My boyfriend has been addicted to Heroin for about 6 yrs. He's had periods when he's been clean but when life gets tough he seems to turn back to it. He's taken subutex a few times to help get clean. He's recently gone back to his doctor for help and they've asked him to go in and discuss trying methadone. I've read so many horror stories on here about people getting just as addicted to methadone, and horrible side effects. Will it be a mistake if he starts this treatment? I'm scared and confused why can't they just give him subutex again?
Although there are many horror stories associated with mdone- - thier are many success stories. I dont defend it nor do I reject it as a form of treatment.
One should get educated with this treatment before they even think about it. Now adays the sub drugs are a very effective way to go. However ,its not the only way to go.
Heroin addiction brings a load of physical,and social problems. From illness thru sharing ,to the crimes that are sometimes resorted to, to keep the sickness at bay.
There are many sites you can go to to get information- try to find one that is just about the facts - not a pro or con website.
No treatment with any type of success should be totally ruled out and this should include mdone- - but do your homework
http://www.medicalassistedtreatment...4436/index.html
One should get educated with this treatment before they even think about it. Now adays the sub drugs are a very effective way to go. However ,its not the only way to go.
Heroin addiction brings a load of physical,and social problems. From illness thru sharing ,to the crimes that are sometimes resorted to, to keep the sickness at bay.
There are many sites you can go to to get information- try to find one that is just about the facts - not a pro or con website.
No treatment with any type of success should be totally ruled out and this should include mdone- - but do your homework
http://www.medicalassistedtreatment...4436/index.html
hi,it really aint a good idea if he has meth he'll be replaceing one thing for another.
http://www.medicalassistedtreatment....com/57642.html
Sorry - I think I meant to post this one- - Im kind of computer stupid
Sorry - I think I meant to post this one- - Im kind of computer stupid
Thanks Guys,
I'll tell him to take a look at Jacks link himself, The rotten teeth myth really worried me.
Dale, have u any expereince urself with meth?
I'll tell him to take a look at Jacks link himself, The rotten teeth myth really worried me.
Dale, have u any expereince urself with meth?
Hi Kirsty
I think jackofhartzz has given you some very good advice. I've been an addict for over 30 yrs and have been put on methadone many times. now, when I look back I realise most of the times I used meth was to get me over the times when Heroin was in short supply. So I abused the treatment.
Now, at the age of 50 felt I had to sort myself out, not easy when I've re-lapsed so many times, but I spent all of 2006 on meth starting at 95mls down to 30mls. In Dec 06 I started on Sub, this time I used the meth properly and it helped me to stablise my life enabling me to stay away from other users, stop criminal activities etc. So it can be helpful, but needs total understanding.
I hope your b/f makes it, please look after yourself as well.
Peter
I think jackofhartzz has given you some very good advice. I've been an addict for over 30 yrs and have been put on methadone many times. now, when I look back I realise most of the times I used meth was to get me over the times when Heroin was in short supply. So I abused the treatment.
Now, at the age of 50 felt I had to sort myself out, not easy when I've re-lapsed so many times, but I spent all of 2006 on meth starting at 95mls down to 30mls. In Dec 06 I started on Sub, this time I used the meth properly and it helped me to stablise my life enabling me to stay away from other users, stop criminal activities etc. So it can be helpful, but needs total understanding.
I hope your b/f makes it, please look after yourself as well.
