I have a question for those of you on sub.Its just over 7 months for me,i had every intention of taking it short term,but here i am,going into 8 months.I only take 3 mg a day.Morning ,noon,and night.Hoping...it'll make things easier when i come off it.
for the most part,im happy,glad to be off my DOC,got my head on a litte more striaght,and am going to counseling and womans groups,talking through things,sharing.But...
Here at home,im moody,deressed at times,and down right miserable at times.My husband said hes noticed this mostly the last 3-4 months.My memory is shot(even while using for those 3 years,honestly,my memory was still quite sharp)Im just wondering if others of you,whove been on sub over 6 months time are experiencing any of these things.I know its time to come off,and last month i said i was going to tell my dr i was ready,but chickened out.I see him the 16th this month and ive really made up my mind this time.
Anybody have any similarities?~KIM
PS~examples of memory loss,i am constantly misplacing my pocket book,thats just not me,i alway always,always know exactly where it is at all times(how much moneys in there,etc...)lately,i have to look all over the house,lose track how much cash i have.And my keys,forget it!!! I lost them last week and just found them yesterday.I really feel like im losing it,Life is pretty stressful and im very very busy so that may be part of it but...ive never felt so scatter brained before in my life?
Hi JJ'sgram, can I ask you, did the sub help you get off your drug of choice??? What were the side effects, if any, did you experience on the sub. My doc wants me to go on methadone to get off the vicodin, but I hear that the methadone is bad news, so i am going to bring up the sub with him. I am so desperate to get off these damn pills, and I am only on day 1 and the cravings are about driving me up the wall - my legs are going nuts, I am achy, my head hurts, I am irritable as hell, and I keep getting cold chills (the bathroom visits have not started yet, knock on wood). It is so hard when you know that one pill will take all of this away. I am thinking I need the sub.
ditto to what you just posted about sub, i have been on it since july 06 and i feel EXACTLY the same way you are.
1. i am afraid to start the taper process because i have allowed sub to be my last hope of feeling no desire to use, why is that because i am still getting an opiate daily duh!
2. i could have never done it without the help of sub and for that i will say that sub has been wonderful of breaking my habit of popping vicodins all day and i no longer have to lie to my doctors or worry how i will get more.
3. i have been so scatter brained and forgetful too, glad to know i am not alone.alot of my forgetfullness is anxiety too.
4. sub has me so chronically constipated, it has been so miserable in that dept. also i dont know if this is sub related but i have absolutely no appetite, foods i once loved taste nasty to me and i constantly have a bad taste in my mouth.
5. sub has made me EXTREMELY tired and i can pass out so easily when i WANT to be awake. for instance reading a book or being on the computer makes me so sleepy where before sub that never happened.
i do not regret taking it at all despite some of the side effects because i am so proud to say i haven't used any drugs of my choice since july!!
please tell me how do you do 3 mg of sub?? i have often wondered that because i want to drop slowly, i am on 8 mg, how do i drop to 7 mg? jewels
do you cut the pills? they only come in 2 mg and 8 mg?
1. i am afraid to start the taper process because i have allowed sub to be my last hope of feeling no desire to use, why is that because i am still getting an opiate daily duh!
2. i could have never done it without the help of sub and for that i will say that sub has been wonderful of breaking my habit of popping vicodins all day and i no longer have to lie to my doctors or worry how i will get more.
3. i have been so scatter brained and forgetful too, glad to know i am not alone.alot of my forgetfullness is anxiety too.
4. sub has me so chronically constipated, it has been so miserable in that dept. also i dont know if this is sub related but i have absolutely no appetite, foods i once loved taste nasty to me and i constantly have a bad taste in my mouth.
5. sub has made me EXTREMELY tired and i can pass out so easily when i WANT to be awake. for instance reading a book or being on the computer makes me so sleepy where before sub that never happened.
i do not regret taking it at all despite some of the side effects because i am so proud to say i haven't used any drugs of my choice since july!!
please tell me how do you do 3 mg of sub?? i have often wondered that because i want to drop slowly, i am on 8 mg, how do i drop to 7 mg? jewels
do you cut the pills? they only come in 2 mg and 8 mg?
