LLH
Didnt want to bump up the whole thread, cus its quite old and im not sure if its an okay thing to do or not...John Dee, you just have a small post under mine that had a website link...hope you dont mind i copied it....knowing you i didnt think you would
The whole thread is quite good, but again, if it upsets people to bump upold threads then i will just cut out the one piece shown below..
Hope it helps llh
Ali
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alicap Posted: February 11, 2006, 7:08 PM
Hi everyone,
I know there is a lot of people out there suffering right now, and I wanted to offer up a bit of hope.
I truly started thinking i would never be the same, but in the last 2 days I've got my life back, and God willing it will continue.
When i say i was depressed, i really was hiding form y'all how badly i was depressed, and truth be told it wasn't till now i started feeling so good, that i know the difference..
Its almost like you are walking around with the wrong prescription sunglasses and someone finally gives you the proper lens....and you had no idea life has such color and definition.
I have stayed home, other than get groceries from a block away, since October, all and any invitations out, I declined and my hubby had to go alone, my housework had piled up to such a degree that although i wanted to be home and by mess, being around the clutter and chaos just made me further depressed, and yet still, i could not find the motivation to clean it up.
Avoiding bills is something I've never done, and yet i have literally months and months and months of unopened bills, id just send them a lump sum once a month and hope it covered them, and even doing that was a huge deal that i would procrastinate about doing till i drove myself nuts...
I recently went to a health food store, and as much as I've read up on narcotic uses and the changes that result in your brain- to hear another person so knowledgeable that was an actual drug counselor ( who worked at the health food store) was an amazing experience.
I had found her passion, she engaged me in talk for an hour almost, so excited about me telling her how pathetic i felt, and how much narcs i had once been doing...
She explained to me that when you use narcs over the long term, your adrenal glands get burnt out. literally exhausted....There are tests for this, but she said shed bet a million dollars by my symptoms, my adrenals were exhausted.
Having Low Cortisol also prevents belly fat, without having enough adrenaline, our cortisone levels rise, which cause stomach weight gain; so narc users will get a rounder belly, even though they have no weight issues....all because as a result of our adrenals being exhausted, we have too much cortisol...one affects the other...we also discussed the fact that anyone taking long time narc get constipation and it is common for people to gain 50 plus pounds just from not eliminating waste regularly...
Think about your adrenal glands...when you have an emergency,. you get a shot of adrenaline that makes you have the flight or fight response...you can run faster, lift heavier objects, all from having that extra surge of adrenalin.
Without having any adrenaline whatsoever however, you will have absolutely no motivation. nothing, forget running or being fast, you just cant get the simplest things done...complete adrenal exhaustion...
Now i really don't know if it was the celexa that finally kicked in or not, but the day i took the adrenal exhaustion pills was the first day of my miracle. today is day two, and again, its like a rebirth.....
I share this with you in the hopes that you can see yourself where i was, and know there is hope. Knowledge and experience should be shared, and everyone should try what works for them. For me, this has been the most incredible transformation I've ever had in my life. i kid you not....
I feel like I did pre-pill use, pre pill abuse, like i did when i was on top of the world and in my 20s.....I got it back...and i pray that happens for you all out there too
If we only address the spiritual and not physiological ( sp?) effects of our pill use and abuse, we are kidding ourselves..There are real changes that happen in our brain that cause us to feel like crap from long term narc use, but the good news is that our brains can learn to re make the things it stopped making..its the "if you don't use it you loses it" effect. Our brains stop making certain hormones and amino's, because of the false effects of the pills....
This is what i am on, please check with your Dr before starting all nutrients or vitamins, for contra indications of your medication or medical history.
A good homeopath can check you out and recommend all this to you, often even having their own compounding pharmacists who make personal dosages per individual..
There's been several posters who asked me what supplements I am taking, so thought id put it here for others as well...here's what i take on a daily basis..oh one more thing, if your adrenals are exhausted, you will feel the effects from the supplements almost immediately..within 24 hours of taking your first pill...but it has to be from a reputable health food store, which probably wouldn't be in a Safeway or anywhere like that...ask the professional in a health food or vitamin store....
5 HTP ( makes you brain make serotonin ) 100mg 1-1 a day
L-theanine ( well being amino acid) 100mg 1 1-2 a day on empty stomach
L-Tyrosine ( energy booster, anti-addiction) 500mg 1 1-2 times per day
Adrenal exhaustion...................................2- pills once or twice a day
( Brad Kings Ultimate Antistress is the brand i have but any good brand would do..make sure its to reduce cortisol levels and to get your adrenal glands working again)
* GABA - brains natural Valium...I only took during withdrawal but worth mentioning.
