Hi Davey; you know your my methadone wizard...(smile)...question this time is; Im not sleeping very well any more....not like i use to...im up and down, awake through out the night...sleep issues like when you get clean and cant sleep type...just curious...would this have anythng to do with the methadone ? not enough ?...too much...just checking...
Con
Firstly what is the exact dose yer on.....i know ya find it hard to fathom some of the dosing policies at yer clinic.I n my opinion you should be on at least 50ml/mg maybe even 60ml/mg....but i read somewhere on here that yer doc.was raising you by a few mls......not good enuff....thats like a reduction scheme to get folks slowly off methadone.....not stabilise them.Try talking yer dose when ya get home....you may sleep better,but Con i know ya have alot going on recently so maybe this is part of the problem.....i will be on later.....gotta go Sians home from skool................Davey
i have been on methadone for 7 yrs. currently i am on 50mg. i have never gone over 60mg. it didn't matter what my dose was, i have had problems sleeping since the very first day of getting on methadone. it's like i'm always in a light sleep & every little noise wakes me up.i never can sleep longer than 2 hrs straight. i can't ever seem to get in a good deep sleep (this coming from someone who used to be able to sleep through a hurricane..lol). in my opinion, i would say that it's the methadone, only because of my own expeirence. the only time that i can get in a fairly deep sleep is about 4 hrs after i take my dose. unfortunatly that is in the middle of the day, but i do take advantage of it whenever possible & take a good nap.i only go to the clinic once a month so i've thought about trying to take my dose in the evening instead of the morning but it never happens. i always take it within an hour of waking up. is it possible for you to take your dose in the evening? if i can help in anyway just let me know:) jessica
Hi Con, how are you? Well besides not sleeping well? How are things at work?
Well, lets see...Im at 6.5...doc told me last week that 12 is the highest dose they give here in Germany...trying to figure out the dosage thing here is crazy...perhaps 6.5 is 60.5 mgs ?....and you could be right; just alot going on latley; both inside and out...but MWC (misswildcat) I think what you said is true too...i seem to feel sometimes like when you just comming down from a run; aching all over; like someone beat the s*** out of ya...lol...and sleep is never a true sleep...sometimes a deep nod; but it got better for awhile; was sleeping pretty regular, its just recently Im not sleeping too well again...sometimes I think it would be really great to not be on methadone...get so damn tired of it all...but; well, we all know where that probably would lead at this point...the juice is the glue right now in my head..keeping me off the gear ( ya, i like that word too)...so im thinking Davey; Im somewhere it sounds like; at 65 ?...or 60mg...i think i could be just a bit higher...but then...i dont know...i need to be able to sleep; and if its the juice thats making it harder; then i need to go down...my Doc was inching me up; your right...alot of that was the drive i make every day...a big jump in the early times when i had just gotten on it; wasnt a good idea...but now, he's been lettng me jump 1 and 2 mgs at a time...as always Davey; Thanks
Lynn...IM hanging in there at work...the big boss actually came down and talked with me when he heard I wanted top resign...he took some of chiefs out of my line, I had so damn many it was getting ridulous...he wont budge on the supervisor; at leat not yet...but he called everyone in, and sat down and talked to all of us...at least he took an interest and even though things are not perfect, they have improved a tiny bit...im hanging in there right now...your all correct in telling me to wait and calm down and not to do something rash...im glad I didnt...but; we'll see how it goes...how are YOU doing Lynn ?? Read you relapsed but were getting right back on the sober train...did you ?...I hope so Lynn...but its so damn hard isnt it ? sometimes.... Hugs to you
and hugs to MWC and Davey too...
Con
Lynn...IM hanging in there at work...the big boss actually came down and talked with me when he heard I wanted top resign...he took some of chiefs out of my line, I had so damn many it was getting ridulous...he wont budge on the supervisor; at leat not yet...but he called everyone in, and sat down and talked to all of us...at least he took an interest and even though things are not perfect, they have improved a tiny bit...im hanging in there right now...your all correct in telling me to wait and calm down and not to do something rash...im glad I didnt...but; we'll see how it goes...how are YOU doing Lynn ?? Read you relapsed but were getting right back on the sober train...did you ?...I hope so Lynn...but its so damn hard isnt it ? sometimes.... Hugs to you
and hugs to MWC and Davey too...
Con
You probably need to go up a bit.Most people who have trouble sleeping find its because their dose is not adjusted properly on the higher side. Usually because clinics and/or counselors think they are doing you a favor- by keeping you on a dose that is too low >when in fact ,they are not .
Try to work that out.- - you can always go back down
sweetdreams
jack
Try to work that out.- - you can always go back down
sweetdreams
jack
Alrite Con ,from what i can gather you are on btwn 60ml/mg and 65ml. a medium to low dose....once i was on 60ml.yrs ago and found it tooo low so i asked the sawbones to raise me so he raised me to 70ml that week then onto 80ml. the following week.....and i felt better for it less cravings,less of that racing mind...skitzo will i wont i game.Are ya getting the benzo from yer Doc still?if you are and this is just me ,i would try and get on one that stays in yer system ...basically one that calms you for longer ,or take it as a sleep aide as ya know of course the benzo family is an a addiction in itself,but you said before ya didnt like the one yer on,so maybe try to get yer doc to put you on a longer acting benzo i.e diazepam(valium).Just a thought.....take care dearest and i hope you and the Missus had a nice chill weekend together.ATB..............Davey
Ahhh, the racing mind...totally ...Doc gave me those anti-d's for that; not benzos; no, never again with benzos davey...I know you like them; but I really hated them...defiently depends on your chemical make up.. I dont really like the anti-d's either; Im taking them only as needed...they help with the sleep; but its more like a sleeping pill...just puts me totally out, like dead pretty much...I think you hit it on the nose....totally racing head, and some craving still...I kind of thought so too; that if I went up; just a tiny bit higher then I think/thought that perhpas a lot of the racing head, aching joints, sleep issues...that maybe it would help...Will be a few weeks until I can ask the Doc; but then; like I said; he's been letting me jump a few mgs now up at a time...see if I can jump up a little bit; 7 or 8 and see if this makes a big difference...Thansk Davey ") Hugs to you and the little one ! :) Glad your "girls" gave their wonderful man a nice Valentines card :) ! My Missus brought me home a really nice stone to wear...couldnt beleive she even remembered...she's not the remembering type for things like that..ha ha..was nice to be thought about ..:) .
Con
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