Is it true that once an addict always an addict. I mean i been thinking and realisin how stupid I was when I was with Kevin and have realised that pretty much from day one he had been using, just before he moved in he went cold turkey then not long after he was giving me some cotton bull story that he had to go up to court, which for some reason I am doubting and dont think he actually did, I think it was an excuse to use. Anyway I was thinking although you get clean from these drugs do you always mentally crave it? I mean Kevin first ised almost 10 years ago...he had me and Kiala yet he was obviously still mentally addicted.
Does this drug completely rule your life, even when your no longer using it?? Is there people who have been addicted, get clean....can they completely stay clean???
Sorry just beena long day and kind of got my mind tickin over...and thought hey lets see wot you guys say.
Thank you all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Alrite Lynds....firstly folks can and will stay clean for the rest of thier lives.Im nearing 2ys.tottaly clean after a few slips........so to me i think im in early recovery coz i still think about it and times in the past when i used....so yes although clean i still look at myself as an addict....talk to me in five yrs and il tell you if i think im an addict.......but i do think if you have used for quite a time then got clean ya gotta watch yerself.....but it also depends on ones enviroment.....i.e are they doin recovery on thier own or are they in N.A or seeing a councillor.....or on l/t methadone deal like me......everyones different.
Take care of yerself and Kiala.............Davey
Take care of yerself and Kiala.............Davey
Hi Bunnyrocker,
Ya know...ya...I think its true...just my opinion for sure...but...ya...I think were born like this...we have a propensity for addiction...it doesnt mean we cant be well or recover from it...but...its probably the truth to say that yes...we are addicts for life and we have to be very careful about it...kind of like high blood pressure or any kind of disease...you take the right corrective action and you can live with it..live well even....you can be an addict but you dont have to use...the craving...well...if the corrective actions are in place then the addiction is in check and the craving they tell me lessens...ive only been clean for 2 months and a few days now...but with support and a program and the right stuff...we can and do stay clean...addiction is a really tough problem and when its active it can be really horrible...so, ya...in my humble opinion...an addict is an addict for life just like a person who is born with a disability that needs medication or whatever to straighten it out...if we keep to our programs and take our meds (smile)...then were fine...:)
Con
Ya know...ya...I think its true...just my opinion for sure...but...ya...I think were born like this...we have a propensity for addiction...it doesnt mean we cant be well or recover from it...but...its probably the truth to say that yes...we are addicts for life and we have to be very careful about it...kind of like high blood pressure or any kind of disease...you take the right corrective action and you can live with it..live well even....you can be an addict but you dont have to use...the craving...well...if the corrective actions are in place then the addiction is in check and the craving they tell me lessens...ive only been clean for 2 months and a few days now...but with support and a program and the right stuff...we can and do stay clean...addiction is a really tough problem and when its active it can be really horrible...so, ya...in my humble opinion...an addict is an addict for life just like a person who is born with a disability that needs medication or whatever to straighten it out...if we keep to our programs and take our meds (smile)...then were fine...:)
Con
Good to see ya Con......hows the methadone programme going?how much are you on now?......and how are yer meetings going......lotsa questions......just wanted to see how you were in yer early recovery.Have a good weekend...........Davey.
P.S im bringing Sian and her mate Ellen to see Kung Fu Panda later today il be giving a review later inm sure you will be interested...lol............take care Mrs...............Davey
P.S im bringing Sian and her mate Ellen to see Kung Fu Panda later today il be giving a review later inm sure you will be interested...lol............take care Mrs...............Davey
Hi Davey !! :)
Now how did you know that I would LOVE kung Foo Panda LOL !!! Welll...to answer some of your questions....and BTW...thanks for asking ..Im glad I can talk to someone about this..well, .Ive settled in for the last few weeks but.its not enough and I can feel it...expecially on weekends...and im going to raise it a bit tommorow at the clinic...during the week its still tough because of the drive...but im really irritable latley it seems...dont know...not sure if its dose or just everything being kind of hectic...sweatin is pretty horrible too latley....and I have lost , jeez, i would have to say 20 or so pounds...im eating...but ...its not sticking ha ha !!....im going to the meetings, about 3 a week, there helping a bit...i like them but i still havent asked for a sponsor yet...dont know Davey...been actually cravin a bit...maybe more than a bit...dose is still too low but i cant make my body absorb it any faster so i can drive on it...one day at a time I guess...thanks for asking Davey...felt good to get all that out :) and I'll be waiting for that review !!!
Now how did you know that I would LOVE kung Foo Panda LOL !!! Welll...to answer some of your questions....and BTW...thanks for asking ..Im glad I can talk to someone about this..well, .Ive settled in for the last few weeks but.its not enough and I can feel it...expecially on weekends...and im going to raise it a bit tommorow at the clinic...during the week its still tough because of the drive...but im really irritable latley it seems...dont know...not sure if its dose or just everything being kind of hectic...sweatin is pretty horrible too latley....and I have lost , jeez, i would have to say 20 or so pounds...im eating...but ...its not sticking ha ha !!....im going to the meetings, about 3 a week, there helping a bit...i like them but i still havent asked for a sponsor yet...dont know Davey...been actually cravin a bit...maybe more than a bit...dose is still too low but i cant make my body absorb it any faster so i can drive on it...one day at a time I guess...thanks for asking Davey...felt good to get all that out :) and I'll be waiting for that review !!!
