None4me

Hello none I have read and reread alot of things about you and from you.You seem very wise in all this.You stated yesterday about the dangers ofA/D and addicts and if you have any info more I would love to have it.I don't want to go from the frying pan into the fire and want to reasearch before Thursdays Dr appointment...mj
Hi Mj,

I'm far from wise. lol But nice of you to say anyway. Not sure what you're referring to about "the dangers of A/D and addicts." Are you sure it was me who wrote it?
I think it was you.It was a conversation about antideppresion and addiction if it wasn't you I'm sorry but I do need to say to you that sometimes you come on strong and sometimes thats the way as far as you saying about my tapering you are so right on that.I feel stronger today I also feel so bad for laying my breakdown yesterday for all to see.You people here treat me better than my own family and I will always be grateful for that...mj
Dear none you were right I was talking with neon I'm sorry I sometimes have these mind farts.But I also like your advise you have away of putting a mirror up to force me to look at myself...mj
No, I don't remember saying anything about that, but I guess do think that the saying "First things first" applies in that context. Sometimes I think we fool ourselves by thinking that "if I only wasn't depressed," or "If I only could get out of debt," or "If I only could get my kids back," or "If I can just get through Christmas," etc., then we could and would stop taking pain pills. My personal opinion, and it's only that, is that first we have to stop using no matter what. Address the addiction as a primary symptom that needs immediate treatment. At least then, we're dealing with a clean baseline from which to assess the need for anti-depressant medication.

Many do need an A/D in early recovery -- I myself took Wellbutrin that was prescribed for my not smoking, and I believe it helped with both -- but I think one of the keys to the effectiveness A/D's is that we're no longer self-medicating with pain meds at the same time. Just my opinion, though, and I'm certainly no doctor. M.
You may not be a Dr but you seem to know alot I think I could learn much from you.Alot of times already I've just sat here and read but you are a very straight shooter when it comes to expressing your feelings as I said you have made me look myself in the eyes and seek what I've been avoiding..mj