It's As Cold As Ice Here.

(b) CrazyCindi@aol.com
Well, I wrote early this morning about Marty lying to me about doing ICE.
Which we have both been up all night on the s***.
He has been out in his shop all night and morning doing whatever.
But he wants to tell me that he wasn't doing dope. Last night my best friend and her husband came over and they were Meth (iv) users for along time. And they said "oh yeah he is wound up tight". And He doesn't come in from the shop until 11 am this morning. And I have been on this computer since I was on here last night.
But We are not talking to one another now. I asked him a question a little while ago and he like to have bit my head off. I told him "I was sorry for asking him anything".
He went back out in the shop now. He is also suffering from a Staph Infection on the front of his right ankle. It is all swollen up real big and red. He can barely walk on it. But he is on the dope and doesn't stay off of it.
Anyway just feeling depressed about the whole thing of him lying to me about doing ICE. The thing that hurts the most is that he kept going on about it.
I feel hopeless and helpless.
How long does it take for ICE to be out of your system?
If anybody wants to give any advice? I'll take it.
Thanks,
Cindi
3 days for it to be out of your system.....longer to get over the bein tired ...and the mental side of it ......who knows ......some weeks.....others months .

Typical for someone wired out of their socks ....ignoring everything ....even their own health . I have had friends that have lost parts due to tweakin

one friend ended up losing most of both hands ......AND I swear this as the truth .....he literally chewed them off.....bit by bit .....just gnawing on sores ...over a period of a couple years .....just stubs ...that is all he has now ....if he is even alive .....havnt seen him in over 18 years

you are using also??

AL
OH MY GOD!!!!! HE JUST SCARED THE s*** OUT OF ME AND WAS DEMANDING ME TO GIVE HIM SOME DOPE. I TOLD HIM "NO" BECAUSE HE HAS PROBATION ON THE 7TH AND THEY WILL PISS HIM DOWN. HE FAILED ON THE 24TH OF MARCH. IT WAS HIS FIRST DAY ON PROBATION AND THE JUDGE PUT HIM IN JAIL FOR A WEEK.
HE GOT MAD AT ME BECAUSE I WOULDN'T GIVE HIM ANY DOPE. I TOLD HIM "THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO HIM AND THEN HIM GO TO PROBATION AND FAIL AGAIN AND THEN GO BACK TO JAIL". HE SAID "HE WAS A GROWN MAN AND HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE TO STAY OUT OF JAIL FOR". I SAID "WHAT ABOUT US"AND HE SAID "I TOLD YOU IT WAS OVER YESTERDAY AND THAT AS SOON AS I GET MY TRUCK RUNNING I'M OUT OF HERE". AND "THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO HAVE ANYBODY YELL AT HIM LIKE I DID YESTERDAY."THAT I TREAT HIM LIKE A DOG". I SAID "I DON'T TREAT YOU LIKE A DOG ALL I TRY TO DO IS LOVE YOU". AND THE DAY BEFORE THAT I YELLED AT HIM IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY BECAUSE HE WAS AT A GUY'S HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET. THAT IS A DOPE DEALER AND MARTY DID SOME MECHANIC WORK FOR HIM. BUT THE WHOLE TIME MARTY WAS IN JAIL HE WAS SAYING "THAT HE WASN'T GOING OVER TO FREDDIE'S HOUSE AND HE WASN'T DOING ANYMORE DOPE". THAT, "THAT WAS HIS LAST GO AROUND WITH THE DOPE". HE WASN'T OUT OF JAIL 12 HOURS AND HE WAS AT FREDDIE'S. AND "THAT HE WANTED TO GET HIS s*** TOGETHER AND GET A REAL JOB". "AND SPEND MORE TIME WITH ME". HE SAID "HE WAS GOING TO SPEND SO MUCH TIME WITH ME THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE UP MY a**". AND WE HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT FIGHT SINCE FRIDAY AFTERNOON. NOW OF COURSE THE NIGHT HE GOT OUT OF JAIL IT WAS LOVING AND WONDERFUL.
I'M REALLY SCARED NOW. I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM LIKE THAT. SCREAMING IN MY FACE FOR DOPE. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT PERSON. I FINALLY GAVE IN BECAUSE I THOUGHT HE MIGHT GET VIOLENT AND HE HAS NEVER BEEN THAT WAY WITH ME. AND HE CALLED ME A b**** AND HE HAS NEVER DONE THAT EITHER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DOPE HAS DONE TO HIM THIS TIME BUT I HAVEN'T EVER SEEN THAT SIDE OF HIM.
AND YES, JUSTONEMORE THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION" DO I GET HIGH TOO". BUT NOT LIKE HE DOES. I MAY GO DAYS OR A WEEK W/O IT AND THEN I MAY GO DAYS AND DO IT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF MOOD I'M IN.
I CAN'T LEAVE HERE EITHER. HE WRECKED MY CAR 2 WEEKS AGO. HE FEEL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL AND a** ENDED A CHEVY P/U. CAME HOME SCARED THAT DAY AND SAID HE WAS QUITTING THE DOPE.
OH MAN MY HEART IS STILL POUNDING OUT OF MY CHEST. I HAVE NOT EVER BEEN SCARED OF HIM BEFORE.
I GAVE IN AND GAVE HIM THE PIPE AND THEN HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT IT. SO I SAT IN DOWN IN THE ASHTRAY. BUT HE HASN'T TOUCHED IT YET.
HE IS IN THE LIVING ROOM GAGGING.
WELL, I SPOKE TO SOON HE JUST FIRED IT UP.
OH MY GOD HE IS GOING TO GO BACK TO JAIL.
JUSTONEMORE DO THINK IF HE STOPS SMOKING TONIGHT THAT IT WILL BE OUT OF HIS SYSTEM BY THE 7TH?
i would just like to say that if you are using too, you really cant expect much out of him, when two people use you can expect hell to come very quickly. the only thing that you can possibly change is yourself. looks like he may end up in jail for a week, i am not trying to sound doomsday but it doesnt sound like he is ready to quit. giving him that pipe is doing no good for you or him and you are putting yourself at grave risk to go to jail also, if he has never called you the b word before just wait and see how bad it gets. my ex is still out there using and he would have loved for me to get high with him however i am in recovery and i pray every day that he WONT call me. as long as you use he will too, until something drastic happens like losing everything or going to jail or getting sick. if the worst thing you can think of is whether he goes to jail for a week, then the worst hasnt happened YET.