Hemp hearts...For cellular health and energy...tastes like nuts and sunflower seeds...contains high amounts of Vitamin E ( a natural anti-oxidant) and no it doesn't make you high, and it has more protein than a 7 ounce steak....do not eat them at night, cuz they keep you awake....You can eat them on yogurt or by the handful or make cookies from them..make sure you get the hearts, and or bits and pieces of heart along with shell...it has to be pure hemp hearts...these will not only give you energy but get even the most sluggish bowels moving again,
Well that's it, anyone interested, please try them, again check with your health care provider before you do, or go to a homeopath to learn more..
Again, we need to address the changes our brains have had from taking pills that affected our brains...its really common sense and science....and all the motivation in the world, all the spiritualism, or all the pep talks to self in the world wont make you feel better till you address these issues...
God bless you all
Hugs
Ali
This post has been edited by alicap on February 11, 2006, 7:10 PM
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JohnDee Posted: February 11, 2006, 7:20 PM
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Good info Ali, I posted about the same thing a year ago and this was the product I used, it worked well and a few people on the board at the time also ordered it and said it helped.
http://www.supreme-greens-msm.org/a...drenal-plus.htm
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Just one more that may help...
Posted: December 22, 2005, 8:01 PM
Posts: 4260
Joined: November 19, 2005
Hi there,
someone was asking me about the supplements i have been taking, and what the aminos do...thought i would give a rundown on them.
I also am taking BComplex, B12 chewable ( 1000mcg) Vitamin C slow release,
Potassium/calcium./magnesium ( has really helped with the muscle spasms)and a Vitamin E ( one daily)
Omega 3 ( the omega 3- 6-9 is not recommended by cardiologists because we get enough of the 6 & 9 and it contributes to fat in our arteries)
L-Tyrosine(energy) GABA ( natural valium type aid) 5-HTP ( as an anti-depressant..it makes our brains start to make more serotonin..NOT to be taken if you are already on an ANti depressant..)
Please KNOW that I am NOT a DOCTOR, but will try to explain what I have learned through research....you would be best to check with your homeopath....but here is a run down on aminos etc...
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GABA is produced by neurons from the amino acid glutamate, in the presence of vitamin B6
There are 4 neuro transmitters in your brain...serotonin, catecholamines, endorphines and GABA
( theres a big long name for GABA but its commonly referred to just as GABA)
Each of these 4 neuro transmitters have a specific job to do to keep your brain balanced or bio-balanced...and need the use of amino acids to work properly...too much or not enough of any amino acid can causes havoc, and the balance can be upset by the long term use of narcotics, or we can be born with a genetic tendency to have deficiencies...
BASICALLY if your neuro transmitters are fueled by the aminos and are well stocked, your mood will be postive, feel good
If the neuro transmitters are starved for their needed aminos...and are on the low side, you will feel crappy, have "defective" moods..
SEROTONIN:
If your HIGH in serotonin you are postive, happy, easy going
If your LOW in serotonin, you can be obsessive, worried iritable and sleepless
CATECHOLAMINES:
If your high in them....you are energized upbeat and alert
Low in them.....in a huge depressing funk
GABA:
If your high in GABA you are relaxed, peaceful, stress free
if your LOW..you are stressed out and anxious, and overwhelmed.
ENDORPHINS:
If you are high in endorphins...you are full of cozy feelings, feel pleasure, euphoria...
If your LOW in endorphins..you will be crying all the time, even over tissue commercials, feel sad and blue
Posted: December 22, 2005, 8:01 PM
Posts: 4260
Joined: November 19, 2005
Hi there,
someone was asking me about the supplements i have been taking, and what the aminos do...thought i would give a rundown on them.
I also am taking BComplex, B12 chewable ( 1000mcg) Vitamin C slow release,
Potassium/calcium./magnesium ( has really helped with the muscle spasms)and a Vitamin E ( one daily)
Omega 3 ( the omega 3- 6-9 is not recommended by cardiologists because we get enough of the 6 & 9 and it contributes to fat in our arteries)
L-Tyrosine(energy) GABA ( natural valium type aid) 5-HTP ( as an anti-depressant..it makes our brains start to make more serotonin..NOT to be taken if you are already on an ANti depressant..)
Please KNOW that I am NOT a DOCTOR, but will try to explain what I have learned through research....you would be best to check with your homeopath....but here is a run down on aminos etc...
.
GABA is produced by neurons from the amino acid glutamate, in the presence of vitamin B6
There are 4 neuro transmitters in your brain...serotonin, catecholamines, endorphines and GABA
( theres a big long name for GABA but its commonly referred to just as GABA)
Each of these 4 neuro transmitters have a specific job to do to keep your brain balanced or bio-balanced...and need the use of amino acids to work properly...too much or not enough of any amino acid can causes havoc, and the balance can be upset by the long term use of narcotics, or we can be born with a genetic tendency to have deficiencies...
BASICALLY if your neuro transmitters are fueled by the aminos and are well stocked, your mood will be postive, feel good
If the neuro transmitters are starved for their needed aminos...and are on the low side, you will feel crappy, have "defective" moods..
