Oxy & Methadone

have a friend in Meth treatment for Oxy--

I do not really know anything about the treatment and would appreciate someone telling me how long it goes on? How does he get off of the Meth?
I did know someone that was on Meth for years-- I suspect that she didn't want to get off of it, but ... .

He said that he would just go to bed for a few days and get off of it. I feel that the doses would be reduced gradually ... But even then, how long are you in treatment before you "get off" the Meth. I just do not know and can not respond with any intelligence. I just do not know what to say.

I am supporting his decision, and am glad that he made the decision. Also in the past 2 months since he started treatment I have been paying for it. He will shortly have funds, but I am there for him 'till he gets them as this is one of the most important things he will ever do with his life. It has put me in a bind, I will eventually recover, but it will be worth it for him to get his life back.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance!
i know of two ppl in my town (in canada)who went the meth route. one did as he set out to do,use the meth to get off oxys the other really doesnt hve the desire to quit and is still on the meth with the dosage climbing.it is,as i see it,a way of supervised tapering but here, you can use it as an easy source.i'm currently looking into startng it.it seems to be a decent method for those like me who dont have pain but got n over our heads.the success stories i know of locally outweigh the failures.although it is up to the user.hope this helps a little
forgot.my plan is to set and abide by aschedule of tapered doses.they have a loose theory that the treatment should not last longer than the opiate use.they,ve told me over the phone its been fm 2 months to as long as 20 yrs!!!!!!doesnt narrow it down, does it!?any way the info is available on the net
woundering about methadone, please read my person story , under , helping my sister, hopefully that helps, god bless and take care. hi kenny.
I have heard that methadone wafers help heroin and oxy abusers come off the drug. It too can e abused, as I had a friend who was telling me that he would tell the clinic he was using a higher dosage of oxys than he really was, because their is no way to confirm how much a user was taking before help, and that they upped his dosage and he was able to get f***ed up off it. When you do that, it delays recovery because it is like trading one addiction to another, just switching substances. They can't get the same high as snorting though, but it can be a way of abusing another substance if not used correctly
Oh Oxycontin & Methadone,
I too, used both of those drugs under Dr.'s supervision. I took Oxycontin, built a tolerance it stopped working after over a year, Dr. switched me to methadone. I thought it was the best drug I ever had, took care of pain and more (I believe), never slept so good in my life. I did taper my methadone dose is half, before another Dr. took the methadone away and put me back on Oxycontin (I was good, stayed with what I had tapered down too). Methadone is very contrivoursely? being used to control pain. But Dr.'s are realizing you do get a high off Methadone if abused. Not only that it attaches to your bodies fat and muscle, therefore making it a very longggggg withdrawal process. My problem, I could only get so low on the Methadone, or Oxycontin before it didn't work. Had to go Cold Turkey off of those. That's why I believe people stay on methadone for years. It's really just another narcotic, infact a heavy one.

I admire you for what your doing for your friend, but make sure their is progress, my Dr. lowered my dose by 20 mg every week, or another pain Dr. said to take one away every 3 days. I believe an average stay in Rehab/Detox is 28 days, I would monitor after that, if I were helping with the expenses. Take care, and Best Wishes.



