got off of 12 to 13 - 10mg tablets per day (prescribed for pain). I did it, and it was not bad. But there was a process that I did. But I was able to get help and advice from my Family Doctor. I am not sure if you are still tapering down. But my thoughts are with you. It's always nice to see your posts ;o) . Have a good weekend. Take care, Best Wishes
Hi Rachel,
Yes we have talked before, about my dose which is liqiuid from the clinic i haven't started to detox yet. I go to AA now have been now for at least a year.
Now I don't tell anyone that I,m on meth,except for one of my close friends that's in the clinic with me other than that I don't let anyone else know. She also goes to AA.I feel that I can't be honest about my meth because of the judging that they will all do.I know that I only have to answer to my higher power about this but sometimes I feel so alone. I'm going to detox soon hopefully with the help of my doctor also if that will help at all from this monster drug.
write me back it always helps to know someone cares.
Yes we have talked before, about my dose which is liqiuid from the clinic i haven't started to detox yet. I go to AA now have been now for at least a year.
Now I don't tell anyone that I,m on meth,except for one of my close friends that's in the clinic with me other than that I don't let anyone else know. She also goes to AA.I feel that I can't be honest about my meth because of the judging that they will all do.I know that I only have to answer to my higher power about this but sometimes I feel so alone. I'm going to detox soon hopefully with the help of my doctor also if that will help at all from this monster drug.
write me back it always helps to know someone cares.
Jennie,
Yes, you can and should go to A.A. if you feel thats what you need to do. Like the others have said, I'd keep my Methadone use to myself, unless you have someone that you can confide in that won't judge you. It's good to be honest with people unless it would cause ingurey to yourself or others.
I know theres a fine line there but I agree with keeping it to yourself. As long as your honest with yourself.
I'm in A.A. when I first got clean and sober I was on this "Pink Cloud" and I wanted the world to know that I was clean and sober and from now on gonna go above and beyond to make sure I stayed that way, this included telling all of my doctors. That was a big mistake for this alcoholic and addict. Now I'm not saying people shouldn't be honest with there doctors, but for me, it was a big mistake. I have chronic kidney stones, along with a bad back. Now, the bad back i can deal with, but the stones sometimes can be so bad I wanna just die.
Because of my big mouth, I can't get a f---'in asprin from my urologist! That being said, it's not that I would take narcotics around the clock but if I had them I could have my father hold them, whos also in A.A. and could get what I need now and then when it's real bad. I did have a doctor a few months back that met my dad and agreed to this but he turned out to be an a$$hole and I had to go back to the doctor that I started with. It's been hell to say the least. So by being honest, it has actually back fired on me, I've had, for example, 11 surgeries for kidney stones just since July with no meds, not counting the stones I was able to pass on my own at home. Thats rediculous if you ask me. Nobody should have to deal with that, just because of a past. My point is, yes be honest, but not when your gonna jepordize your health or your feeling comfratable at a meeting that you have every right to attend. Some people will use what I say as an excuse to use or lie, it's not meant to sound like that. But doing the right thing sometimes includes having to do something not everyone will agree with or understand. I hope I said this right, I wouldn't want to give the wrong impression. I love being clean and sober, but I do have a health issue that requires the need for pain medecine now and then, and I hurt myself by being honest where I've been told by other men with alot of sober time wasn't the right thing to do. So, for anyone truley doing the right thing, and working a program of recovery, be careful what you say, ask someone first, I wish I had.
Take care.......................................God bless.....................................Bob
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Yes, you can and should go to A.A. if you feel thats what you need to do. Like the others have said, I'd keep my Methadone use to myself, unless you have someone that you can confide in that won't judge you. It's good to be honest with people unless it would cause ingurey to yourself or others.
I know theres a fine line there but I agree with keeping it to yourself. As long as your honest with yourself.
I'm in A.A. when I first got clean and sober I was on this "Pink Cloud" and I wanted the world to know that I was clean and sober and from now on gonna go above and beyond to make sure I stayed that way, this included telling all of my doctors. That was a big mistake for this alcoholic and addict. Now I'm not saying people shouldn't be honest with there doctors, but for me, it was a big mistake. I have chronic kidney stones, along with a bad back. Now, the bad back i can deal with, but the stones sometimes can be so bad I wanna just die.
Because of my big mouth, I can't get a f---'in asprin from my urologist! That being said, it's not that I would take narcotics around the clock but if I had them I could have my father hold them, whos also in A.A. and could get what I need now and then when it's real bad. I did have a doctor a few months back that met my dad and agreed to this but he turned out to be an a$$hole and I had to go back to the doctor that I started with. It's been hell to say the least. So by being honest, it has actually back fired on me, I've had, for example, 11 surgeries for kidney stones just since July with no meds, not counting the stones I was able to pass on my own at home. Thats rediculous if you ask me. Nobody should have to deal with that, just because of a past. My point is, yes be honest, but not when your gonna jepordize your health or your feeling comfratable at a meeting that you have every right to attend. Some people will use what I say as an excuse to use or lie, it's not meant to sound like that. But doing the right thing sometimes includes having to do something not everyone will agree with or understand. I hope I said this right, I wouldn't want to give the wrong impression. I love being clean and sober, but I do have a health issue that requires the need for pain medecine now and then, and I hurt myself by being honest where I've been told by other men with alot of sober time wasn't the right thing to do. So, for anyone truley doing the right thing, and working a program of recovery, be careful what you say, ask someone first, I wish I had.
