Pam,
How does clonidine help one stop smoking or with withdrawals if its a blood
pressure med????( other than keep your blood pressure from getting too high
during withdrawals....)
Anyone else that knows about this please feel free.
Hugs to all,
Ali
ALI, I AM NOT SUR HOW IT HELPS BUT WILL ASK MY DR. TOMORROW. THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT MY FAMILY DOC(NOT PAIN DOC} TRIED TO HELP ME A COUPLE MONTS AGO WITH THE USE OF CLONODINE AND VALIUM, IT WAS A 5 DAY TREATMENT AND I COULDNT GET THRU IT BECAUSE THE MIXTURE OF THE 2 MADE ME SLEEP COSTANTLY AND THE CLONODINE MADE ME EXTREMLY DIZZY. I FAINTED 2 TIMES AND IT DIDNT REALLY HELP EASE WDS. THATS JUST MY OPINION. AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER WHEN YOUR BODY IS GOING THRU WDS. IT DOES RAISES BLOOD PRESSURE WHICH ACCOUNT FOR ALOT OF THE WD. ILL ASK TOMORROW AND LET YOU KNOW FOR SURE. SORRY COULDNT HELP MORE GINA
Clonidine is a Benzo. You can withdraw from that in deadly ways. Benzoes and alcohol are the withdraw killers. You can withdraw from narcs and still live. I would steer way clear of benzoes coming off an addiction of pain pills.
Ben
Ben
clonidine is NOT a benzodiazepine!
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic809.htm
it has been very beneficial to me personally during opiate w/d -- in either tablet form or transdermal catapres patches. i would recommend it to anyone contemplating withdrawal from an opiate/opioid.
it requires a prescription from a doctor.
*sdr*
amending man, you are thinking Klonopin.
When withdrawing your blood pressure rises a lot! Valium also helps reduce it.
Linz
Linz
Clonidine works like this.....
"Clonidine, an 2-adrenergic agonist, produces cellular effects similar to opioid receptor activation, and was later shown to dampen many of the physical signs and symptoms of opiate withdrawal in humans6, 7. "
The full article is here.
From neurobiology to treatment: progress against addiction
http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaP...l/nn945.html#B1
"Clonidine, an 2-adrenergic agonist, produces cellular effects similar to opioid receptor activation, and was later shown to dampen many of the physical signs and symptoms of opiate withdrawal in humans6, 7. "
The full article is here.
From neurobiology to treatment: progress against addiction
http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaP...l/nn945.html#B1
Ali, you got the answers to your question before I could respond...and Clonidine is not a benzo, just like some of the others have told you. Have a good day..
Yes Klonipin...Thats the 'bad' one! sorry!
thanks for your answers....have been keeping an eye on my blood pressure but it is normally around 70/65....soooo low nurses often think theyve made a mistake or Im dead...lol...its now about 85/75......so thats high for ME...
What about the quit smoking thing....thought i read that it helps with that too!
Ben, looks like you made an error AGAIN..lololol
Names of meds confuse me too....luv ya man.
Hugs,
Ali
What about the quit smoking thing....thought i read that it helps with that too!
Ben, looks like you made an error AGAIN..lololol
Names of meds confuse me too....luv ya man.
Hugs,
Ali
Ali, your blood pressure has probably always been so low because you have been on opiates. Yes, clonidine is used to help people stop smoking. Also, during withdrawal your blood pressure generally rises and the clonidine will lower it and make you sleepy. I've seen people use it during w/d and they slept through most of the bad part of w/d... Anyhow, if you use this drug, please do so under the close supervision of your doctor and have your pressure checked before you ever take a dose. If your top number is under 90 you should not take clonidine and if it drops below 90 after a dose you should cease taking it as well.
How does one get access to Valium? Can my family physician prescribe it and what ailment do I need to have to get it?
~Flowers~
~Flowers~
Flowers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STAY AWAY FROM VALIUM honey...if you think stopping T3 is bad....valium if one of the worst withdrawals around and it is very addicitng...
Im not even going to answer the question what symptom do you need to have to take it...........stay away from it.
Try GABA..its an amino acid and you will feel the effect within 10-20 mins of taking. its an amino you normally have in your body anyway...
Flowers................you scared me withthat question luv,
Hugs,
Ali
STAY AWAY FROM VALIUM honey...if you think stopping T3 is bad....valium if one of the worst withdrawals around and it is very addicitng...
Im not even going to answer the question what symptom do you need to have to take it...........stay away from it.
Try GABA..its an amino acid and you will feel the effect within 10-20 mins of taking. its an amino you normally have in your body anyway...
Flowers................you scared me withthat question luv,
Hugs,
Ali
Yeah Flowers, you don't even want to go there with Valium......Please don't even think about that one...
I MEAN, NOBODY NEEDS TO BE TELLING YOU HOW TO SCORE VALIUM...
If you think that you have a problem with opiates, well honey, you know nothing until you get addicted to valium...
I MEAN, NOBODY NEEDS TO BE TELLING YOU HOW TO SCORE VALIUM...
If you think that you have a problem with opiates, well honey, you know nothing until you get addicted to valium...
Pam,
Do you feel thatyour anger is subsiding?!!!!!!!!!!!?????????
I just got back ( missed the whole fight that got locked down..lol)
and actually did some much overdue errands....I went to the drycleaners, and i had to get hubbys tux shirt cleaned for tomorrow. cant do it by then. Im mad. I bite my tongue. So i say, okay...i have an outfit to pick up i dropped off last week..........He looks............takes for bloody ever...then he comes back and says they dont have it.............he smirked..........i swear he did........I actually stood there and stared at his ugly mug, and thought about reaching over and b**** slapping him...........this is not an out fit i can replace...so i SHOULD be angry but.........( Its a Comme de Garcons jacket that has 3 sleeves...one just hangs there with no arm in it.......lolol...you know its a designer thing..)