hope it works out

carol
I WASN'T SMOKING ANY UNTIL LAST NIGHT AND I DIDN'T LET HIM KNOW THEN THAT I HAD.YOUR RIGHT TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT. AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE WAY IT HAS FELT THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS LIKE PURE HELL. AND ABOUT CHANGING MYSELF THAT IS WHY I HAVE BEEN ON THIS WEB SITE SINCE ABOUT 3AM. I HAVE READ MOST OF ALL THE POST. AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
WHEN HE GOES TO PROBATION ON THURSDAY AND FAILS HIS UA. HE WILL GO DOWN FOR 365 DAYS IN THE COUNTY JAIL.
HE SERVED A WEEK IN JAIL FROM MARCH 24 UNTIL MARCH 31. AND HE FAILED THAT UA THE DAY HE WENT TO START HIS PROBATION INTAKE PAPER'S. MORE LESS THE FIRST DAY HE WAS ON PROBATION. HE JUST GOT SENTECED TO 2 YEARS PROBATION ON MARCH 23. I KNOW THAT IT WAS NOT THE RIGHT DECISION TO GIVE HIM THE PIPE AND I DIDN'T AT FIRST AND I KEPT TELLING NO BUT THEN HE GOT HOSTILE AND IT SCARED ME. AND WHY WOULD I GO TO JAIL?
AS OF TODAY I'M GOING TO GIVE IT MY BEST TO STOP USING ICE.
HE IS ALREADY SICK WITH A STAPH INFECTION. IT IS ON THE FRONT OF HIS RIGHT ANKLE. HE CAN'T WALK ON IT HARDLY. IT IS SWOLLEN REAL BAD. AND IF HE DOES GO TO JAIL WE WILL LOSE EVERYTHING WE GOT.
WELL, NOT MATERIAL STUFF. BUT OUR HOUSE WE WILL LOSE.


your situation with him will get likely get worse before it gets better.

let us know when you are ready to talk about your recovery.

your story is the reason many people seek recovery from addiction to these drugs. and quit using . or run from someone else who is using.

what a way to spend a beautiful weekend. and what a way to waste a life.