Take care.......................................God bless.....................................Bob
Ok, breaks over, back to decorating! lol Have a great night everyone....
I used to be on methadone and whenever i went to na./aa i didn't tell anyone.l Even though to you it is a medicine, to them (most of them) it is a drug. And if u do start mentioning it, not that ull be rejected, but u might get a lot of unsolicited advicen on getting off which is no big deal unless u buy what they are saying and start detoxing before u should. U probably might have a problem expressing urself as being clean & feel like a hypocryte. if u tell them.
As far as unneccesary honesty, the second poster is absolutely right. I couln't agree more. I have come to the conclusion that people (especially Dr's) are on a need to know basis. Most people don't need to know about my drug problems that i went thru, cause if they do & one day u show up to work tired or any little thing , the first thing going thru someones mind is often that u r using again. If and when i show up at a meeting & see someone who actually knows me outside, i am careful about what i say.
But as far as telling people at NA u r on methadone, In my world that probably would make less sense then letting my wife see my real paycheck.
Good morning ladies, Hi Teresa.
As far as unneccesary honesty, the second poster is absolutely right. I couln't agree more. I have come to the conclusion that people (especially Dr's) are on a need to know basis. Most people don't need to know about my drug problems that i went thru, cause if they do & one day u show up to work tired or any little thing , the first thing going thru someones mind is often that u r using again. If and when i show up at a meeting & see someone who actually knows me outside, i am careful about what i say.
But as far as telling people at NA u r on methadone, In my world that probably would make less sense then letting my wife see my real paycheck.
Good morning ladies, Hi Teresa.
i must admit that i am gonna try to get back on Methadone, it helped me so much and as hard as it was to get off, i think i need it, !) pain control, and 2) for cravings and its just wounderful for maintence in small doeses like 20 mg a day not 12 mgs daily..
You must have seriously lost you rmind now................You pain and illness CAN'T be that bad or you woould have been posting about it already! That is the craziest thing I have ever heard,what is wrong with you Jasmine??? If you were on methadone once before and you preach to people that it is a living hell to get off of,which I know it is first hand than why would you put yourself in that horroble position again and start using. Methadone is great, if you have a serious illness and you plan on staying on it forever. If you are using for short term and yu were already once addicted to it, you are just setting yourself up something horrible. It's your life but I say re-think that decision, it's not a wise choice! Rae
Tradition Three of Alcoholics Anonymous
"The only requirement for A.A. membership is a desire to stop drinking."
The Third Tradition is a sweeping statement indeed; it takes in a lot of territory. Some people might think it too idealistic to be practical. It tells every alcoholic in the world that he may become, and remain, a member of Alcoholics Anonymous so long as he says so. In short, Alcoholics Anonymous has no membership rule.
Why is this so? Our answer is simple and practical. Even in self-protection, we do not wish to erect the slightest barrier between ourselves and the fellow alcoholic who still suffers. We know that society has been demanding that he conform to its laws and conventions. But the essence of his alcoholic malady is the fact that he has been unable or unwilling to conform either to the laws of man or God. If he is anything, the sick alcoholic is a rebellious nonconformist. How well we understand that; every member of Alcoholics Anonymous was once a rebel himself. Hence we cannot offer to meet him at any halfway mark. We must enter the dark cave where he is and show him that we understand. We realize that he is altogether too weak and confused to jump hurdles. If we raise obstacles, he might stay away and perish. He might be denied his priceless opportunity.
So when he asks, "Are there any conditions?" we joyfully reply, "No, not a one." When skeptically he comes back saying, "But certainly there must be things that I have to do and believe," we quickly answer, "In Alcoholics Anonymous there are no musts." Cynically, perhaps, he then inquires, "What is this all going to cost me?" We are able to laugh and say, "Nothing at all, there are no fees and dues." Thus, in a brief hour, is our friend disarmed of his suspicion and rebellion. His eyes begin to open on a new world of friendship and understanding. Bankrupt idealist that he has been, his ideal is no longer a dream. After years of lonely search it now stands revealed. The reality of Alcoholics Anonymous bursts upon him. For Alcoholics Anonymous is saying, "We have something priceless to give, if only you will receive." That is all. But to our new friend, it is everything. Without more ado, he becomes one of us.
Our membership Tradition does contain, however, one vitally important qualification. That qualification relates to the use of our name, Alcoholics Anonymous. We believe that any two or three alcoholics gathered together for sobriety may call themselves an AA group provided that, as a group, they have no other affiliation. Here our purpose is clear and unequivocal. For obvious reasons we wish the name Alcoholics Anonymous to be used only in connection with straight AA activities. One can think of no AA member who would like, for example, to see the formation of "dry" AA groups, "wet" AA groups, communist AA groups. Few, if any, would wish our groups to be designated by religious denominations. We cannot lend the AA name, even indirectly, to other activities, however worthy. If we do so we shall become hopelessly compromised and divided. We think that AA should offer its experience to the whole world for whatever use can be made of it. But not its name. Nothing could be more certain.