Dawn~dont get me wrong,since i started the sub,ive had absolutely no desire whatsoever to take any norcos.For that,i will be forever thanful.I hear methadone is bad bad bad,i would definitley check into the sub,short term if you can possibly do that
Jewls~ As far as constipation,its always been a problem for me,worse with the norcos,and just as bad with the sub.Ive found pistachio nuts are really helping me alot(by accident,lol)
Food,i wish i had the same problem as you,i have the opposite and have had since i quit the norcos,sub hasnt hindered that at all,ive gained alot of weight which is depressing!.
Ive been taking 3 mgs basically since the beginning.Though the dr prescribed much more,i found a little went a long way with me.Im still getting the 8"s so its hard to be exact,but i break them and i figured(around about)3 mgs a day,very small pieces.And that is enough for me.But ive found,even at that low a dose,if i go one day with just 2 mgs(2 doses)im wiggin out by early evening.So its going to be tough no matter where we start from im afraid.
Again,im thankful for the sub,without it,i wouldnt be clean today,but im more than ready to get off,just not sure how to do it either?Maybe we can help each other?~KIM
Jewls~ As far as constipation,its always been a problem for me,worse with the norcos,and just as bad with the sub.Ive found pistachio nuts are really helping me alot(by accident,lol)
Food,i wish i had the same problem as you,i have the opposite and have had since i quit the norcos,sub hasnt hindered that at all,ive gained alot of weight which is depressing!.
Ive been taking 3 mgs basically since the beginning.Though the dr prescribed much more,i found a little went a long way with me.Im still getting the 8"s so its hard to be exact,but i break them and i figured(around about)3 mgs a day,very small pieces.And that is enough for me.But ive found,even at that low a dose,if i go one day with just 2 mgs(2 doses)im wiggin out by early evening.So its going to be tough no matter where we start from im afraid.
Again,im thankful for the sub,without it,i wouldnt be clean today,but im more than ready to get off,just not sure how to do it either?Maybe we can help each other?~KIM
Hi ladies...interesting topic. I too and now at the point where I believe the sub has done its job and now its time I picked up the slack and took this to the next level. I settled on 12mgs....I take 8mgs fist thing and then cut a 8 in half and took another 4mgs around 6ish.
The last few days I have been trying to cut back, so I skip the night dose. I was doing ok for a few days and then got real sick. Cold sick not dope sick...however I was feeling a little edgy I thought. How sick is that....scared of a little edginess. I just couldn't bear to be sick so I started taking he night dose again. I kept hearing my doctors voice in my ear...."you are not in charge...I am".
Excuse....maybe...I am still going to meetings and have found that it has made all the difference. I just want to be drug free now but I am torn between what my doctor says. I feel like the sub has been such a crutch...a helpful tool...but now I am worried too. I have four months today! Thats a miracle in itself, first time in over 5 years...no addictive behaviour and obsessing about those pills. I so believe that part is over...but now I must try to move on.
Perhaps we can all do this together! I am ready to taper again....I feel like I should be able to. I am not sure if its a mental thing or not. I do know that I have been so sick lately and when I get sick its easy for me to make excuses.
I rarely think about pills, in fact its safe to say because of treatment, AA and sub its a non issue. I don't want to rush and do things my way. I feel strong enough. I also see my Doc this Friday. I may mention this to him. I want off all meds now. Is this wrong? What are your thoughts?
I really don't have any real side effects...my husbutt says I am a different person. That is true...I am...I no longer abuse anything...except chocolate:)
The last few days I have been trying to cut back, so I skip the night dose. I was doing ok for a few days and then got real sick. Cold sick not dope sick...however I was feeling a little edgy I thought. How sick is that....scared of a little edginess. I just couldn't bear to be sick so I started taking he night dose again. I kept hearing my doctors voice in my ear...."you are not in charge...I am".
Excuse....maybe...I am still going to meetings and have found that it has made all the difference. I just want to be drug free now but I am torn between what my doctor says. I feel like the sub has been such a crutch...a helpful tool...but now I am worried too. I have four months today! Thats a miracle in itself, first time in over 5 years...no addictive behaviour and obsessing about those pills. I so believe that part is over...but now I must try to move on.
Perhaps we can all do this together! I am ready to taper again....I feel like I should be able to. I am not sure if its a mental thing or not. I do know that I have been so sick lately and when I get sick its easy for me to make excuses.
