I have been on this forum for a few months and clean since March. I go to Na and it works for me, it may not be everyones program and that is fine. When I read posts attacking people and it seems that you are forefront with alot of them, it reminds me of a forum when I was using that everyone went off mainly due to all the medications that they were on. Some folks have to be on maintenance meds and that is fine. My biggest lessons and learning have been keeping quiet and listening to others who have found success in freedom from active addiction.
When I am at odds with people constantly, I need to look deep within myself and see what part I am playing in stirring the pot. If you are clean that is great, if not maybe you should sit back and instead of commenting on everything or making offensive remarks, learn to listen to the ones who have gone thru active addiction and are clean today.
Carol
Thank you Carol for even trying to u'stand me. I have always been an agree to dis-agree person. A tell it like it is w/o hurting ayone'sfeeling.
If I make a point of view on this board to a group o people, I get slammed. I have never had anything like this in my life (first board of any kind, maybe it's true that The lou group are like clones led by one.and may hae 5 followers. Leader makes all calls, at our age, i would be embarressed not to think gor myself.
Do yuu notice how 4-5 attck me after I make one post. Even when I try to make a post to one persom in case I worded something and she took th wrong way. The troublemaler jumped up. y pot o 1st and then this peron's, then 2 more so still don't know how that person feels.They closed the thread after only 4-5 post - I was told to let it go - it's hard to let s'thing go with that group making you out to be a monster. This persom had posted that she has many spouse problems and I thnk she has to take it out somewhere. I'm tired of being a beaten rug so I have been speaking up. That's b/c my friends and I decicded not to defend each other - it just keeps the pot stirring as they say.This group really makes it hard for a person wo spokeher mid during one of these drama times.
I'm sorry that you have had to witness this and are new but some just come to this board for trouble, I can name 3, they just pop up in my head. It's like they don't have a mind of their own. They follow the leader whatever she says.
We are adults, I don't know why we are not allowed to state what works for us.
Some of their people (yes - it's reduced to that) I have heard maybe 3 groups are on board. I kept trying t post to all groups but after beng bashed by one group just for haing a mind of my own. I don't need that, will stick to the happy, good, people unless it's spmeone who is down in the dumps and wants me to to post to the , have even told me that if I knew how many were still usuing and preaching the 12 steps, that I would be shocked. I stopped believing her after believing her the 1st time - but others have told me the same thing. . Also, she had just told me that to get the heat off her - she was in touble on te board after sending out dirty emails. Her story was that someone had asked he to send them for her. She and I had never had any trouble, just
in the emailI saw that she wrtoe, she was jsut wanting to be F*** around with me and see how I would react. Why would someon do that but we did go back to staying on the same board- thank goodess it'a a huge board.
My friend also tells me if I move on, there will be another "Jean" I guess the board was just taking a break from the drama when I started. This is not good for new prople, I know that,I ans e'one who cares will do al possible to get past this -but we do relapse - maybe not always on pills but in these toxic threads,
I know I would not have stayed if I saw this when I first showed up and wanted off pills, I am much calmer now. I have been defended, even by their group when one of the members, the loudest one, sent out dirty emails about me.I was in my den one night when this hapened and didn't even know about it 'til the next morning. My cloest friends on the board and I were emailing, but a few of us now talk on the phone. Really glad I didn't hear about it that night, have Fibro and OA and sleepin is been bad.
I have been emailed sayng they are afraid to post -araid of being bashed. or picke apart - I do tell them that I happen seen that hapen to newcomes. I think I had about 3 months on the boar before being atacked. They are quick learnners.In he beginnng, I would have shared anythig with thiis board, no friensandfamly only.
That's me as I told Marie yesterday who started a thread just to tell me how horrible I am - I don't even know her. I saw her name about a month ago and thought she had left. They round up as many as posible for the bashing.
KsHsron somehow read in my post that I said s'thing about the loss of her sister. I am not a monster. I made a special , separate podt to het only, tellig her if I worded s'thing wrong, I was sorry but I still can't see it and it's that old thing, that group see it and the ones who are eamiling me don't see it
I losy my oldest son13 days before he turned 19, and I know how you never get over it, you get througt it. For ths if for no other eason, my heart breaks for her.
I have wished her and her famly all the best more than once. I'm sue she's having a terribletie now. I she needs to use me, I completetly u'tand.The others are followers of the leader of the pack.
Sorry, this board was wonderfu om ay 31st. l, according to ones I have conversatins with, would love for it to be that way again.
It was such a precious thinj=g when i strtted.All I want to do ismgivr back,
Hope yo uderstamd me more. I you have any quesions,ansewered off the board,
my emal address is blin17172@com
I decided too many post on the thread who need help. That was my plan when I got clean - to help others as I was helped.
