There are so many ridiculous posts on this board but for the one posting it is not ridiculous. For some reason, this was a topic of concern to SDR and he has every right to post it. In one breath we say who are we to judge and the very next we are judging someones post. If you dont like the post, ignore it. If you have something to add to it, do so. For heavens sake though he is entitled to speak his mind. IMHO its not so much the original post, but all the posts that follow just so the "groups" here can show their alliance - no matter what the topic. Should we all pop in and say "Im tired of this subject how dare you mention it because it is something that concerns you? " I guess some of you would rather hear the bs stories with so many holes in them rather than the real concerns of your fellow addicts. I doubt SDR is interested in any popularity contests.............but many here are thats for sure.
for what it's worth, and I'm sure I will get bumped in the noggin for this, but if the other thread was locked.. why is it being perpetuated here again? Is this what you want to waste your energy on? Let me be selfish... if you have energy to waste.. send it my way and help me (or another newbie). K, I will take lumps for this (hope not, but,,,,) and yes I am new here... but sheeesh.
I guess the moderators closing the other thread wasn't a clue to you huh????? lol....I think what they were saying, I may be wrong is "DROP IT" bright one.
Donna... i said enough is enough because this subject has been going around and around and it is never ending. I did not mean that sdr couldn't speak their mind. By all means... speak your minds... but is it really necessary to make it so obvious as to which post he/she was referring to? It's not that i don't understand the point of the thread... but, once again it got turned around into the same thing we all went over yesterday. Just my two cents. Love, Bri :)
Lots of threads get locked - usually because of the assinine posts that follow. But if the topic is one that someone needs to discuss, they should be allowed to. In a mature way of course. But I find once theres a topic that some dont care for, all they have to do is follow it up with remarks that are sure to close it.
maybe the poster should have some way of locking it themselves...
the horse is dead.
the horse is dead.
with all due respect, how is calling someone a liar mature or productive? It kind of makes me feel like watching what I say here... I don't want to get accused of anything myself. Look, I dont know any of you.. and I dont know who is who.. or who takes what. All I know is that Im here for help... and reading threads like this... well... ick. Puts a downer ontop of a downer. Maturity is knowing that people that lie hang themselves... there is no need to call them on it. I may be an addict, but I'm not stupid...and neither is anyone else here.
Liz - posts get closed for MANY reasons. We rehash sthe same crap here all the time so who are you kidding. (I like the insult at end of your post - shows your maturity)
Janet... that's a great idea! I wish we could do that. Good to see you today... been wondering where you are! Love,Bri :)
Tired - should we all just turn a blind eye to those things we question here?
Im not concerned so much with his topic as I am with a post getting closed because it becomes an unpopular topic.. All points of view should be heard. THAT is my only point
Donna...I'm not going to waste my time argueing with you. You just never make any sense. The moderators closed the thread so you felt you needed to make a new one on the issue???? Not so smart. Talk about immature. You had to make sure you got the last word is why you made this thread.
DING,DING,DING,what do we have for her johnny,a years supply of answers to stupid a** questions[lmao]................vinny.
First let me say....
donna I agree with you.... In a small way we judge post of sorts when we read them.. 'is this something I want or can post to'... 'do I feel strongly about this'.. this isnt being judgemental in the sense of segregation it is just how it works... but.. there are some that see the poster and say... well dont like this thread or this post by the very virtue of the one that posted... this is wrong..and not healthy...I have been guilty of it.... I work hard to avoid doing that.... but if the alternative is posting nasty hateful things... or making fights on this board then by all means... walk away... but bottom line as long as you can express an opinion with out calling names or being threatening .. last time I looked.. ( unless then tightened the patriot act again..) this is still a free country with free speech....
Now..as for perpetuating the previous thread... the only way that is being done is if the original issue is raised and as of the time I started this post it hadnt been..... the only issue that was resurected was the 'right' to our opinions and to voice them....
Although I agree that recovery is more than just the hard issues it is life.. but in my estimation tolerance isnt just patting someone and saying there there.. it is tolerating the fact that everyone has an opinion .... tolerating that we are different..... and that no two people are going to agree..... also ... recovery work is also more than what is for dinner and who took who to the prom ect... sometime I think others are afraid to ask the really hard questions for fear of this very thing....