SEROTONIN:
If your HIGH in serotonin you are postive, happy, easy going
If your LOW in serotonin, you can be obsessive, worried iritable and sleepless
CATECHOLAMINES:
If your high in them....you are energized upbeat and alert
Low in them.....in a huge depressing funk
GABA:
If your high in GABA you are relaxed, peaceful, stress free
if your LOW..you are stressed out and anxious, and overwhelmed.
ENDORPHINS:
If you are high in endorphins...you are full of cozy feelings, feel pleasure, euphoria...
If your LOW in endorphins..you will be crying all the time, even over tissue commercials, feel sad and blue
great info ali..................
i see that you have a good heart............
the link is not working................
thumper
My Adrenal GLANDS SHUT DOWN 100% IN 1976 The doctors tried to reverse it and failed each time. 3 times nearly killing me. Twice was kinda dead they said??? Who knows.
I tried again in 2000-2001 as I was involved in a business among dear friends who wanted to give me a shot to revamp my adrenals. It was the worst w/D I have ever
experienced. I could not take it as when I got down to 2-3 mg of prednisone I was self medicating and it rollerballed so bad I knew i WOULD DIE.
That let to another rehab just for the doctors asses but I was so messed up.
So today I balance my day by deciding how prednisone I need to deal with the pain lack of energy etc. I am always looking for new ideas.
Just got home from a movie and went to whole foods to buy something called ALIVE Whole food energizer
I have been told its good stuff.
Anyway the day my adrenal gland shut down was the day my suffering started.
Wow long time ago--
Jeff
I tried again in 2000-2001 as I was involved in a business among dear friends who wanted to give me a shot to revamp my adrenals. It was the worst w/D I have ever
experienced. I could not take it as when I got down to 2-3 mg of prednisone I was self medicating and it rollerballed so bad I knew i WOULD DIE.
That let to another rehab just for the doctors asses but I was so messed up.
So today I balance my day by deciding how prednisone I need to deal with the pain lack of energy etc. I am always looking for new ideas.
Just got home from a movie and went to whole foods to buy something called ALIVE Whole food energizer
I have been told its good stuff.
Anyway the day my adrenal gland shut down was the day my suffering started.
Wow long time ago--
Jeff
JEFF
HOLY cow...i didnt even know they could shut down completely...i cant imagine how you survived that...i just remember that with both the Homeopath and the Naturaopath,,.they both said i had almost a non functioning adrenal gland, and i had so little energy and felt so weak that if i went for a walk around the block i wanted to just slump down and lay on the ground rather then step one more foot...
Your a frigging miracle!!!!!
What a blessing you fixed it in time..
Hows your Dad????
Hugs
Ali
HOLY cow...i didnt even know they could shut down completely...i cant imagine how you survived that...i just remember that with both the Homeopath and the Naturaopath,,.they both said i had almost a non functioning adrenal gland, and i had so little energy and felt so weak that if i went for a walk around the block i wanted to just slump down and lay on the ground rather then step one more foot...
Your a frigging miracle!!!!!
What a blessing you fixed it in time..
Hows your Dad????
Hugs
Ali
lets talk about this alittle more........
i was not aware of the fact the pain pill usage affectd your adrenal glands......
so when you detox............taking the adrenal plus makes withdraw alittle better on your body?
because the feeling that yoy have when your LOW on something.......
i have all those felings........
oh my especially today......it was grey and COLD all day..........
i know i have a bad case of SAD this year.......
i am really feeling terrible but trying to stay positive......
you are very educated about natural supplements ali........
i was not aware of the fact the pain pill usage affectd your adrenal glands......
so when you detox............taking the adrenal plus makes withdraw alittle better on your body?
because the feeling that yoy have when your LOW on something.......
i have all those felings........
oh my especially today......it was grey and COLD all day..........
i know i have a bad case of SAD this year.......
i am really feeling terrible but trying to stay positive......
you are very educated about natural supplements ali........
I am alive cause God dont want me yet. Have no clue why. That's what keeps me going. Curious why I am not dead.
Adrenal glands not my favorite topic. Bastards in 76 decided to blast me with a ton of prednisone I was in a special hospital for 3 months and they screwed me all up.
Today you read any protocol you WEAN SLOW off any steroid. Well for some reason they did the opposite to me and I went from 5" tall 115 pounds of rock muscle to 198 pounds at 5'2 and basically tried to eat myself into a grave.
depressed was speedballing adrenalin shots asthma meds with pot alcohol and dalmane at 15-16
I lost 60 pounds on my own--hard but did it. Its easy to gain weight and easy to lose for me. Its all mental.Hey today was cheat day ate 2 boxes of milk duds. LOL--they are the best.
Dad is in major pain. The doctor gave him percs but he gets sick from them and they do nothing anyway.
My dad had his knee replaced last year and my mom found some Demerol.