Let us of AA therefore resolve that we shall always be inclusive and never exclusive, offering all we have to all, save our title. May all barriers be thus leveled, may our unity thus be preserved. And may God grant us a long life -- and a useful one!
Reprinted with permission of The AA Grapevine, Inc.
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my question to you is it your desire to stop drinking? if so, then AA may be the place for you. if alcohol is not your problem, you may find the fellowships of narcotics anonymous, pills anonymous, or methadone anonymous more suitable to your needs.
there are many people who do not have the availability of these other fellowships in the areas where they live. if that is your case, i would suggest that you find an open AA meeting, which is one that is open to all. in pills anonymous we have suggested that if AA is the only 12 step fellowship that you can find, you think of the pills you abused as "solid alcohol" and you may find some members with cross addictions at open AA meetings.
however, let it not be confused that AA is for people who suffer from the disease of alcoholism and have a desire to stop drinking. it's this singleness of purpose that has kept AA alive and working for the 60+ years of its existence.
i hope this helps.
hugs and much encouragment to you -
sammy
"The only requirement for A.A. membership is a desire to stop drinking."
The Third Tradition is a sweeping statement indeed; it takes in a lot of territory. Some people might think it too idealistic to be practical. It tells every alcoholic in the world that he may become, and remain, a member of Alcoholics Anonymous so long as he says so. In short, Alcoholics Anonymous has no membership rule.
Why is this so? Our answer is simple and practical. Even in self-protection, we do not wish to erect the slightest barrier between ourselves and the fellow alcoholic who still suffers. We know that society has been demanding that he conform to its laws and conventions. But the essence of his alcoholic malady is the fact that he has been unable or unwilling to conform either to the laws of man or God. If he is anything, the sick alcoholic is a rebellious nonconformist. How well we understand that; every member of Alcoholics Anonymous was once a rebel himself. Hence we cannot offer to meet him at any halfway mark. We must enter the dark cave where he is and show him that we understand. We realize that he is altogether too weak and confused to jump hurdles. If we raise obstacles, he might stay away and perish. He might be denied his priceless opportunity.
So when he asks, "Are there any conditions?" we joyfully reply, "No, not a one." When skeptically he comes back saying, "But certainly there must be things that I have to do and believe," we quickly answer, "In Alcoholics Anonymous there are no musts." Cynically, perhaps, he then inquires, "What is this all going to cost me?" We are able to laugh and say, "Nothing at all, there are no fees and dues." Thus, in a brief hour, is our friend disarmed of his suspicion and rebellion. His eyes begin to open on a new world of friendship and understanding. Bankrupt idealist that he has been, his ideal is no longer a dream. After years of lonely search it now stands revealed. The reality of Alcoholics Anonymous bursts upon him. For Alcoholics Anonymous is saying, "We have something priceless to give, if only you will receive." That is all. But to our new friend, it is everything. Without more ado, he becomes one of us.
Our membership Tradition does contain, however, one vitally important qualification. That qualification relates to the use of our name, Alcoholics Anonymous. We believe that any two or three alcoholics gathered together for sobriety may call themselves an AA group provided that, as a group, they have no other affiliation. Here our purpose is clear and unequivocal. For obvious reasons we wish the name Alcoholics Anonymous to be used only in connection with straight AA activities. One can think of no AA member who would like, for example, to see the formation of "dry" AA groups, "wet" AA groups, communist AA groups. Few, if any, would wish our groups to be designated by religious denominations. We cannot lend the AA name, even indirectly, to other activities, however worthy. If we do so we shall become hopelessly compromised and divided. We think that AA should offer its experience to the whole world for whatever use can be made of it. But not its name. Nothing could be more certain.
Let us of AA therefore resolve that we shall always be inclusive and never exclusive, offering all we have to all, save our title. May all barriers be thus leveled, may our unity thus be preserved. And may God grant us a long life -- and a useful one!
Reprinted with permission of The AA Grapevine, Inc.
_______
my question to you is it your desire to stop drinking? if so, then AA may be the place for you. if alcohol is not your problem, you may find the fellowships of narcotics anonymous, pills anonymous, or methadone anonymous more suitable to your needs.
there are many people who do not have the availability of these other fellowships in the areas where they live. if that is your case, i would suggest that you find an open AA meeting, which is one that is open to all. in pills anonymous we have suggested that if AA is the only 12 step fellowship that you can find, you think of the pills you abused as "solid alcohol" and you may find some members with cross addictions at open AA meetings.
however, let it not be confused that AA is for people who suffer from the disease of alcoholism and have a desire to stop drinking. it's this singleness of purpose that has kept AA alive and working for the 60+ years of its existence.
i hope this helps.
hugs and much encouragment to you -
sammy