But I would never have reacted like this before....would never have had such anger.............im actually scared of how angry i am....also i am procrastinating worse than ever ( im a libra and we do weigh things) but im unable to complete ANYTHING i start...been like this for at least 4 months...before i started tapering....have i damaged some Brain cells you think?? ( SERIOUSLY PAM)
would appreciate your opinion.....Wiverson???
Hugs,
Ali
Do you feel thatyour anger is subsiding?!!!!!!!!!!!?????????
I just got back ( missed the whole fight that got locked down..lol)
and actually did some much overdue errands....I went to the drycleaners, and i had to get hubbys tux shirt cleaned for tomorrow. cant do it by then. Im mad. I bite my tongue. So i say, okay...i have an outfit to pick up i dropped off last week..........He looks............takes for bloody ever...then he comes back and says they dont have it.............he smirked..........i swear he did........I actually stood there and stared at his ugly mug, and thought about reaching over and b**** slapping him...........this is not an out fit i can replace...so i SHOULD be angry but.........( Its a Comme de Garcons jacket that has 3 sleeves...one just hangs there with no arm in it.......lolol...you know its a designer thing..)
But I would never have reacted like this before....would never have had such anger.............im actually scared of how angry i am....also i am procrastinating worse than ever ( im a libra and we do weigh things) but im unable to complete ANYTHING i start...been like this for at least 4 months...before i started tapering....have i damaged some Brain cells you think?? ( SERIOUSLY PAM)
would appreciate your opinion.....Wiverson???
Hugs,
Ali
hmmmm does your hubby have 3 arms? not that there's anything wrong with that...
you have me really perplexed right now...guess that's what happens when a country girl tries to thunk...
you have me really perplexed right now...guess that's what happens when a country girl tries to thunk...
Im going to bump PAWS for ya ali....
It is typical to let r out...I seriously can't do what I was doing as far as business because of that. My tollerence has hit ZERO. It changes your whole life and thinking. (quitting) You won't stay like this forever hun...your still pretty raw. The anger will subside (not totally) but Im sure you arent feeling well either.
(Yah, what is w/ the three arms? lol)
It is typical to let r out...I seriously can't do what I was doing as far as business because of that. My tollerence has hit ZERO. It changes your whole life and thinking. (quitting) You won't stay like this forever hun...your still pretty raw. The anger will subside (not totally) but Im sure you arent feeling well either.
(Yah, what is w/ the three arms? lol)
You know what? If i didnt have husband (and puppy) that depend on me, I really would check myself in somewhere...some detox...do they have spa-detox? where you can have massage and meetings and mud masks????just a thought.
It would be such a relief to hand over the reigns for awhile...im surrounded by all the unfinished projects.......un opened envelopes....im over whelmed...
My husband really would need someone here.....he can cook but cant clean...and though ive tried a hundred times, he doesnt know the name of his meds or how much he takes and when ( blood thinners and metoprolo for skipping heart beat) He also cant use the channel changers...well we do have like 6 of them...but..lolol you know what i mean.......He is a bit spoiled and thats my fault, lay his clothes out for him, put his paste on his brush, cater to him hand and foot....oh yeah and take his b/p daily....he wouldnt do thatby himself..i know it. Please dont say mean things about him..hes great- the love of my life.... andif i said i wanted to go to rehab he would tell me I should go anywhere, anytime...i just know he wouldnt take proper care of himself...........Im not over valuing my role as wife....ive just taken care of things for sooo long, and have spoiled him...I dont think he even KNOWS where his sock drawer is....
It would be a luxury to let someone take over this taper too...
Just being honest...........and venting....
Hugs,
Ali
It would be such a relief to hand over the reigns for awhile...im surrounded by all the unfinished projects.......un opened envelopes....im over whelmed...
My husband really would need someone here.....he can cook but cant clean...and though ive tried a hundred times, he doesnt know the name of his meds or how much he takes and when ( blood thinners and metoprolo for skipping heart beat) He also cant use the channel changers...well we do have like 6 of them...but..lolol you know what i mean.......He is a bit spoiled and thats my fault, lay his clothes out for him, put his paste on his brush, cater to him hand and foot....oh yeah and take his b/p daily....he wouldnt do thatby himself..i know it. Please dont say mean things about him..hes great- the love of my life.... andif i said i wanted to go to rehab he would tell me I should go anywhere, anytime...i just know he wouldnt take proper care of himself...........Im not over valuing my role as wife....ive just taken care of things for sooo long, and have spoiled him...I dont think he even KNOWS where his sock drawer is....
It would be a luxury to let someone take over this taper too...
Just being honest...........and venting....
Hugs,
Ali
Calm down, I wasnt thinking about trying to score any valium, I just wanted to know what is it for? I know it has something to do with anxiety and calming the nerves or something. Please, I dont want anything to do with any form of pills whatsoever after this unless it's some vitamins or something. I swear, I feel like crap right now! And I also noticed some people chew pills instead of swallowing them. What's the difference?
Ali, sorry, didnt mean to scare you. Hugs....
~Flowers~
Ali, sorry, didnt mean to scare you. Hugs....
~Flowers~
Ali, You're allowed to do that sweetie. (vent that is) Your husband is a lucky guy.
I would go to rehab, but honestly I don't trust anyone else with my kid. When it comes to her I'm the only one I trust.
It's ok to be angry, it is a natural feeling, just don't dwell and get lost in it.
Love you girl
Stacey
I would go to rehab, but honestly I don't trust anyone else with my kid. When it comes to her I'm the only one I trust.
It's ok to be angry, it is a natural feeling, just don't dwell and get lost in it.
Love you girl
Stacey