Gave it to him last night. Helped a little. But he basically will suffer and each day it will get a bit better. just need to get another 5-56 weeks and they do a test to see if he can get the second bag off. Minor surgery.
The fact that the cancer was contained? Thank God--and a bit of LUCK
Thanks for asking about my Dad. We figure April around the holidays he will be back to normal assuming no more setbacks.
Jeff
Adrenal glands not my favorite topic. Bastards in 76 decided to blast me with a ton of prednisone I was in a special hospital for 3 months and they screwed me all up.
Today you read any protocol you WEAN SLOW off any steroid. Well for some reason they did the opposite to me and I went from 5" tall 115 pounds of rock muscle to 198 pounds at 5'2 and basically tried to eat myself into a grave.
depressed was speedballing adrenalin shots asthma meds with pot alcohol and dalmane at 15-16
I lost 60 pounds on my own--hard but did it. Its easy to gain weight and easy to lose for me. Its all mental.Hey today was cheat day ate 2 boxes of milk duds. LOL--they are the best.
Dad is in major pain. The doctor gave him percs but he gets sick from them and they do nothing anyway.
My dad had his knee replaced last year and my mom found some Demerol.
Gave it to him last night. Helped a little. But he basically will suffer and each day it will get a bit better. just need to get another 5-56 weeks and they do a test to see if he can get the second bag off. Minor surgery.
The fact that the cancer was contained? Thank God--and a bit of LUCK
Thanks for asking about my Dad. We figure April around the holidays he will be back to normal assuming no more setbacks.
Jeff
jeffery............God Bless your mom and dad.
did you know we are the same height?
yes......
5 feet.....
God Bless you Jeffery..........
thumper...........
did you know we are the same height?
yes......
5 feet.....
God Bless you Jeffery..........
thumper...........
I hit a major Spurt aI am 5'5-
Beat you both 5 ' 11 1/2 "
ate my wheaties as a kid...my younger sister is 6"1" or 5" 13" as she likes to say...lol
What a blessing your Dad's cancer was contained....Holy....that is the absolute BEST news...
I hate to hear however that he is in pain...i wonder if he can take a gravol or anti nauseau at the same time as his pain meds....hubby had to do that with his last hip or knee replacement...cant remember which...just that until they realized he needed the gravol mixed in, he would get terribly violently nauseous...and after they mixed it..nada...
Jeff did you say in one of your posts recently that you are a Dr? i thought i read that but didnt want to ask you about it at the time as you were really worrying about your Dad and...well who needs small talk when thats happening...
Thumper...there is actual tests for your adrenals..to see if they are exhausted...i was told that if youve abused pain meds for any length of time, theres 100% certaintity that they are....
Too much of anything of course isnt good, and with Jeff it sounds like they for some reason went way over the top with it....almost like a guinea pig experience for cripes sake.....Jeff im amazed you didnt sue them...
thumper if you have a Naturopath in your area...get a simple blood test...i still have the first one i took ( you keep a copy) and the differences in all the amino acids and hormones, adrenals..is lie night and day....no wonder i felt soooo awful..
Hugs to you both
Ali
ate my wheaties as a kid...my younger sister is 6"1" or 5" 13" as she likes to say...lol
What a blessing your Dad's cancer was contained....Holy....that is the absolute BEST news...
I hate to hear however that he is in pain...i wonder if he can take a gravol or anti nauseau at the same time as his pain meds....hubby had to do that with his last hip or knee replacement...cant remember which...just that until they realized he needed the gravol mixed in, he would get terribly violently nauseous...and after they mixed it..nada...
Jeff did you say in one of your posts recently that you are a Dr? i thought i read that but didnt want to ask you about it at the time as you were really worrying about your Dad and...well who needs small talk when thats happening...
Thumper...there is actual tests for your adrenals..to see if they are exhausted...i was told that if youve abused pain meds for any length of time, theres 100% certaintity that they are....
Too much of anything of course isnt good, and with Jeff it sounds like they for some reason went way over the top with it....almost like a guinea pig experience for cripes sake.....Jeff im amazed you didnt sue them...
thumper if you have a Naturopath in your area...get a simple blood test...i still have the first one i took ( you keep a copy) and the differences in all the amino acids and hormones, adrenals..is lie night and day....no wonder i felt soooo awful..
Hugs to you both
Ali
Ali, is it okay to take the adrenal pills at night? I just finally feel like I have enough in my stomach to try to swallow a couple. Did you take them morning and night?
No I am no doctor--Not a legal one anyway.
Been selling since I can remember.
Love to sell.
Believe it or not my father after having half his insides ripped out is actually in less pain than before the operation.
Pain to him? Different. People all have different thresholds of pain and then there''s my old man.
Tough SOB
Jeff
Been selling since I can remember.
Love to sell.
Believe it or not my father after having half his insides ripped out is actually in less pain than before the operation.