I rarely think about pills, in fact its safe to say because of treatment, AA and sub its a non issue. I don't want to rush and do things my way. I feel strong enough. I also see my Doc this Friday. I may mention this to him. I want off all meds now. Is this wrong? What are your thoughts?
I really don't have any real side effects...my husbutt says I am a different person. That is true...I am...I no longer abuse anything...except chocolate:)
Hey Kee, Kee, HUSBUTT, love it!!! LOL
KeeKee said:
No Keekee,i dont think youre wrong.I feel exactly the same way.Ive had enough of pills,even the ones that have been helping me.I feel its time to try this on my own.~KIM
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No Keekee,i dont think youre wrong.I feel exactly the same way.Ive had enough of pills,even the ones that have been helping me.I feel its time to try this on my own.~KIM
hey kim and kee kee!
i am glad to know i am not alone in this dilema, i understand why you guys want off, i thought when i first started sub wow! i hope i can take this forever because i will never need to use again... but 8 mos later side effects have occurred, so like you said kim i am chicken to ask my doctor about the taper and i wanted to feel him out on what he felt about me stopping sub, he said in july you will have one year sober, that is when we will talk about tapering. i cant believe i went a whole year on sub, in hindsight i wish i had stopped the sub maybe say after 2 weeks on it, but how was i to know that then?
i told my doctor my plan and i have given this great thought, i am on 8mg now, i want to drop to seven mg and be on that for say a month, then drop down mg by mg so slowly that my brain will not catch on???? i am scared, but i guess if it gets too bad i know i can always go back. i would love to keep in contact with you guys as we do the taper.peace and God bless Julie
i am glad to know i am not alone in this dilema, i understand why you guys want off, i thought when i first started sub wow! i hope i can take this forever because i will never need to use again... but 8 mos later side effects have occurred, so like you said kim i am chicken to ask my doctor about the taper and i wanted to feel him out on what he felt about me stopping sub, he said in july you will have one year sober, that is when we will talk about tapering. i cant believe i went a whole year on sub, in hindsight i wish i had stopped the sub maybe say after 2 weeks on it, but how was i to know that then?
i told my doctor my plan and i have given this great thought, i am on 8mg now, i want to drop to seven mg and be on that for say a month, then drop down mg by mg so slowly that my brain will not catch on???? i am scared, but i guess if it gets too bad i know i can always go back. i would love to keep in contact with you guys as we do the taper.peace and God bless Julie
Me too guys. 6 months and I'm scared I'm gonna be on sub forever.
Wendy
Wendy
Jewls,i agree,if it gets real bad,we can always go back on.But...(theres always a but)i expect theres going to be some discomfort,and im hoping i can handle it.Ive gone CT from the norcos before,and i just dont believe this will be as bad.Maybe im wrong,but ive got to do it,regardless.
Ive said it before and i'll say it a million times,im thankful for the sub,but im ready to be done with it.I dont want to be on it for life.The last time i asked my Dr about getting of he said"when and IF the time comes,we'll deal with it then. iF?????????IF??????????? i DONT THINK SO...I THINK THE dR WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU FOREVER BUT NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ME,I WIL GET OFF,IM SURE ITS NOT GOING TO BE EASY,BUT NOTHING WORTH HAVING EVER IS RIGHT?...sorry for the caps.
Anyway,im with you ladies,lets keep each other updated with dr appointments and scedules,tapers,whatever,it will help each other to see how the other is doing it.
Im not going to do it on my own,im going to come right out and tell my Dr,im ready...period.~KIM
Ive said it before and i'll say it a million times,im thankful for the sub,but im ready to be done with it.I dont want to be on it for life.The last time i asked my Dr about getting of he said"when and IF the time comes,we'll deal with it then. iF?????????IF??????????? i DONT THINK SO...I THINK THE dR WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU FOREVER BUT NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ME,I WIL GET OFF,IM SURE ITS NOT GOING TO BE EASY,BUT NOTHING WORTH HAVING EVER IS RIGHT?...sorry for the caps.
Anyway,im with you ladies,lets keep each other updated with dr appointments and scedules,tapers,whatever,it will help each other to see how the other is doing it.