Peter
jACK'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. hE SHOULD DO THE RESEARCH. mETHADONE'S NOT FOR EVERYONE. mETHADONE CAN BE ABUSED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DRUG AND i THINK THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE HORROR STORIES COME FROM. fOR ME, METHADONE HAS ENABLED ME TO KEEP STEADY EMPLOYMENT AND A ROOF OVER MY HEAD. iT ALLOWS YOU TO STAY AWAY FROM THE "STREET'S" AND OTHER BAD ELEMENTS WHILE YOU SORT YOUR SH%& OUT. I'VE BEEN ON METHADONE FOR A LONG TIME AND I'M STILL NOT READY TO DETOX BUT THAT'S MY BAD NOT METHADONE. iT WORKS WONDERS FOR SOME AND NOT OTHERS. I THINK IT DEPENDS ALOT ON HOW OLD YOU ARE, HOW MUCH YOU'VE BEEN USING, AND HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN USING. i WISH YOUR BF GOOD LUCK.
i have been counseling herion addicts for years,methadone should be your last option,but if used in the right way it may be helpful:
you should start with a low dose and VERY slowly tapper off the methadone.also support groups and counseling are a must.and put up hobbies(if you are taking something out of your life you must up somthing in place of it.methadone will take away the craving for heroin but it does not take away the addict!
you should start with a low dose and VERY slowly tapper off the methadone.also support groups and counseling are a must.and put up hobbies(if you are taking something out of your life you must up somthing in place of it.methadone will take away the craving for heroin but it does not take away the addict!
Hi Laura
Good to see a counsler on this board. Your experiance is welcome.
Good to see a counsler on this board. Your experiance is welcome.
Laura, would you suggest that he tries subutex again instead of the methadone?
Terrapin/Shirley, He's 28 been using on and off for 6 years or so. Not sure exactly how much though!
Hi Kirsty, The reason I said that about how long he was using and how old he is.....well, that's becaus I also believe methadone is a last resort treatment. If a person is not too far gone and he/she goes on methadone...then they really got problems! Subs works better for younger people, or so I've been told. If your bf has been using for 6 years, he may profit from methadone but at the same time, he's young enough to to detox on subs and maybe live drug free. I was 43 and had been using heroin for 10 years when I went on methadone. The Dr. recomended long term maintenence because of my age and health. (hep c and high blood pressure) When I tried to go on subs, my counsellor told me that I wasn't a good candidate because of my age and the amt. of time I had used and the level of methadone I was on. (100mg. daily.) For all I know, she could be full of it. Bottom line...you'll get alot of different advice from different people. You and your old man will have to weigh the options. I hope what I just said makes sense because sometimes I ramble. lol.
my bf been using opium for 4 yrs.hes now on met and works very well for him he startred on 30mg and now hes just today been put upto 70mg maybe this is his right dose .
its not just the meth that works i think but he eventually realised he had a problem he has tried before to come off opium using met but then starter smoking crack .then just one week ago went back to doctor .this time though it wasnt my ultimanium it was his choice so maybe this time he will stop .he has stoped the opuim altogtehr and the carck hes bringing it down daily he says its all in your brain and your body doesnt need crack and if that helps him then thats good for us .but everybody is different and i now believe that .
its not just the meth that works i think but he eventually realised he had a problem he has tried before to come off opium using met but then starter smoking crack .then just one week ago went back to doctor .this time though it wasnt my ultimanium it was his choice so maybe this time he will stop .he has stoped the opuim altogtehr and the carck hes bringing it down daily he says its all in your brain and your body doesnt need crack and if that helps him then thats good for us .but everybody is different and i now believe that .
you are right, there ars loads or horror stories but there are also loads or success stories about methadone. its not the matter of everyone else saying what he should do, it is just about what he feels will be better for him and if methadone will do the job for him then he should go for it. there are a few side effects but nothing to drastic and everyone is different. have a chat with him and if he feels starting methadone is the best option for him then you should support him. i went on methadone and it is the best thing i could have done but as for getting off it, it takes longer but while doing this he will be stable.
i hope he does well and good luck to you both.
i am writing a book about drug use and am very interested in hearing your sid eof the story from a family members view so i would be grateful if you can let me know on my topic.
thank you
take care
darrelle
i hope he does well and good luck to you both.
i am writing a book about drug use and am very interested in hearing your sid eof the story from a family members view so i would be grateful if you can let me know on my topic.
thank you
take care
darrelle