Pain to him? Different. People all have different thresholds of pain and then there''s my old man.
Tough SOB
Jeff
LLH,
Doesn't matter when you take it as far as day or night...just so long as you take them as directed every single day ( or night ) i took mine at night ...You should feel the effect really fast, within days....the more you need it the faster you feel the results....
Please share your results here okay? Ill be thinking of you...and including you in prayers tonight...
Jeff,
So your not a Dr...hmm..it was in your good and bad news thread if i recall..must have been a typo...your not really a Dr..you just play one on T.V...lol
The fact your Mom had left over pain meds from his last operation says how tough he is right there...
When herb goes into the hospital I always tell the Drs that hes amazingly Stoic ( sp?) so if he says he hurts just a BIT....HES IN PAIN.....so i know what you mean when you say hes a tough SOB...lol
keep us posted as to his progress Jeff..hes lucky to have a loving wife there to help him recover, and a loving family for support...not everyone is lucky enough to have that....cant tell you how many times ive seen someone so sick in the hospital and for the elderly- in nursing homes..and absolutely NO ONE to visit...no one to be their spokesperson..or health advocate....so sad...
Hugs
Ali
Doesn't matter when you take it as far as day or night...just so long as you take them as directed every single day ( or night ) i took mine at night ...You should feel the effect really fast, within days....the more you need it the faster you feel the results....
Please share your results here okay? Ill be thinking of you...and including you in prayers tonight...
Jeff,
So your not a Dr...hmm..it was in your good and bad news thread if i recall..must have been a typo...your not really a Dr..you just play one on T.V...lol
The fact your Mom had left over pain meds from his last operation says how tough he is right there...
When herb goes into the hospital I always tell the Drs that hes amazingly Stoic ( sp?) so if he says he hurts just a BIT....HES IN PAIN.....so i know what you mean when you say hes a tough SOB...lol
keep us posted as to his progress Jeff..hes lucky to have a loving wife there to help him recover, and a loving family for support...not everyone is lucky enough to have that....cant tell you how many times ive seen someone so sick in the hospital and for the elderly- in nursing homes..and absolutely NO ONE to visit...no one to be their spokesperson..or health advocate....so sad...
Hugs
Ali
Dear Ali ~
The morning of September 3, 2005 I woke with severe epigastric abdominal pain, diarrhea, and nausea. I had just completed a five day course of Zithromax for an upper respiratory infection. It felt as if I had been sucker punched in my gut and I couldn't comfortably stand, sit, lie down or get into any position without experiencing intense pain.
With that, I contacted my PCP's doctor who was on call (it was a holiday weekend here in the states - oh how I loathe calling doctors). This doctor seemed to think that I had developed antibiotic gastritis and told me to go to the pharmacy and get some pepcid and immodium. Right on! Like I was going to be able to get into the car and drive to the pharmacy - I couldn't get off of the toilet due to the diarrhea. Thank God for a dear, dear, friend who went for me.
As the day progressed, my symptoms intensified. My friend who was here with me said this is enough, I'm taking you to the ER now. Now I've got to share with you, Ali, doctor's offices, hospitals, emergency rooms were places that at one time I considered establishments to gleefully frequent, because I always walked out with the drugs for my addiction. What a master manipulator I was and how sad to admit that I enjoyed going to see a doctor for drugs for some make believe illness much more than the swankiest of soiree's that I often received invitations to, which more oft than not, I declined those invitations. I was an addict in the truest form of the word until July 1, 1998 when I finally realized that the gig was up. Yet, I digress and this is beside the point because there is something else I would like your input on.
Upon presenting to this ER, two IV's were started wide open because I was extremely dehydrated. Blood work was drawn and my white count was a little elevated - electrolytes were a somewhat off - but not to levels that would cause any grave concern.
This beautiful spirit of a doctor, came into the examining room to check me out. He concurred that this was probably a case of antibiotic gastritis; however, something nudged him to dig a little deeper. I choose to believe it was God and this doctor ordered a CT of my abdomen/pelvis.
As I returned from the CT, Ali, this nurse walks into my room with a syringe in her hand. She said I've got to give you this injection, to which I asked what are you giving me? She said, 4 mg Dilaudid IV, to which I responded absolutely not, I am not in the pain that I was in prior to coming here and before I could say anymore, she was pushing it in the IV.
Within 2 minutes, I felt like that retired Colonel who ran for vice president back in the 80's with Ross Perot during the vice presidential debates - who am I? Where am I? What am I? Whooooa - it has been 7 years since I had anything like that hit me and then the doctor walked in. It wasn't the original doctor who had taken care of me when I first got to the ER. There had been a shift change and this young whippersnapper came into my room - introduced himself to me - and said, Sammy, we are going to have to admit you to the hospital. I just looked at him; my brow wrinkled, and a quizzical look on my face and asked why? Then he proceeded to tell me that they had discovered a 13 cm tumor on my right kidney that was highly suggested to be a malignancy.