Kenny,

I would really think about it before getting on methadone. If your getting close and you really want to stay clean, what about Sub, are you in Canada? That sounds not as bad. Although alot of people on that for a long period of time. But hey if it helps them not use and beat the cravings, I would think that's their best bet until they decide better. Have a great day, good to see you this morning. Best Wishes
the biggest single advantage of the methadone is that you can get it.It gives your life back as you dont spend your days hunting for pills.I only planned on using it as a backup plan if the tapering didnt work.It has so far so i'm not going to the meth.but as i and others have mentioned you need the desire to quit.setting up a schedule is the best way to go.i have access to opiates whenever so that isn't the problem.i've cut another 10mg out of my diet 2day and i suspect further reductions will get very difficult.I dont know what will happen when i go lower.thats when i'll consider my options for the rest of my recovery,so far i've played by my rules 99% of the time
kenny
Just a thought Kenny, you've come this far...slow down. Maybe you are tapering too fast. Stay at a comfortable dose for a couple of more days, then go down. If you go too fast, you'll defeat your purpose and go back up again. Especially with the depression you're feeling. Be gentle.
Kenny,
You are doing great, maybe Cowgirl is right, when I tapered of Oxy,or Methadone, didn't have any problems until I got low.. for me anything under 6 20mg tablets, or 6 10mg Methadone, was very hard. If you have it your going to take it. So here comes the mental part of it. It sounds like your tapering great, when you hit a low, stay there, and get a plan! That's why I went off, body could not adjust to such a low dosage from 400mg to 100mg, sorry couldn't do it. We are all here to support you, I can't believe how well your doing!!!!!
Have a great night........ the sun is shining........ it's a friday............ going to go for a walk, love hubby to give me piggy back ride.......... wrestle with the kids........... You too, have a great night, whatever tiggles your fancy!!!! Good to hear from you (p.s. wish I could hear you play right now, that would make my night) I have been asking hubby to take me to hear a band... Best Wishes
Just a helpful website re: Oxycontin
It's www.oxyabusekills. , it helped me, their is also a Dr. that I asked a question to and he answered it. Just more information if you need it.
Take care. Best Wishes
Hi, I have been in a meth PG for 8 yrs. the first three years I speed ball. I was using cocaine with the meth and any pills I could get my hands on. The meth will help to kick oxyand other narcotics but you still have to address the real issues. Using on meth made me realize that I could not contunue to live like that. I stop using because I became so physically and emotionally ill. I did not want to live. I went into therapy with a CSW for 4 years. It takes time to find a compatible counselor. I was going twice a week to groups and counseling. I learn my issue was my thinking the way I looked at myself , at life and the fact I truly did not know that I have a choice. In time I started to look at myself and life differently. As I got better, I started to come down on my dose.10 mg. every month until 30mg.,then 5 mg.every month. I remember taking a pin head size of pill powder. Then one day I did not need it.
The only way to make it through withdrawls is to restablize on the meth. When you're ready you can come down on the meth. Give time time.
Every addicts wants to stop using. I have never met anyone who said I want to live addicted for the rest of my life.
FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO COMMEND YOUR FRIEND FOR GETTING OFF THE OXYS THAT'S WHAT I WAS ON AND I GOT ON THE METHADONE PROGRAM BACK IN SEPTEMBER.YOU CAN STAY ON METHADONE AS LONG AS YOU CHOOSE TO BUT THERE'S NO POINT OF GETTING ON IT AND THEN ONE DAY SAYING I FEEL FINE AND STOPPING YOU'LL FEEL FINE FOR 2 DAYS AFTER THAT BECAUSE METHADONE STAYS IN YOUR SYSTEM FOR 2 DAYS BUT THE THIRD DAY YOUR GOING TO BE WITHDRAWLING FROM THE METHADONE SO IF HE'S GOING TO BE ON IT TELL HIM TO USE THE PROGRAM THE RIGHT WAY.WHEN HE FEELS HE'S READY TO COME OFF HE NEEDS TO SPEAK WITH HIS COUNSLEOR AND THEN THEY TELL YOU SHOULD ONLY COME DOWN ON YOUR DOSE 2 MG EVERY WEEK I THINK IT IS OR EVERYOTHER WEEK BUT HE SHOULDN'T JUST STOP ONE DAY BECAUSE I DID THAT THE LAST TIME I WAS ON THE PROGRAM AND I WENT BACK TO THE OXYS BECAUSE I WAS WITHDRAWLING.AND METHADONE ISN'T SOMETHING TO PLAY AROUND WITH I HAD A FRIEND THAT DIED DUE TO OVERDOSED ON IT.BUT I HOPE I HELPED A LITTLE BIT IF YOU NEED ANYTHING GET BACK TO ME.-JACKIE-