It is time to show others that we can be adults and have an adult discussion about things without name calling.... without putting people down... but it takes more than one or two.... and it takes some willing to simply say.... you dont have to call names and you are out of line... but most are afraid to do that because of who they are....
but back to the point the previously locked thread wasnt resurected... the issues is different....
JMHO
Teresa
btw.... not slamming anyone with this post.... but just wanted to clarify what I see.... no one is bonking anyone in the head...lol.....
donna I agree with you.... In a small way we judge post of sorts when we read them.. 'is this something I want or can post to'... 'do I feel strongly about this'.. this isnt being judgemental in the sense of segregation it is just how it works... but.. there are some that see the poster and say... well dont like this thread or this post by the very virtue of the one that posted... this is wrong..and not healthy...I have been guilty of it.... I work hard to avoid doing that.... but if the alternative is posting nasty hateful things... or making fights on this board then by all means... walk away... but bottom line as long as you can express an opinion with out calling names or being threatening .. last time I looked.. ( unless then tightened the patriot act again..) this is still a free country with free speech....
Now..as for perpetuating the previous thread... the only way that is being done is if the original issue is raised and as of the time I started this post it hadnt been..... the only issue that was resurected was the 'right' to our opinions and to voice them....
Although I agree that recovery is more than just the hard issues it is life.. but in my estimation tolerance isnt just patting someone and saying there there.. it is tolerating the fact that everyone has an opinion .... tolerating that we are different..... and that no two people are going to agree..... also ... recovery work is also more than what is for dinner and who took who to the prom ect... sometime I think others are afraid to ask the really hard questions for fear of this very thing....
It is time to show others that we can be adults and have an adult discussion about things without name calling.... without putting people down... but it takes more than one or two.... and it takes some willing to simply say.... you dont have to call names and you are out of line... but most are afraid to do that because of who they are....
but back to the point the previously locked thread wasnt resurected... the issues is different....
JMHO
Teresa
btw.... not slamming anyone with this post.... but just wanted to clarify what I see.... no one is bonking anyone in the head...lol.....
donnatwo- there is a difference between turning a blind eye... and letting someone out themselves. People who lie do not need any help drawing attention to their lies. Are we here to help each other? I thought so....
I think (from what I have seen of your posts, and the posts of the majority of the people here) that you are a caring helpful person. I do not understand why good "help time" is being wasted to discredit another person. I mean really? Who cares? You are saying that if someone doesnt like a certain thread, then they shouldn't read it. Take the same attitude with the people that you think are lying... don't read their posts. The back button is there for a reason. Do you really know that she is lying? I certainly don't.. and I dont care.. I care that people are reaching out to me... I care that *I* am now wasting time and energy on this... rather than dealing with and taking advice on my addiction.
I think (from what I have seen of your posts, and the posts of the majority of the people here) that you are a caring helpful person. I do not understand why good "help time" is being wasted to discredit another person. I mean really? Who cares? You are saying that if someone doesnt like a certain thread, then they shouldn't read it. Take the same attitude with the people that you think are lying... don't read their posts. The back button is there for a reason. Do you really know that she is lying? I certainly don't.. and I dont care.. I care that people are reaching out to me... I care that *I* am now wasting time and energy on this... rather than dealing with and taking advice on my addiction.
bri, i opened up a new thread to talk
ya know.. I just thought of something... yeah brilliant me. If a person who you suspect is lying is infact lying...shouldnt we be trying to help them and reach out to them? I mean, hell.. I have lied to get pain meds... on numerous occasions.... so are you going to think less of me? From the way I am thinking right now.. a lie is a lie ... so if I lie to get pain meds and another person lies about something else to get attention (or whatever) what is the difference between the 2 of us?
Theresa - thank you for being able to read and comprehend (unlike some others) This thread is NOT perpetuating the topic of the other thread at all. Im not concerned so much with what his topic was as I am with all who run to the moderators to get something closed. Ok. nuff said lol - at least some get the point