LMAO - now I know why they loaded me up with the narcotics - guess they wanted to soften the blow of this news flash they had just given me? I believe it was more for them than for me, as the pitiful look on this young man's face reminded me of a bassett hound I once owned. Let someone tell you that you have a 13 cm tumor that is highly suggestive of a malignancy and see how fast you sober up!
I looked at this young man - thanked him for his concern - and asked him - hey doc, you really think you are going to have me stay in a hospital room over a holiday weekend, very well knowing that there will be no specialist that will see me until 4 days later? I'm going home, where I can contact my family, friends, sponsor, priest, and the many medical experts that I know to see what options are available to me. Pull these IV's out of me and stop pushing this crapola into my veins - I need to connect to my spirit within and decided just how much power I am going to give to this problem. He told me if my PCP agreed, he would let me go and quickly exited the room and made his phone call. Pooh - PCP or no PCP, I was going home where I knew I would flourish and flourish I did!
By Tuesday I had booked an appointment with one of the top uro/oncologists in the U.S. How fortunate for me that he happens to practice in the city I live in. I was able to finish up some work projects and on September 13, 2005 I underwent a radical right nephrectomy. There's a five page operative report that I will spare you with; however, I will tell you that on the pathology report the tumor consisted of renal cell carcinoma, clear cell and granular cell types. Tumor size 13cm; Nuclear grade 3 (out of 4); Renal vein involvement not identified; Extracapsular extensions not identified; surgical margins negative for tumor; Pathologic state T2 NX MX. In addition to no right kidney, I have no right adrenal gland. I was told that the Nuclear grade was so high because of the size of the tumor.
Follow up treatment consists of a CT scan of my abdo/pelvis every 6 months. What a lucky gal I am in that I have had the blessed opportunity to have 5 CT scans of my abdo/pelvis due to other complications and have acquired a taste for barium! I highly recommend the berry flavored ones. I am on first name basis with the radiologists and their staff at the hospital where I have these tests...I always did love making new friends! :)
Now - getting to the questions I would like your answers on about this adrenal gland supplement stuff, my latest CT reveals the left adrenal gland measures approximately 3.05 x 2.3 cm on image #124. On initial image #24 it measures 2.8 x 2.7 cm. During contrast administration it measure plus 42 HU in density. On delayed images the left adrenal gland measures 16.7 HU in density. These density changes are NOT consistent with an adenoma, and MRI with in and out-of-phase imaging is recommended for further evaluation. Oh and just for kicks - there is a hypodensity of the anterior mid pole of the left kidney just slightly higher in density than expected for a simple cyst.
I feel terrific - physically, emotionally, and most of all spiritually. However, since you are a wealth of information about all these herbal remedies and how they affect the adrenal glands, I would really appreciate any suggestions you care to share about how they can help my situation. I know you are a smart woman and have studied in the medical arena, so I'm sure you understand what I have reported in the pathology above.
Thanking you in advance for your kind help with my situation.
Namaste ~
Sammy
The morning of September 3, 2005 I woke with severe epigastric abdominal pain, diarrhea, and nausea. I had just completed a five day course of Zithromax for an upper respiratory infection. It felt as if I had been sucker punched in my gut and I couldn't comfortably stand, sit, lie down or get into any position without experiencing intense pain.
With that, I contacted my PCP's doctor who was on call (it was a holiday weekend here in the states - oh how I loathe calling doctors). This doctor seemed to think that I had developed antibiotic gastritis and told me to go to the pharmacy and get some pepcid and immodium. Right on! Like I was going to be able to get into the car and drive to the pharmacy - I couldn't get off of the toilet due to the diarrhea. Thank God for a dear, dear, friend who went for me.
As the day progressed, my symptoms intensified. My friend who was here with me said this is enough, I'm taking you to the ER now. Now I've got to share with you, Ali, doctor's offices, hospitals, emergency rooms were places that at one time I considered establishments to gleefully frequent, because I always walked out with the drugs for my addiction. What a master manipulator I was and how sad to admit that I enjoyed going to see a doctor for drugs for some make believe illness much more than the swankiest of soiree's that I often received invitations to, which more oft than not, I declined those invitations. I was an addict in the truest form of the word until July 1, 1998 when I finally realized that the gig was up. Yet, I digress and this is beside the point because there is something else I would like your input on.
Upon presenting to this ER, two IV's were started wide open because I was extremely dehydrated. Blood work was drawn and my white count was a little elevated - electrolytes were a somewhat off - but not to levels that would cause any grave concern.
This beautiful spirit of a doctor, came into the examining room to check me out. He concurred that this was probably a case of antibiotic gastritis; however, something nudged him to dig a little deeper. I choose to believe it was God and this doctor ordered a CT of my abdomen/pelvis.