I FIGURED SOMEONE WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. IT WAS GOING TO GET WORSE. I KINDA THOUGHT THAT MAYBE HE COULD HANDLE IT BETTER THEN HE DID TODAY. HE WAS SUPPOSE TO QUIT. HE QUIT COKE, POT, DRINKING AND CIGARETTES COLD TURKEY.
I AM READY TO TALK ABOUT MY RECOVERY. AFTER TODAY I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE. I WANT TO THROW UP AND CRY MY EYES OUT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO FEEL RIGHT NOW. I FEEL CONFUSED AND SAD. AT LEAST HE WENT BACK OUT TO HIS SHOP. AND HE IS OUT OF THE HOUSE.
my ex has been in prison 3 times and he still hasnt gotten it. smoking ice is pretty hardcore and it gets worse. he had opportunities by going to drug diversion and na meetings, could not stay clean even for 90 days. he is off parole and still out there. my experience with a addict and i am one is that if you hang around long enough you will indeed get sicker, not just using drugs, but your mind gets weird too. trust me i have been there and lived la vida loca. he has been gone for 6 months but will still call once in awhile, always high and drunk. in order to maintain my sobreity i really had to cut ties here. nothing can be more important than recovery if that is what you choose. now as i look back i understand that there was nothing i could ever say or do that would change him, so i changed myself. and i set boundries and he knows without a shadow of doubt that i am in na and when someone is using they really dont want to hear about na unless they really are ready to change. you cant change him but you can control what is happening in your life.

take care

carol

InLove, others are here to talk to you about your recovery when you are ready. if we can answer any questions you may have, please feel free to leave a message here. many who post on this board have walked your walk and stood is your shoes.

there is much hope for a better life for you. i'm sure it looks dark and bleak for you at this moment.

most have to reach a bottom, a real bottom, before change and a better life is within reach.

by the way, confrontation rarely serves a purpose when they are using like that. even discussion is impossible. it's pointless.

make sure you are safe. don't want to scare you, but others who post here have been harmed when their addict is in this condition and starts doing things they have never done before.
I know that is what scares me that he is going to go to jail for a year.
But if he odes he does. It will break my heart. I love him very much. And normally we have a real good loving relationship. I just don't know.
I know that it is up to me to quit doing dope and I'm going to do my best as of right this minute.
He just came in here and asked me if we had anything for a headache that his head is pounding. And he didn't hear me so i spoke up and he was telling me not to yell at him and i said i wasn't i was talking louder so you could hear me.
And i told him to please fix his truck so he could go somewhere away from here. He just laughed. I said well i guess it is time for me to get used to you not being here because you are going to end up in jail anyway.
and then i told him i was quitting the dope and he just laughed again and said i have heard that before and i told him i am for real that i am not getting high anymore as of now.
My ex and I were both users and it always was a battle ....I would try to quit ...and she would continue to use ....so I would say "the hell with it" and it went the other way also ....mostly though we were both fiends.

I also have been addicted heavily to everything it seems ..alcohol, pot , pills ...and one way or another I have gotten a grip on all of them ....except meth ....I tried and tried ...only to always fail ..I cant really blame the ex either ...cause we seperated the last year and few months ....my daughter (19 years old) knew about my use and wanted me to stop ....I couldnr do it for her either ...I was whipped ....by meth

I had to make a decision to leave where I lived ....go to where I had no access in order to stop ...6 months clean now ....I wonder what will happen when access is again there ....just a matter of time ..

you are both using and you are not his keeper ....so you did the right thing by giving it to him ....A hard a$$ right thing would be to just take all the drugs and paraphenalia ...and flushed it ...destroyed it . But if dealer is just across the street ...that wouldnt accomplish much .

you can state how you feel ...but ultimately it is his decision to stop ...My GUESS????????? he is going to get high untill the day he goes back to jail . and many jail even have A LOT OF DRUGS INSIDE .

You need to start looking out for yourself ...the only one you have control of .


sounds like you may have to watch someone you care about go down the tubes ....another life wasted to meth , dont join him ,.. you may only be an occasional user now ....but I dont know of anyone who started out saying they wanted to be addicted to meth ... crap...I am 50 years old ...and used meth for 35 of them ......I'm still alive yes ...but dont have a damn thing to show for it ...other than the knowledge meth wont take you anywhere but down ..

