It's been 21 days since i had anything( drugs, drink & cigs) and although i'm feeling good ect, i can't stop eating, it is doing my head in!! Also can't stop thinking about drugs & sex. Altough i have NO intention to take any drugs i can't stop thinking about them. Stopped taking Naltrexone about 3 weeks ago and more n more i'm getting back to my old self, but in a way i think they must have suppressed my appetite, libido and my cravins for drugs as they are on my mind constantly.....
The food thing is worrying me the most as i am eating so much **** it's disgusting. If you offered me a bag of H right now i'd tell you to chase your tail, but offer me a mars bar....AAARRRGGGHHHH
Anyone had similar probs? I know this might sound really mundane, but it is really worrying me as i'm eating myself and my sis out of home lol.
Any ideas???
Peace n P Vibes, Kev
I think you have every reason to be worried...
You have a drug worker still who you can call and get info from...
Ok, you know you are eating to muchso get tough on yourself and set limitsyou know when and what you should be eating
I wonder if the reward center of your brain is trying to right itself and with the naltrexone gone, even as I dont know how that would play into thisbut you did notice the change when you stopped it, right???
Heroin takes the reward center over and actually becomes the incentiveeven wd is an incentiveSo instead of food, water, sex as being seen as needed for survival, only heroin isbut there is no heroin anymore
The not smoking might play as wellmany smoke when they are worried, angry, boredyou think you are using food to satiate yourselffilling in the gaps that the drugs use to
Ideas sure, exercise will help let the natural endorphins flowwhen you want to eat and you know it isnt time for you to be hungry or you know you dont need to betake a walk instead, a run.redirection can be a real good thing!
Good luck!
Love,
Tina
You have a drug worker still who you can call and get info from...
Ok, you know you are eating to muchso get tough on yourself and set limitsyou know when and what you should be eating
I wonder if the reward center of your brain is trying to right itself and with the naltrexone gone, even as I dont know how that would play into thisbut you did notice the change when you stopped it, right???
Heroin takes the reward center over and actually becomes the incentiveeven wd is an incentiveSo instead of food, water, sex as being seen as needed for survival, only heroin isbut there is no heroin anymore
The not smoking might play as wellmany smoke when they are worried, angry, boredyou think you are using food to satiate yourselffilling in the gaps that the drugs use to
Ideas sure, exercise will help let the natural endorphins flowwhen you want to eat and you know it isnt time for you to be hungry or you know you dont need to betake a walk instead, a run.redirection can be a real good thing!
Good luck!
Love,
Tina
Kev,
Your title of this thread sounds like a "Jackson Five" tune. LOL I know you are worried, but just thought I'd give ya a lil laugh.
Yo, I think Tina is on to something with the not smoking..........just my backward guess I think it's mostly because ya quit smoking regarding the food catagory.
Hey, we're addicts..............got to always be something..............never moderation, right, Kev?
Now don't be getting no "MANorexia"..............I've seen that is on the uprise and I am serious..........I'm going to go look some stuff up on this........Kev, congrats though, man...........you're doing really well.............and beating the smokes...........I got great respect for ya.
Your title of this thread sounds like a "Jackson Five" tune. LOL I know you are worried, but just thought I'd give ya a lil laugh.
Yo, I think Tina is on to something with the not smoking..........just my backward guess I think it's mostly because ya quit smoking regarding the food catagory.
Hey, we're addicts..............got to always be something..............never moderation, right, Kev?
Now don't be getting no "MANorexia"..............I've seen that is on the uprise and I am serious..........I'm going to go look some stuff up on this........Kev, congrats though, man...........you're doing really well.............and beating the smokes...........I got great respect for ya.
Thanks for the replies. Tina can you explain a bit more what you were on about regarding the reward centre thing? Cheers There's so much about addiction, recovery, getting better and most of all staying 'better', that i don't know about. I'll need to get down to the library more often.
Bryn no intention of going anorexic, MAN orexic as you put it, like my food too much, but i'll need to do something as i've put on lots of weight in the past few weeks.
Bryn, it's 1 am in the morningg here, i was just away to go to my bed , but now i've got that jackson 5 song in my head........nnnnoooooooooo LOL
Bryn no intention of going anorexic, MAN orexic as you put it, like my food too much, but i'll need to do something as i've put on lots of weight in the past few weeks.
Bryn, it's 1 am in the morningg here, i was just away to go to my bed , but now i've got that jackson 5 song in my head........nnnnoooooooooo LOL
I am tiptoeing here cause I watch, so bear with me
Heroin hijacks the reward center, and takes it over, becoming more important then food, water, sex, shelter as a basic need to survivenow this make sense I am sure to youcause hello addiction.
So you took the heroin away, blocked the receptors with the naltrexone so you couldnt/didnt useand naltrexone seems to me more a psychological thing, knowing you are taking it therefore why get a bag , it isnt gonna workhelps to remove the obsession
Then you took it all away, including the smoking which does alter the brain as welleffects mood just as the heroin did.