As I returned from the CT, Ali, this nurse walks into my room with a syringe in her hand. She said I've got to give you this injection, to which I asked what are you giving me? She said, 4 mg Dilaudid IV, to which I responded absolutely not, I am not in the pain that I was in prior to coming here and before I could say anymore, she was pushing it in the IV.
Within 2 minutes, I felt like that retired Colonel who ran for vice president back in the 80's with Ross Perot during the vice presidential debates - who am I? Where am I? What am I? Whooooa - it has been 7 years since I had anything like that hit me and then the doctor walked in. It wasn't the original doctor who had taken care of me when I first got to the ER. There had been a shift change and this young whippersnapper came into my room - introduced himself to me - and said, Sammy, we are going to have to admit you to the hospital. I just looked at him; my brow wrinkled, and a quizzical look on my face and asked why? Then he proceeded to tell me that they had discovered a 13 cm tumor on my right kidney that was highly suggested to be a malignancy.
LMAO - now I know why they loaded me up with the narcotics - guess they wanted to soften the blow of this news flash they had just given me? I believe it was more for them than for me, as the pitiful look on this young man's face reminded me of a bassett hound I once owned. Let someone tell you that you have a 13 cm tumor that is highly suggestive of a malignancy and see how fast you sober up!
I looked at this young man - thanked him for his concern - and asked him - hey doc, you really think you are going to have me stay in a hospital room over a holiday weekend, very well knowing that there will be no specialist that will see me until 4 days later? I'm going home, where I can contact my family, friends, sponsor, priest, and the many medical experts that I know to see what options are available to me. Pull these IV's out of me and stop pushing this crapola into my veins - I need to connect to my spirit within and decided just how much power I am going to give to this problem. He told me if my PCP agreed, he would let me go and quickly exited the room and made his phone call. Pooh - PCP or no PCP, I was going home where I knew I would flourish and flourish I did!
By Tuesday I had booked an appointment with one of the top uro/oncologists in the U.S. How fortunate for me that he happens to practice in the city I live in. I was able to finish up some work projects and on September 13, 2005 I underwent a radical right nephrectomy. There's a five page operative report that I will spare you with; however, I will tell you that on the pathology report the tumor consisted of renal cell carcinoma, clear cell and granular cell types. Tumor size 13cm; Nuclear grade 3 (out of 4); Renal vein involvement not identified; Extracapsular extensions not identified; surgical margins negative for tumor; Pathologic state T2 NX MX. In addition to no right kidney, I have no right adrenal gland. I was told that the Nuclear grade was so high because of the size of the tumor.
Follow up treatment consists of a CT scan of my abdo/pelvis every 6 months. What a lucky gal I am in that I have had the blessed opportunity to have 5 CT scans of my abdo/pelvis due to other complications and have acquired a taste for barium! I highly recommend the berry flavored ones. I am on first name basis with the radiologists and their staff at the hospital where I have these tests...I always did love making new friends! :)
Now - getting to the questions I would like your answers on about this adrenal gland supplement stuff, my latest CT reveals the left adrenal gland measures approximately 3.05 x 2.3 cm on image #124. On initial image #24 it measures 2.8 x 2.7 cm. During contrast administration it measure plus 42 HU in density. On delayed images the left adrenal gland measures 16.7 HU in density. These density changes are NOT consistent with an adenoma, and MRI with in and out-of-phase imaging is recommended for further evaluation. Oh and just for kicks - there is a hypodensity of the anterior mid pole of the left kidney just slightly higher in density than expected for a simple cyst.
I feel terrific - physically, emotionally, and most of all spiritually. However, since you are a wealth of information about all these herbal remedies and how they affect the adrenal glands, I would really appreciate any suggestions you care to share about how they can help my situation. I know you are a smart woman and have studied in the medical arena, so I'm sure you understand what I have reported in the pathology above.
Thanking you in advance for your kind help with my situation.
Namaste ~
Sammy
Sammy its close to being past one in the morning and been a long exhausting day...
Last night i didnt sleep a wink...got to sleep for maybe 20 mins...but couldnt stay to sleep...''
dont know why...im very sensitive to full moons, but suffice to say im exhausted and am having trouble concentrating...
I have too much respect to you to just peruse through and post some generic answer, so with that being said, please know that tomorrow, once Herb is sitting comfortably with his hot dog and teriaki chicken wings..lol and watching the Superbowl, i'll have some quiet time to really read your post thouroughly and will then give you my very best advice..,
Im honored you would ask me...
Night Sammy,
Til Then
Hugs,
Ali
Last night i didnt sleep a wink...got to sleep for maybe 20 mins...but couldnt stay to sleep...''
dont know why...im very sensitive to full moons, but suffice to say im exhausted and am having trouble concentrating...
I have too much respect to you to just peruse through and post some generic answer, so with that being said, please know that tomorrow, once Herb is sitting comfortably with his hot dog and teriaki chicken wings..lol and watching the Superbowl, i'll have some quiet time to really read your post thouroughly and will then give you my very best advice..,
Im honored you would ask me...