good luck ....and keep posting ...we're here for you if needed

AL
TO BOB:
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COCERN ABOUT ME. IF ANYTHING GOES DOWN MY DAUGHTER AND SON IN LAW LIVE RIGHT UP THE STREET AND IF IT GETS TO BAD I WILL PUT HIM IN JAIL MYSELF.
AND I KNOW JUST ME LOVING HIM IS NOT ENOUGH FOR HIM TO STOP.
AND YOUR ALSO RIGHT ABOUT TRYING TALK TO HIM ABOUT ANYTHING RIGHT NOW IS IMPOSSIBLE. SO I WILL NOT SPEAK TO HIM AMYMORE TONIGHT. I HAVE BEEN HERE ON THE COMPUTER ALL DAY SO I WILL NOT BE AROUND HIM.
I HOPE AND PRAY I CAN DO THIS RECOVERY. I KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE HARD BUT I HAVE TO DO IT.
JUSTONEMORE:
I HAVE READ A LOT OF POST FROM YOU TO OTHER PEOPLE IN HERE AND YOU INSPIRE ME.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN WITH A DRUG ADDICT LIKE THIS BEFORE.
ALL MY OTHER HUSBANDS WERE ALCOHOLICS. AND ABUSED ME.
I KNOW I CAN'T BROW BEAT HIM INTO DOING WHAT I KNOW IS RIGHT FOR HIM AND I. AND YOUR RIGHT I'M PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH HIM GO TO JAIL. AND HAT IS GOING TO BE ON HIM. AND I TOLD HIM IF HE WENT TO JAIL FOR A DIRTY UA AND WENT O JAIL I WAS NOT GOING TO WAIT ON HIM TO GET OUT.
READING ALL OF EVERYBODY'S POST HAS GIVEN SOME HOPE. AND I KNOW I CAN DO IT IF I JUST PUT MY MIND TO IT.
I HAVE BEEN USING SINCE JULY SOMETIME. AT FIRST IT WAS JUST ALITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE AND THEN IT STARTED GETTING MORE FREQUENT.
Sometimes the difficult things in life are most cherished , when accomplished

You'll be ok....just keep looking for answers and asking questions ...you are here ....which says a lot

be strong .....and be safe AL
Not to make light of things .... but when I first started using ....I could make a half a gram last over a week ......


for the last 20 years ..it was nothin to do a half gram at once ...one big fat line!!! or a full gram into a gel cap .......of course smokin it took time , but that was the funny part ....get wired to do stuff.....and spend literally all day puffin how nuts it is looking back


for many ...there is no looking back AL
JUSTONEMORE:
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. YA'LL HAVE REALLY HELPED ME OUT TODAY.
AND I 'M GOING TO TRY AND BE STRONG AND SOBER. MAYBE IF HE SEE'S ME DOING IT HE WILL WANT TO. BUT IF NOT THEN THAT IS THE WAY IT GOES. I HAVE TO DO THIS FOR MYSELF.
I HAVE NOTICED FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY LEFT FOOT. ITIS LIKE WHEN I'M WALKING IT IS HARD TO PICKIT UP AND MY FOOT DRAGS. DO YOU THINK THAT COULD BE FROM THE DOPE?
AND JUSTONEMORE
DO YOU THINK THAT IF HE QUITS SMOKING BY TONIGHT THAT THE DOPE WILL BE OUT OIF HIM BY THURSDAY?
I'M STILL NOT USING THAT MUCH. WHENEVER MARTY WAS IN JAIL LAST WEEK. FREDDIE'S OLD LADY WOULD COME OVER HERE EVERYDAY AND GIVE ME DOPE AND THREW OUT THE WEEK I COLLECTED A GRAM AND A HALF OF DOPE AND STILL HAVE A HALF A GRAM.
JUSTONEMORE:
BACK IN THE LATE 80'S AND EARLY 90'S I PLAYED AROUND WITH METH.
I ONLY USED WHEN WE WERE PARTYING OR I WANTED TO CLEAN HOUSE REAL GOOD.
I DIDN'T TOUCH IT FOR 12 YEARS AT ALL. AND THEN A FRIEND OF MINE AT WORK TURNED ME ON TO ICE. AND THEN I STARTED LOSING WEIGHT. WHICH I LIKED THAT A LOT. I LOST 50 POUNDS.
BEFORE THIS SMOKING WEED WAS THE ONLY THING I DID. AND DON'T DO MUCH OF THAT EITHER.
YES, I KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT AND I PRAY THAT I WILL ACCOMPLISH THE BATTLE.
I KNOW I WILL BE OK ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE LIKE YA'LL ON HERE TO GET ME THROUGH IT.
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING UP ALL KINDS OF STUFF ON METH SINCE LAST WEEK.