And I am wondering if your brain is waking up, healingbut it is still in the learning stage of what is normalyou are craving sex which is basic need, eating constantly which is a basic need but not in excess, and craving drugs which is not one but sure would be if you let it
But what is this.
It is just a relearning process and in time you will be ok, or is it more
You wouldnt have posted if you werent worried
I would look deep with this, if the eating is uncontrollable you need to find out why for you.
Could you be using food to fill a void, or to alter your mood?
Maybe keep a food journal, what you eat, when and if it is more a time to eat thing or if there is a trigger or mood behind it.
I would also add in some exercise as it produces those normal happy feel good chemicals that we all have inside, sex does as well, and so does foodit is about balance, feeling good, normal, in mind body and spiritexercise goes a long way with all three of those.
I am sure I have links to the effects on the brain, if you want them I can post them, just askbut honestly knowing how it works isnt as important as figuring out what this is for you.
Sweet dreams
Love,
Tina
Heroin hijacks the reward center, and takes it over, becoming more important then food, water, sex, shelter as a basic need to survivenow this make sense I am sure to youcause hello addiction.
So you took the heroin away, blocked the receptors with the naltrexone so you couldnt/didnt useand naltrexone seems to me more a psychological thing, knowing you are taking it therefore why get a bag , it isnt gonna workhelps to remove the obsession
Then you took it all away, including the smoking which does alter the brain as welleffects mood just as the heroin did.
And I am wondering if your brain is waking up, healingbut it is still in the learning stage of what is normalyou are craving sex which is basic need, eating constantly which is a basic need but not in excess, and craving drugs which is not one but sure would be if you let it
But what is this.
It is just a relearning process and in time you will be ok, or is it more
You wouldnt have posted if you werent worried
I would look deep with this, if the eating is uncontrollable you need to find out why for you.
Could you be using food to fill a void, or to alter your mood?
Maybe keep a food journal, what you eat, when and if it is more a time to eat thing or if there is a trigger or mood behind it.
I would also add in some exercise as it produces those normal happy feel good chemicals that we all have inside, sex does as well, and so does foodit is about balance, feeling good, normal, in mind body and spiritexercise goes a long way with all three of those.
I am sure I have links to the effects on the brain, if you want them I can post them, just askbut honestly knowing how it works isnt as important as figuring out what this is for you.
Sweet dreams
Love,
Tina
Kev, Tina explained that right well I think.........brain chemistry and all......and then I was looking stuff up about it and found this link below.
Says they did this study and naltrexone laters taste perception and nutrient intake. According to this anyway..........maybe it's complex as in it's both as Tina explained and then the physiological.......like this.
"Simple as do, re, me ABC baby you and me"............YIKES!
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/cgi/c...tract/261/1/R59
Hope that link worked..........step away from the Mars bars...........picture Bryn with bullhorn coercing Kev out the house yelling "Come out with your hands Mars Bar free, down on the ground, down on the ground drop the Cadburry".
PS your all chocolate ain't worth the calories, Kev.......LOL! Hershey is!
Says they did this study and naltrexone laters taste perception and nutrient intake. According to this anyway..........maybe it's complex as in it's both as Tina explained and then the physiological.......like this.
"Simple as do, re, me ABC baby you and me"............YIKES!
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/cgi/c...tract/261/1/R59
Hope that link worked..........step away from the Mars bars...........picture Bryn with bullhorn coercing Kev out the house yelling "Come out with your hands Mars Bar free, down on the ground, down on the ground drop the Cadburry".
PS your all chocolate ain't worth the calories, Kev.......LOL! Hershey is!
thank you peeps, much appreciated, Kev
No, thank you Kev..........that was interesting stuff about the taste of food and all.........did ya see they gave the recovering addicts KOOL-AID?
KOOL-AID is the ultimate..........it's a ton of sugar in this packet and some awful dyes, and ya add water...........and ya drink it........especially healthy when people put it in a baby's bottle.........growing up I knew people that did that.........not good.
Salt too they mentioned so maybe?
If you ever get KOOL_AID over in your neck of the woods........maybe ya even have it ya say it like this.........."What flavor?" someone asks and you say "RED".........nobody calls it cherry........plus KOOL-AID man he's a big pitcher with a smile face and he busts through doors and stuff.......bringing all things jacked up sugar your way.......stay tough now, Kev.
KOOL-AID is the ultimate..........it's a ton of sugar in this packet and some awful dyes, and ya add water...........and ya drink it........especially healthy when people put it in a baby's bottle.........growing up I knew people that did that.........not good.
Salt too they mentioned so maybe?
If you ever get KOOL_AID over in your neck of the woods........maybe ya even have it ya say it like this.........."What flavor?" someone asks and you say "RED".........nobody calls it cherry........plus KOOL-AID man he's a big pitcher with a smile face and he busts through doors and stuff.......bringing all things jacked up sugar your way.......stay tough now, Kev.