Night Sammy,
Til Then
Hugs,
Ali
Sammy,
I read your post and I'm so concerned.
I just hope that Ali can offer you some glimmer of hope.
I love you.
Sharon
I read your post and I'm so concerned.
I just hope that Ali can offer you some glimmer of hope.
I love you.
Sharon
Ali, I also am very interested in the Adrenal Support, I have googled the hell out of it, and I am not sure which is the best product to buy. Or is there a test my
PCP can do to see if they are depleted?
How do we know when we purchase stuff like this, that we are getting the right amount? So for me, since you went to a neuropath, I am very interested in how he did the tests, and recommendations on the supplement.
Want my address so you can mail me some? lol jk
I am a GNC junkie, love the smell of vitamins when you first open the bottle.
Or any links to websites would be appreciated. I do not have your email anymore so if you could email me, I would love to chat offline about this as well.
Thanks
PCP can do to see if they are depleted?
How do we know when we purchase stuff like this, that we are getting the right amount? So for me, since you went to a neuropath, I am very interested in how he did the tests, and recommendations on the supplement.
Want my address so you can mail me some? lol jk
I am a GNC junkie, love the smell of vitamins when you first open the bottle.
Or any links to websites would be appreciated. I do not have your email anymore so if you could email me, I would love to chat offline about this as well.
Thanks
Want to add, thank you Sammy for the phone conversation last night and the referral.
I am one to try the natural route to anything before any type of in office or out patient procedures, which is so ironic, I used to think the opposite.
And I am looking forward to you cooking dinner for me. (snicker) what was the name of that restaurant again? lolol
Pheasant under glass and caviar would be nice.. smile..
I am one to try the natural route to anything before any type of in office or out patient procedures, which is so ironic, I used to think the opposite.
And I am looking forward to you cooking dinner for me. (snicker) what was the name of that restaurant again? lolol
Pheasant under glass and caviar would be nice.. smile..
Hey there, Sammy,
I'm glad Ali has the answers for you. Personally, I read that twice and was still unclear exactly what the problem was, lol.
Hang in there!
xxxxxoooo
I'm glad Ali has the answers for you. Personally, I read that twice and was still unclear exactly what the problem was, lol.
Hang in there!
xxxxxoooo
Brooke
what you do with my email??lol
sure ill send you off an email honey..with my phone number if you like..i lost your phone number so i guess we're even ..lol
getting a good one is really important...
there was a link to a really good one that was on that thread....did you look at the link that Tom had underneath mine on this thread...i included it knowing he wouldnt mind....
Brooke..im confused as to whether its kauteur ( sp?) to bump up an old thread...did 3 recently that all started with X for Xanax but a poster got upset with me for doing so....
Is it okay to bump up an old thread if your intent is to just share relevant info??
What do you think? Id like to bump that whole darn thread up cus it has so many good posts, and various people recommended brands if i recall...
Since im in Canada im not sure if my brands are the same as yours all the time..
If you think no one will get mad ill bump it up..i did start it so....??
Meantime will shoot you off an email...pretty sure you wont be getting it right now..game is about to start...but later will do...
Enjoy the game honey...
Hugs
Ali
Kat...Sorry if i didnt explain it well...its hard to describe to suffice to say that it either makes a HUGE difference in how you feel, or it doesnt..it also depends on if you take it as Recommended and not just now and then...
Miss Sammy
Going to go and get my comfy slippers on my feet are so cold and ill address the post from last night...
Hope everyone enjoys the big Game!!!
Hugs around
Ali
what you do with my email??lol
sure ill send you off an email honey..with my phone number if you like..i lost your phone number so i guess we're even ..lol
getting a good one is really important...
there was a link to a really good one that was on that thread....did you look at the link that Tom had underneath mine on this thread...i included it knowing he wouldnt mind....
Brooke..im confused as to whether its kauteur ( sp?) to bump up an old thread...did 3 recently that all started with X for Xanax but a poster got upset with me for doing so....
Is it okay to bump up an old thread if your intent is to just share relevant info??
What do you think? Id like to bump that whole darn thread up cus it has so many good posts, and various people recommended brands if i recall...
Since im in Canada im not sure if my brands are the same as yours all the time..
If you think no one will get mad ill bump it up..i did start it so....??
Meantime will shoot you off an email...pretty sure you wont be getting it right now..game is about to start...but later will do...
Enjoy the game honey...
Hugs
Ali
Kat...Sorry if i didnt explain it well...its hard to describe to suffice to say that it either makes a HUGE difference in how you feel, or it doesnt..it also depends on if you take it as Recommended and not just now and then...
Miss Sammy
Going to go and get my comfy slippers on my feet are so cold and ill address the post from last night...
Hope everyone enjoys the big Game!!!
Hugs around
Ali