If you have any questiions about me, just ask.
Sorry id words are mis-spelled - last night was a no sleeper - only got a couple hours this morningand my eyeare closing,
Jean
If I make a point of view on this board to a group o people, I get slammed. I have never had anything like this in my life (first board of any kind, maybe it's true that The lou group are like clones led by one.and may hae 5 followers. Leader makes all calls, at our age, i would be embarressed not to think gor myself.
Do yuu notice how 4-5 attck me after I make one post. Even when I try to make a post to one persom in case I worded something and she took th wrong way. The troublemaler jumped up. y pot o 1st and then this peron's, then 2 more so still don't know how that person feels.They closed the thread after only 4-5 post - I was told to let it go - it's hard to let s'thing go with that group making you out to be a monster. This persom had posted that she has many spouse problems and I thnk she has to take it out somewhere. I'm tired of being a beaten rug so I have been speaking up. That's b/c my friends and I decicded not to defend each other - it just keeps the pot stirring as they say.This group really makes it hard for a person wo spokeher mid during one of these drama times.
I'm sorry that you have had to witness this and are new but some just come to this board for trouble, I can name 3, they just pop up in my head. It's like they don't have a mind of their own. They follow the leader whatever she says.
We are adults, I don't know why we are not allowed to state what works for us.
Some of their people (yes - it's reduced to that) I have heard maybe 3 groups are on board. I kept trying t post to all groups but after beng bashed by one group just for haing a mind of my own. I don't need that, will stick to the happy, good, people unless it's spmeone who is down in the dumps and wants me to to post to the , have even told me that if I knew how many were still usuing and preaching the 12 steps, that I would be shocked. I stopped believing her after believing her the 1st time - but others have told me the same thing. . Also, she had just told me that to get the heat off her - she was in touble on te board after sending out dirty emails. Her story was that someone had asked he to send them for her. She and I had never had any trouble, just
in the emailI saw that she wrtoe, she was jsut wanting to be F*** around with me and see how I would react. Why would someon do that but we did go back to staying on the same board- thank goodess it'a a huge board.
My friend also tells me if I move on, there will be another "Jean" I guess the board was just taking a break from the drama when I started. This is not good for new prople, I know that,I ans e'one who cares will do al possible to get past this -but we do relapse - maybe not always on pills but in these toxic threads,
I know I would not have stayed if I saw this when I first showed up and wanted off pills, I am much calmer now. I have been defended, even by their group when one of the members, the loudest one, sent out dirty emails about me.I was in my den one night when this hapened and didn't even know about it 'til the next morning. My cloest friends on the board and I were emailing, but a few of us now talk on the phone. Really glad I didn't hear about it that night, have Fibro and OA and sleepin is been bad.
I have been emailed sayng they are afraid to post -araid of being bashed. or picke apart - I do tell them that I happen seen that hapen to newcomes. I think I had about 3 months on the boar before being atacked. They are quick learnners.In he beginnng, I would have shared anythig with thiis board, no friensandfamly only.
That's me as I told Marie yesterday who started a thread just to tell me how horrible I am - I don't even know her. I saw her name about a month ago and thought she had left. They round up as many as posible for the bashing.
KsHsron somehow read in my post that I said s'thing about the loss of her sister. I am not a monster. I made a special , separate podt to het only, tellig her if I worded s'thing wrong, I was sorry but I still can't see it and it's that old thing, that group see it and the ones who are eamiling me don't see it
I losy my oldest son13 days before he turned 19, and I know how you never get over it, you get througt it. For ths if for no other eason, my heart breaks for her.
I have wished her and her famly all the best more than once. I'm sue she's having a terribletie now. I she needs to use me, I completetly u'tand.The others are followers of the leader of the pack.
Sorry, this board was wonderfu om ay 31st. l, according to ones I have conversatins with, would love for it to be that way again.
It was such a precious thinj=g when i strtted.All I want to do ismgivr back,
Hope yo uderstamd me more. I you have any quesions,ansewered off the board,
my emal address is blin17172@com
I decided too many post on the thread who need help. That was my plan when I got clean - to help others as I was helped.
If you have any questiions about me, just ask.
Sorry id words are mis-spelled - last night was a no sleeper - only got a couple hours this morningand my eyeare closing,
Jean
Hello Jean, I had a thought. Apologies have been made, feelings explained, so why not let this go completely and start over?
There are no leaders on a message board except for the moderators.
I understand the need to explain things. When I'm feeling defensive, I do that too but I'm working on it.
When you apologized, you did that for yourself. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of it.
Most of us here don't even know about the email you keep speaking of.