Im not going to do it on my own,im going to come right out and tell my Dr,im ready...period.~KIM
I read through all of this and I can feel the terror that all of you have. Getting off of this powerful drug is not going to be a picnic. But all of you are strong women and I think when detirmined about something, nothing can stand in your way. Going to meetings and working a program is going to really help KeeKee and Kim, but what about the rest of you? KeeKee, you said something really profound, something that everyone should pay attention too...you're doctor's in charge, NOT you. Work with your drs, do as they suggest. There is no hurry or race in all of this. Be kind to yourselves....
Hiya Ladies...
I read this whole thread and wow, it is so awesome to watch an addict working with another addict...Powerful and thank you for sharing, each of you...
I know nothing about Sub but I want to commend you all for wanting to take your recoveries to the next level and wanted you to know that I'll be here for support and help in anyway possible....A suggestion might be to hook up with some of the ladies that have tapered off the sub and see if they'll share their experience, strength and hope...Give it to God and he will get you through it....
Kim, Jewels, KeeKee....way to go and thank you all for being such inspirations!
Take care,
Stacey
I read this whole thread and wow, it is so awesome to watch an addict working with another addict...Powerful and thank you for sharing, each of you...
I know nothing about Sub but I want to commend you all for wanting to take your recoveries to the next level and wanted you to know that I'll be here for support and help in anyway possible....A suggestion might be to hook up with some of the ladies that have tapered off the sub and see if they'll share their experience, strength and hope...Give it to God and he will get you through it....
Kim, Jewels, KeeKee....way to go and thank you all for being such inspirations!
Take care,
Stacey
I will discuss this with my Doctor on Friday. Although he is a very good addiction specialist and heavily involved in the program and has helped me when nothing or no one else could. I have to realize that he is still a doctor and he will perhaps continue to dispense the suboxone. He has never given the impression that his practise was strictly for profit. You can easily get that feeling from so many Doctors offices and rightly so on some level.
I have to be aware of this. His office is for profit, although a very caring and understanding man, its also his business. I get the feeling that he believes in long term maintenance.....I know that this problem has been so prevalent in my life for 5 long years but I am sick of it all.
I am grateful for recovery and will live and breath it perhaps for the rest of my days. I am just trying to figure out how I can become free of all meds and give back what I have been given. I know that I am impatient and am trying to learn a different way of life. On some level I am happy that this has happened to me because I am so much more in tune with me. On another level....I am just sick to death of it all.
Thanks for all the support, it means so much! We will get through this....I just cant imagine myself on sub much longer. I will taper and be done.....slowly perhaps...that is my biggest problem right now....I am perhaps moving too fast.
I have to be aware of this. His office is for profit, although a very caring and understanding man, its also his business. I get the feeling that he believes in long term maintenance.....I know that this problem has been so prevalent in my life for 5 long years but I am sick of it all.
I am grateful for recovery and will live and breath it perhaps for the rest of my days. I am just trying to figure out how I can become free of all meds and give back what I have been given. I know that I am impatient and am trying to learn a different way of life. On some level I am happy that this has happened to me because I am so much more in tune with me. On another level....I am just sick to death of it all.
Thanks for all the support, it means so much! We will get through this....I just cant imagine myself on sub much longer. I will taper and be done.....slowly perhaps...that is my biggest problem right now....I am perhaps moving too fast.
Keekee,it sounds like youre in a better situation than i.Your Dr is a specialist,mine on the other hand,is just a psychiatrist(sp) he does not speical in addiction(as far as i know)but he does work at the recovery center i attend.
I look at it this way....without me and others like me as patients,their center would go down the tubes.I truly believe they try and keep each patient attending the center for as long as possible(there are many parts to the center )and many many charges for each part(meaning $)
My first feeling of doom was when my Dr upped my sub half a pill a day(just becasue...in case you need it before bed)now,mind you,i hadnt said anything about needing more,in fact,i said the opposite,i thought i had taken too much,so....there you go.
Then the statement of when and IF the time comes to wean.Well,that totally turned me off.
He does have all my paper work from all the sessions i attend,so he knows of my progress,but i am in and out of his office(everytime)within 5 minutes. I always feel hes in a hurry,so i very seldom ask much or say much at all.
Next week,i intend to tell him exactly how i feel.Im sure he'll say im not ready.i will say,lets give it a go.
I just want to get on with the next chapter of my life and like i said,i am feeling some side effects,side effects which are holding me back from enjoying life to the fullest.Therefore,i feel i must get off the sub.I will follow his advice and take it slow,but i will do it.