Wll...Con Kung Fu Panda was interesting its message of course was that we can all achieve our goals with enuff input......positive stuff.....the overweight panda called Fu flys in face of adversity and gains friendship and loyalty from his pool of other animal ninja types........lotsa good fight scenes i goofed off bout halfway thru but got a straw up the nose for the indescretion......so i saw most of it ...the kids loved and were doin kung fu kicks in the air all the way home.As for yer dose you sound like ya need it up a bit ya didnt mention how much yer on....but i think get to 50ml.and see how you feel its just enuff and not too much at the same time.Hope all is well with yer missus....is she still jobless...tough stuff are you going thru a recession econimically....we are lotsa job losses and a dooming feeling....folks with big mortgages on houses that are worth less than when they bought em.....negative eqiuty...thats the cold termAnyway enuff of my John Maynard act.Con take it eze yer at the early stage so give that ticking mind of yers a rest a bit lol.All the best ..........Davey
Hey Lynds... yeah i'm an addict, i think i'll always be an( right now im watching chemical bros on t in the park and thinking " how good would a few e's be to this song.........." it is always there) addict but as long as i do certain things each day hopefully slowly i'll get better cause i dont want to go back to the hell of using as it is too much....I do think about drugs often, but i don't use them and that is the main thing, eh? It is a day at a time for me. Good to see you on here. You and the wee lass take carel, Kev
Awwww, BR,
You're going through it huh, honey?
Sorry you're mind is in overdrive. You take care of that baby girl. I know you do and so well.
If my opinion counts any. I'm with Kev. I'm of the mind lately everything would go better with dope. Yeah, I'm clean and think 4 years is heck good, but in an instant 4 years can become 0. Zero. Nill. No days clean. So, I guess the answer is yeah. Just yeah. I'm sorry you're mulling and worrying and playing it all out, BR.
You're going through it huh, honey?
Sorry you're mind is in overdrive. You take care of that baby girl. I know you do and so well.
If my opinion counts any. I'm with Kev. I'm of the mind lately everything would go better with dope. Yeah, I'm clean and think 4 years is heck good, but in an instant 4 years can become 0. Zero. Nill. No days clean. So, I guess the answer is yeah. Just yeah. I'm sorry you're mulling and worrying and playing it all out, BR.
BBBBRRRRYYYYNNNNN!! Good to hear from you how are you?
Aww thanks everyone, I was thinkin so myself. I have asked allot of questions to myself later. Not punishing myself but wondering if I really did know Kevin, I mean REALLY??
I think also when you live with someone who is an addict, thier addiction becomes your addiction, you become so obsessed with helping them to get clean that you dont see other things happenin around you and you tend to exclude people from your life.
Anyway glad to hear from you all, I will keep popping in, although addiction isnt a part of my life anymore....I made friends...and its good to still talk to ya all....mwah xxxx
I think also when you live with someone who is an addict, thier addiction becomes your addiction, you become so obsessed with helping them to get clean that you dont see other things happenin around you and you tend to exclude people from your life.
Anyway glad to hear from you all, I will keep popping in, although addiction isnt a part of my life anymore....I made friends...and its good to still talk to ya all....mwah xxxx
I do think.... at least in my case, it's always a addict. I've been off any hard drug "hard being/h/coke/crack/" 3 years now. However In that 3 years i've had my share of other softer drugs pot, xanax, valuim, adipex. I was only totally drug free the last 7 months of pregnancy with Robbie. 1st 6-8 weeks of pregnancy was on methadone. I don't acually see me EVER being totally clean. I have managed to not use needle drugs. The craving gets real bad, real often even now YEARS after my last shot. I may get bashed for this: I don't know ANY addict that has managed LONG TERM without a slip up. Yes I know they are out there but, by far they are the exception rather then the norm. My mom and Dad are both addicts. My mom has not had a drink in some 11 years but, she will take ANY pain pill. She thinks she has no problem. My dad has been to rehad no kidding least 15 times.
Anyhow my thoughts are it is never CURED but, yes one can chose to manage the illness but, Statistics say the biggest % will use again.
As for your other questions "asking yourself how well you knew Kevin really?" I don't think anyone knows anyone fully. Not sure we are ment to totally know another. I know the children i brought into the world I don't and won't fully know. Emotions change, people change, situations change. How well can one acually know another?. I hope this soul searching you are doing gets you some helpful answers. I know i don't have the answers just sharing my thoughts. You went thru and are going thru a very horrible experience. I hope you remember to be kind to your self and take time to maybe NOT THINK so much. You have my respect I admire your strength and courage. I am very glad you chose to share with us..
Anyhow my thoughts are it is never CURED but, yes one can chose to manage the illness but, Statistics say the biggest % will use again.
As for your other questions "asking yourself how well you knew Kevin really?" I don't think anyone knows anyone fully. Not sure we are ment to totally know another. I know the children i brought into the world I don't and won't fully know. Emotions change, people change, situations change. How well can one acually know another?. I hope this soul searching you are doing gets you some helpful answers. I know i don't have the answers just sharing my thoughts. You went thru and are going thru a very horrible experience. I hope you remember to be kind to your self and take time to maybe NOT THINK so much. You have my respect I admire your strength and courage. I am very glad you chose to share with us..
You know something Kev, I was thinking exactly the same mate when I watched that. I think it's always going to be like that.
Linz x
Linz x
Once an addict -always an addict
You might not always be in an active addiction- but your always an addict
You might be in some kind of recovery program - but always an addict
Once an addict thinks he,s not- - he,s in for a world of trouble
You might not always be in an active addiction- but your always an addict
You might be in some kind of recovery program - but always an addict
Once an addict thinks he,s not- - he,s in for a world of trouble
Jack said it all in a lot less words then I used.