So just forget all this and move on. Every day is a new chance with a clean slate.
Fair enough?
Kat
There are no leaders on a message board except for the moderators.
I understand the need to explain things. When I'm feeling defensive, I do that too but I'm working on it.
When you apologized, you did that for yourself. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of it.
Most of us here don't even know about the email you keep speaking of.
So just forget all this and move on. Every day is a new chance with a clean slate.
Fair enough?
Kat
Good morning Jean:
What are you doing for Jean today? I hope you have a truly fantastic day.
Rachel
There you go, there's a great way to approach the day...what are you doing for you? What is it about YOU that YOU need to change, work on or fix?
Are you planning to wean off the xanax? I know you can't go cold turkey, so weaning is the best way to go. You will feel so much better when you are drug free. Life will really start to make sense so that you can let all of this stuff go.
Just a suggestion.
cowgirl
Are you planning to wean off the xanax? I know you can't go cold turkey, so weaning is the best way to go. You will feel so much better when you are drug free. Life will really start to make sense so that you can let all of this stuff go.
Just a suggestion.
cowgirl
Jean,
Seriously, I'd love to know what you're going to do today for Jean. Lately, I've only observed all these septic posts and it must be taking a toll on you, I know it would for me. So let's officially start to talk about what we're going to do about a far more critical matter in the way of what will make you a stronger and happier person when you go to sleep tonight as opposed to how you woke up. Come on Jean, this crap can't be working for you and there's no way it alleviates any aggravation, pain, or using. Let's start advancing and enhancing instead of this complete degeneration of your recovery and character. Look at your posts, you're almost incoherent and I know this is getting to you so let's progress. Have a marvellous day.
Seriously, I'd love to know what you're going to do today for Jean. Lately, I've only observed all these septic posts and it must be taking a toll on you, I know it would for me. So let's officially start to talk about what we're going to do about a far more critical matter in the way of what will make you a stronger and happier person when you go to sleep tonight as opposed to how you woke up. Come on Jean, this crap can't be working for you and there's no way it alleviates any aggravation, pain, or using. Let's start advancing and enhancing instead of this complete degeneration of your recovery and character. Look at your posts, you're almost incoherent and I know this is getting to you so let's progress. Have a marvellous day.
Thank you Carol. Rachel, and Kat:
Well, last night was a no sleeper. I guess b/c of th Fibro so I am now fallig asleep on th computer.
On the bright side, I slept the night before so I was abe to g to Recovery Mettin t th Church. We had more than last week. we don't want others to think you have to be a member of the Church to come to thee meeting. I wa told my a ery smart peson on the baord that this board would not be enough to keeo me clean. i have been lucky, even with all that's, .I still hate Lortab and have no cravigns for tehm.
So, today I hope to sleep a few hours, then my husband and I are going to buy theThanksgivign dinner ingrdients. .
I have Menu save om WORD, list is saved on Excel. Somethings I only buy once a year. .
Don't drive anymor with just a litle sleep. The last time i did that I ran off the road, I woke up,and gaimed control of the car before it wsa bad but I won't do that anymore,
I ddn't even feel sleepy, just tired.
Good late morning lFipper and Carol.
Carol, Still clean, it was 5 month son 11/15.
Fliper, ,just dont wnat to go backwad, wnat to move forward ,My name has taken up too may tioics on a recovery board.
I'm getting the help I feel I need now. The recovery group at our Church is like Group Therapy.
I
Love to all and I hope yoe have a wondeful day.
Jean
Well, last night was a no sleeper. I guess b/c of th Fibro so I am now fallig asleep on th computer.
On the bright side, I slept the night before so I was abe to g to Recovery Mettin t th Church. We had more than last week. we don't want others to think you have to be a member of the Church to come to thee meeting. I wa told my a ery smart peson on the baord that this board would not be enough to keeo me clean. i have been lucky, even with all that's, .I still hate Lortab and have no cravigns for tehm.
So, today I hope to sleep a few hours, then my husband and I are going to buy theThanksgivign dinner ingrdients. .
I have Menu save om WORD, list is saved on Excel. Somethings I only buy once a year. .
Don't drive anymor with just a litle sleep. The last time i did that I ran off the road, I woke up,and gaimed control of the car before it wsa bad but I won't do that anymore,
I ddn't even feel sleepy, just tired.
Good late morning lFipper and Carol.
Carol, Still clean, it was 5 month son 11/15.
Fliper, ,just dont wnat to go backwad, wnat to move forward ,My name has taken up too may tioics on a recovery board.
I'm getting the help I feel I need now. The recovery group at our Church is like Group Therapy.
I
Love to all and I hope yoe have a wondeful day.
Jean