Thanks ladies for all the support and kind words.This really is a great place,im so happy i found you all when i did.
Keekee,Jewls,Wendy,Dawn,i will keep you updated.There are a few others here who have gone through this,and are now sub free.I hope they will contribute too.Its probably going to be a bumpy ride?!?!~KIM
I look at it this way....without me and others like me as patients,their center would go down the tubes.I truly believe they try and keep each patient attending the center for as long as possible(there are many parts to the center )and many many charges for each part(meaning $)
My first feeling of doom was when my Dr upped my sub half a pill a day(just becasue...in case you need it before bed)now,mind you,i hadnt said anything about needing more,in fact,i said the opposite,i thought i had taken too much,so....there you go.
Then the statement of when and IF the time comes to wean.Well,that totally turned me off.
He does have all my paper work from all the sessions i attend,so he knows of my progress,but i am in and out of his office(everytime)within 5 minutes. I always feel hes in a hurry,so i very seldom ask much or say much at all.
Next week,i intend to tell him exactly how i feel.Im sure he'll say im not ready.i will say,lets give it a go.
I just want to get on with the next chapter of my life and like i said,i am feeling some side effects,side effects which are holding me back from enjoying life to the fullest.Therefore,i feel i must get off the sub.I will follow his advice and take it slow,but i will do it.
Thanks ladies for all the support and kind words.This really is a great place,im so happy i found you all when i did.
Keekee,Jewls,Wendy,Dawn,i will keep you updated.There are a few others here who have gone through this,and are now sub free.I hope they will contribute too.Its probably going to be a bumpy ride?!?!~KIM
You are in my prayers Kim!!! You are such an inspiration to me. I wish you nothing but the best.....keep on keepin on :0)
I am in the middle of making dinner right now .... wish I had more time, but I will come back to this thread later ....
Wanted to quickly say that I wish you all the best of luck!!! I recently came of Sub (as some may remember) and think that you are making a very good decision to taper and get off.
I also believe 110% that most of the Sub Dr's don't know nearly enough about this drug and would continue to keep most on it, rather than encouraging you to taper off. It is a good drug in some ways but can be a nightmare in many other ways that we will hearing more about in the future ....
Anyway, my dinner is probably burning ... LOL ...
I'll be back later ....
Final thought ... each of you have the strength to do this .... I know it and hope that you each know it too!!
Lots of love ...
:-)
Hey there, you ladies getting ready to do the next right thing.
You rock! I am in awe of you.
Keep us posted on how the tapers go. You're an inspiration to many.
Love,
Gina
You rock! I am in awe of you.
Keep us posted on how the tapers go. You're an inspiration to many.
Love,
Gina
Impreface this post as JMHO and SEE YOUR DOCTOR PLEASE
Come on Lisa terror? LOL Terror for me and you i think was going C/T thats terror. This drug is not that hard to get off of Lisa but people do not use all the tools-AA therapy Doctors ETC JMO
I needed my Doctor the first time Or I would be dead. She made me go to therapy and meetings. It all works hand in hand. As you wean SLOWLY before you know it you got 6 months clean time and your down to 3-4 mg feeling good about yourself.
Assuming you use my weaning taught to me by my first Sub doc
Sitiing at home trying to come off this stuff is not the way to go. You need to be out daily.
Yea were all different but I have to Chime in.
This drug Suboxone seems to be getting ripped. Its really simple. JMO--take it for what its worth. My first sub doctor believes 8mg in 2mg increments cutting 1mg a month to 4 mg then you slow down to .5 mg each 2-4 weeks until you get down to 2mg then each 2-4 weeks you keep cutting and prepare the mental and minor physical W/D its nothing like the W/D I have read about or my own experiences.
And you make the cut at your bedtime dose. Example if your on 8 cutting to 7 you take 2mg 3x and your 4th dose as late as possible you cut to 1mg giving a total of 7 mg use this as written below. It works.
I feel people give the drug to much power. I believe people are misinformed about suboxone.
8 mg = about 8months to get off. And what now all the people on suboxone expect NO w/D well there is a little bit more for others I guess.
None of us are the same but anyone taking 12-16 mg you should really think about WITH YOUR DOCTOR SUPERVISING to get down to 4 mg and then re-evaluate.
