On The Juice And Struggleing N Need Some Advice

hi guys..just to say that this site is amazing and you guys are cool...im realy looking for some advice on how the heck i can get off this methadone stuff..im now very pleased to say that i am 10 months and 10 days clean from heroin and all class a drugs..iv reduced my self down from 50mls to 21mls and every time i even try and reduce 1/2 a ml it knocks the hell out of me...iv been ok reducing up to now and found it managable and expected all that came my way...but since getting down to about 25mls if i even reduce down a ml that it knocks me sideways...its not the pysical side more the head thing that hurt the most.. i desperatly need to maintain my levle of success and even got complaicent that i was over the worst.............wat a fool i am to think that it is that easy and now realise iv got a very long way still to go but am losing faith in beleaving that i can reduce off the meth....i have a pretty good life and can say that i am proper happy for the first time in years...i work hard, have lovley partener that loves me to bits and gives me more love and support i cud ever deserve...the problem i have is that i want so badley to get opiate free but i have to be able to maintain my life as i now no it. this is wat gives me the strenth to stay off the gear...can i do this and give up or does anybody think im living in coookoo land?.i had the best support in my mum as she was clean from drink for over five years...she knew how to make me feel better wen i struggled with the gear and also said it like it was and i cudnt lie to her...this was the best approch and worked well for me.......im soo soo soo sad to say that mum died 10 months and ten days ago and man i miss her so much...mum was my rock and the biggest person in my life,,,mum was my best friend and now i have a huge hole i cant fill.. iv got some lovly people around me but none that are ex users and i dont see or speak to any if possible as scared at where it may end...the problem with this is i feel soo alone some times and am serching for a friend that knows the score...man i must be in recovery as am asking for help and support from where ever i can get it............i love life now and realy dont wanna go back to that life but am aware it cud happen if i let it....this is the hardest thing iv ever done an d im determind that il make my mum proud and make good my wrongs.....i cant do NA as they are very clicky in my home town but i do need the support...if anybody ever fancies a natter then i wud be so greatful.. my email address is worldofdan@hotmail.co.uk...sending all the love to you all and i pray that u are all well and fighting this evil battle...love and respect to you all.dan.....xxxx
CONGRATS on the clean time. I do understand where your coming from. I have been clean 18 months i spent the 1st 7 to 8 on methadone. I got up to a much higher dose then you. I went down 10mg a week I stopped going to the clinic at 30mg it took a solid 2 months to sleep right i was totally screwed up. It was A ton harder to kick the methadone withdraws then H withdraws. I was close to using again just to feel better "i did not" I fought it out it SUCKED A LOT. I would never advise anyone to go down that fast in a perfect world i would have liked to went down the proper way. Everyone is diffrent don't force yourself to get sick to get off the methadone. Your doing so good but, your right it's not over you'll have to always fight the urge to use again. I did not crave H to much on methadone when i went off the cravings and stupid dreams came back.
You are doing SO well, and I bet your mum is looking down on you with pride! I wish my son could see what his heroin addiction is doing to me..not just financially, as it has been..but feel now that my own health is suffering. He knows and feels that if anything happens to me..EVERYONE in the family will point the finger in his direction! Is this his Self Fulfilling prophecy?
Hi dandi,
First of all, well done for being 10 months 10 days clean( whos counting lol) that is brilliant and you should be so proud of yourself. I used heroin for 6 years and was on methodone 40 mls up and down for 2 years. I hated methodone but as you know it affects every bone in your body so i could not come off it with nothing. That was last november i last used methodone as the way i saw it was i had 2 habits heroin and methodone, meth never ever worked for me I would skip it and take heroin never the other way round though. I weaned myself from 40 to 0 but i was still using heroin so it was not that difficult to stop taking it. I used heroin up until 17 days ago where ive done a 16 day detox on subutex and that has worked for me so far so good. It really depends down to the individual dont you think? Obviously meth works for you as you have done 10 months which is excellent and also managed to get down to 21 ml and im so sorry to read about your mum, god that took my breath away how strong a person you are that you did not give in. My mum is everything to me she is so supportive and a good friend i just dont know what i would do if anything happened to her. Ive read especially on this site a lot of people saying when your down to 25 and less its the hardest part and they are really struggling too. Would you not think about trying subutex to come off the methodone or maybe talking to your doctor and seeing what is out there to help you?
Stay strong dandi.......Your not alone.........This site is great you know every time you come on someone will listen to you and respond back which means a lot especially when you think your alone and no one will listen ....there is so many genuine people in this site.......Thanks Guys

Yvonne
thanks guys for your lovley words and support..this site is fantastic and has helped me so much to read that im not alone...please take care xx
dandi,
You've come a good way as a lot of people will tell you you have to come down slow let your body adjust it's been through a lot it needs to get used to things.

My man is on methadone and some of my work is with drug users but more on the emotional side than the medical side but look back over the site way back try typing in tapering on the search at the bottom and you'll get threads about how people have cut down and how fast.

You need tools to get you through this and I mean you have to have someone to talk to can you talk to your partner? Is there anyone you know who is also trying to come off the gear? If not keep posting. I understand the fear methadone does allow you to live a sort of normal life but...

You say you're in a clicky home town does that mean you're afraid people will talk - how do you get your methadone do you have to go and take it in the chemist?
Are you chipping in between or sticking to the juice?
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