Liz

Pain Pills
1
Liz..my intention is not to piss people off or "make them afraid" of me. I just push back, when pushed. As far as the comments I make? If I make them 100 times, that's my business. Not sure why you feel it's necessary to stick your nose in other people's posts. Didn't concern you. And that, my dear is something you've done before. See? None of us are perfect.

Honestly, you probably should be more concerned about your own VERY early recovery than feeling like you need to slam me.

I like to think that I help people, I also like to think that I protect them. And telling someone that this is not the place to ask how to get away with illegal activities, is protecting. If you don't need information like that or to be protected, great, good for you! Don't read what I have to say. Very simple.

Hope you have a better day...
Cowgirl
2
Hey Cowgirl,

Just there is better ways of saying things, that is something I'm learning. So sorry you haven't learned that yet. Maybe someday you will understand. Have a nice night.

Liz
3
I know this isn't my post, but I too, have to ask what does it mean, "be careful who you piss off?" I know the Big Book well, and maybe I should take the excerpt out of it, "restraint from pen and tongue." Maybe we all should.

Rachel
4
I have been observing this site for approximately three months now and have learned a great deal, not only about recovery, but also about the people that post on this site. It has taken me this long and to this point to finally feel the need to post. I feel that what Cowgirl wrote regarding the be careful who you p** off, or whatever the quote was exactly, was a direct threat and was totally out of line. Then, as usual there is a personal attack on someone who called Cowgirl out on the threat. Things on this board have been SO nice lately, everyone getting along and it's been wonderful. This was a flat out threat and while it is none of my business I am tired of just watching other people "getting it" while I sit here silently and say nothing. So, please please please stop. If anyone else was offended by the comment I wish that you too would come out and let others here know what is acceptable and where the line should be drawn. I, for one was enjoying the new kind and gentler attitude that has been in the room lately.
5
Ok..so I continually have to fix the wreckage of my past and am constantly making amends for saying or doing dumb thing. Guess I'm human, huh? So, I said something that probably wasn't the best choice of words, but like I said, when pushed, I push back.

It's just really funny to me, that everyone, including those who have never felt compelled to post before, are so quick to jump on me and single out that one dumb remark.

With that said... I guess it's time for me to move on. Some of you truely will be successful in your quest to be clean and sober. I hope that I have helped you in some way, because you have helped me and supported me through some of the darkest hours of my life. There are those of you, unfortunatly, that will never "get it" because you are so stuck in your own hate and discontent. I feel so sorry for you. You've allowed your anger and unwillingness to open yourselves to others that may, just may, know something that you could benefit from. If you've never taken your sobriety seriously before, now is the time.

Good Luck all..

Those that know me best, know how to contact me.

Cowgirl
6
I cannot believe this attack on Cowgirl. She is one of the most caring, sincere people on this board. And she has just gone thur hell and this is the way that she is being treated. How dare you say that she was being threatening. That was not her message at all. And Liz you are a fine one to be saying anything about her. You have done nothing since you got here but stir up trouble. That seems to be your primary purpose for being on this board. You need serious help.

Cowgirl, please, please ignore this nasiness and attack on your character. YOu have helped so many people and you are loved by many.

God bless you,

7
To all:

Cowgirl's original primary objective was to try to help someone who is obviously in a great deal of denial. If you are on this board for any other reason than to help others and be serious and honest about yourself, then go away!!!

T
8
My friend, there is not one single person who at one time or another has not said something regretable. It's difficult not to when someone is calling names. It is inexcusable for anyone to want to gang up on you and voice complaints. I personally gain from everything you've ever posted and will forever be grateful for all that you have shared. I don't know who this new person is, but he doesn't know you at all. I don't care about one silly offhanded remark, what I care about is the uncountable wonderful posts you've made. Don't let one person touch the serenity that you carry with you all the time. And I think, although maybe cowgirl was upset at the time, what she meant was.....be careful what you say, people love her and will stand by her. She's earned that for being here so long and helping so many. Perhaps the right thing to do would be for everyone to stand up and tell her how much she matters, not what they think about ONE sentence. Love you girl, Kat
9
Liz,
You gotta give me a break here ......... you didn't really think that was meant as a malicious threat did you? It looked like a simple play on words to me. I think the important thing is to look at experience and see who's making it here and for how long. Those people might have something to share that you could benefit from in your efforting in recovery. The people who have been around the block a time or two have taught me alot and I appreciate anything I can learn. So maybe you can drop the negative and learn too. It takes time to get there Liz. Humility is a wonderful thing in recovery.
Best Wishes,
PM
10
Cowgirl does not threaten people she helps them see things for what they really are. This board would be losing one of its most valuable members if she were to leave...........Her constant willingness to help the "newcomers" as well as the rest of us who need some support at times is done from the heart. I know personally that if it was not for the help I have received from her, I might have been in a different place right now myself.........She is one remarkable human being!


God Bless............Russell
11
So things have gotten a little out of hand in this recent exchange. We assume responsibility for not intervening sooner and can vouch for Cowgirl by saying that over the past eight months she has been a tremendous asset to this board. I believe her controversial comment was a warning that translates to something along the lines of: if you don't want to start off on the wrong foot here, show some respect for others whether you agree with their responses or not. Of course there are softer ways of saying this, but in Cowgirl's defense, it was in response to a rather rude comment addressed to her.

We certainly hope that this quarrel will end here and would like to offer our apologies for not responding sooner.

Sincerely,
The Moderators