Any dose over 8mg is probably to much-
Your doctor can prescribe meds to help with W/D
I am only posting cause some people have come on lately trashing sub--
Saved my life but yea like any other drug it stopped working for my pain. So why take it??
So i got off it. Anybody can get off sub. Its not that hard. It takes commitment. Yes some people I have read freaked out and in all probability not in therapy OR AA or seeing a doctor.
I guess I am one of the lucky ones. Good luck to all sub users you can get off but you must do itr SLOWLY with a doctor and you need F2F with doctor aand JMHO
But AA is certainly a cheap alternative to sub and the doctors so if its me I work real hard cutting my doses.
Jeff
Come on Lisa terror? LOL Terror for me and you i think was going C/T thats terror. This drug is not that hard to get off of Lisa but people do not use all the tools-AA therapy Doctors ETC JMO
I needed my Doctor the first time Or I would be dead. She made me go to therapy and meetings. It all works hand in hand. As you wean SLOWLY before you know it you got 6 months clean time and your down to 3-4 mg feeling good about yourself.
Assuming you use my weaning taught to me by my first Sub doc
Sitiing at home trying to come off this stuff is not the way to go. You need to be out daily.
Yea were all different but I have to Chime in.
This drug Suboxone seems to be getting ripped. Its really simple. JMO--take it for what its worth. My first sub doctor believes 8mg in 2mg increments cutting 1mg a month to 4 mg then you slow down to .5 mg each 2-4 weeks until you get down to 2mg then each 2-4 weeks you keep cutting and prepare the mental and minor physical W/D its nothing like the W/D I have read about or my own experiences.
And you make the cut at your bedtime dose. Example if your on 8 cutting to 7 you take 2mg 3x and your 4th dose as late as possible you cut to 1mg giving a total of 7 mg use this as written below. It works.
I feel people give the drug to much power. I believe people are misinformed about suboxone.
8 mg = about 8months to get off. And what now all the people on suboxone expect NO w/D well there is a little bit more for others I guess.
None of us are the same but anyone taking 12-16 mg you should really think about WITH YOUR DOCTOR SUPERVISING to get down to 4 mg and then re-evaluate.
Any dose over 8mg is probably to much-
Your doctor can prescribe meds to help with W/D
I am only posting cause some people have come on lately trashing sub--
Saved my life but yea like any other drug it stopped working for my pain. So why take it??
So i got off it. Anybody can get off sub. Its not that hard. It takes commitment. Yes some people I have read freaked out and in all probability not in therapy OR AA or seeing a doctor.
I guess I am one of the lucky ones. Good luck to all sub users you can get off but you must do itr SLOWLY with a doctor and you need F2F with doctor aand JMHO
But AA is certainly a cheap alternative to sub and the doctors so if its me I work real hard cutting my doses.
Jeff
Man my spelling --grammar is just atrocious. My daughter excels in English Lit etc?
Where she gets it from? Cause I am brain dead. If not for spell check?
STACY FEEL BETTER--
Jeff
Where she gets it from? Cause I am brain dead. If not for spell check?
STACY FEEL BETTER--
Jeff
Kim-
I read your post lastnight and have been pondering on it since. I have been on anywhere from 6-8mg's of suboxone for about 14 months, and that amount of time scares me to death. I intended to be on it at most 6 months, and here I am.
I am feeling as if it is time for me to taper off as well, but every time the Dr. appt comes around, I am to afraid to say it, and even more afraid to fail.
While I am thankful for it, I have found it is far more complicated than what I thought going into it originally.
I am trying not to start cutting down my dose again, and see where that goes, but I am honestly getting very nervous about this whole thing.
Hang in there.
Hugs.
I read your post lastnight and have been pondering on it since. I have been on anywhere from 6-8mg's of suboxone for about 14 months, and that amount of time scares me to death. I intended to be on it at most 6 months, and here I am.
I am feeling as if it is time for me to taper off as well, but every time the Dr. appt comes around, I am to afraid to say it, and even more afraid to fail.
While I am thankful for it, I have found it is far more complicated than what I thought going into it originally.
I am trying not to start cutting down my dose again, and see where that goes, but I am honestly getting very nervous about this whole thing.
Hang in there.
Hugs.
