Hi, everyone
I have a question. When you started to use pain pills, heroin, etc., did you desire for alcohol decrease? Just curious.
Love,
Susan
Thats a pretty good question for me.
When I started to use heroin,yes my desire to use any other type of drug decreased.
Except maybe alcohol,but even there,I didnt drink to intoxication anymore -only 1 or 2.
When I came out of rehab- and was totally clean and drug free for 6 months(total)- I didnt have a desire to use any other drug. Although I did a few valium,and a few different pain pills- I really didnt get into them or have a desire for anything else. Hell-during that time, I didnt even drink coffee(I lost the taste,and I thought the caffine made me jumpy). However then and even now alcohol will lead me back to my DOC.
When I totally relapsed it was because the desire to use heroin was to strong for me to fight anymore and I stopped doing all the things they told me to do in rehab- BTW,I think me and your son went to the same rehab- WD in pa?
Now with me on mdone- my desire for other drugs isnt there for me- but I do drink coffee again and have to be aware od the amount of alcohol I drink at a party . The desire for heroin isnt totally gone- but Im doing real well-
Hpoe your Christmas was great and have a great beginning to a new year.
Thanks for your friendship Susan, it was appreciated big time
Jack
When I started to use heroin,yes my desire to use any other type of drug decreased.
Except maybe alcohol,but even there,I didnt drink to intoxication anymore -only 1 or 2.
When I came out of rehab- and was totally clean and drug free for 6 months(total)- I didnt have a desire to use any other drug. Although I did a few valium,and a few different pain pills- I really didnt get into them or have a desire for anything else. Hell-during that time, I didnt even drink coffee(I lost the taste,and I thought the caffine made me jumpy). However then and even now alcohol will lead me back to my DOC.
When I totally relapsed it was because the desire to use heroin was to strong for me to fight anymore and I stopped doing all the things they told me to do in rehab- BTW,I think me and your son went to the same rehab- WD in pa?
Now with me on mdone- my desire for other drugs isnt there for me- but I do drink coffee again and have to be aware od the amount of alcohol I drink at a party . The desire for heroin isnt totally gone- but Im doing real well-
Hpoe your Christmas was great and have a great beginning to a new year.
Thanks for your friendship Susan, it was appreciated big time
Jack
Dear Jack,
Thanks for your reply. I truthfully don't think my son is back on heroin YET but I am afraid of where he's headed. He claims he's taking a few vicodin for his knee pain. I noticed he doesn't seem to go out drinking as often. I was surprised that he didn't want to go out for his birthday (he turned 31 at midnight) although I think he has plans to go out tonight.
Yes, he did go to White Deer Run near Williamsport. He liked his counselor a lot and wanted to stay longer, but he was on Medicaid (which was a blessing) BUT they wouldn't approve more time and he wanted to stay. We offered to pay to have him stay longer, and they said that isn't the way it works and wouldn't allow it. Seems crazy to me if the addict feels the need for more time. Did you like it there? My son's outpatient was pretty much worthless. We liked the inpatient rehab so much, so we thought the outpatient would be as good. They were having a change-over of personnel and everything went downhill.
I truly think his knee pain got him started on something again. He is the type that goes after what he wants...for better or worse. When the doctor wouldn't give him a stronger pain reliever (because of his past addiction problem), he made up his mind he wasn't going to suffer.
Please pray for my son. I always think the prayers of people who understand what you're going through are more powerful. When I started to see some suspicious stuff I offered to drive him to the sub doctor in the area if he wanted to. He said he was fine.
I'm proud of you for doing so well, and I appreciate your help, compassion, and friendship.
Love,
Susan
Thanks for your reply. I truthfully don't think my son is back on heroin YET but I am afraid of where he's headed. He claims he's taking a few vicodin for his knee pain. I noticed he doesn't seem to go out drinking as often. I was surprised that he didn't want to go out for his birthday (he turned 31 at midnight) although I think he has plans to go out tonight.
Yes, he did go to White Deer Run near Williamsport. He liked his counselor a lot and wanted to stay longer, but he was on Medicaid (which was a blessing) BUT they wouldn't approve more time and he wanted to stay. We offered to pay to have him stay longer, and they said that isn't the way it works and wouldn't allow it. Seems crazy to me if the addict feels the need for more time. Did you like it there? My son's outpatient was pretty much worthless. We liked the inpatient rehab so much, so we thought the outpatient would be as good. They were having a change-over of personnel and everything went downhill.
I truly think his knee pain got him started on something again. He is the type that goes after what he wants...for better or worse. When the doctor wouldn't give him a stronger pain reliever (because of his past addiction problem), he made up his mind he wasn't going to suffer.
Please pray for my son. I always think the prayers of people who understand what you're going through are more powerful. When I started to see some suspicious stuff I offered to drive him to the sub doctor in the area if he wanted to. He said he was fine.
I'm proud of you for doing so well, and I appreciate your help, compassion, and friendship.
Love,
Susan
Susan,
He is admitting to you he's taking the Vic's? I worried about him with his knee and that's been months now I guees, right? That so stinks. I hate anyone to be in pain. O.K. I know this won't go over big, but could you recommend you hold them? I KNOW. I KNOW. It's all on him, and that will start a fight.
I wish I was there. I'll tell you when I had a replapse after a year clean one time it was in that same order. I wanted the pills. My mom called my Doc. He liked me and would prescribe them and it was legitimate. I was truly in pain. Well, you call my Doctor than watch me get my own only better.
Susan, I'm sorry. He's intelligent and kind, and a good guy all around. In my heart I think he'll see what he's setting himself up for. I KNOW nagging won't help. Crying won't help, but my heart aches for you and him. I've never really drank, but when I came off pills one time I did, and it got me more depressed. All pre-heroin, and wasn't on them that long, and didn't abuse them, but they fill that hole. Not only physical pain. It fills us. Prayers going up as they have been only urgently now to Saint Anne. I hope this helps a little.
He is admitting to you he's taking the Vic's? I worried about him with his knee and that's been months now I guees, right? That so stinks. I hate anyone to be in pain. O.K. I know this won't go over big, but could you recommend you hold them? I KNOW. I KNOW. It's all on him, and that will start a fight.
I wish I was there. I'll tell you when I had a replapse after a year clean one time it was in that same order. I wanted the pills. My mom called my Doc. He liked me and would prescribe them and it was legitimate. I was truly in pain. Well, you call my Doctor than watch me get my own only better.
Susan, I'm sorry. He's intelligent and kind, and a good guy all around. In my heart I think he'll see what he's setting himself up for. I KNOW nagging won't help. Crying won't help, but my heart aches for you and him. I've never really drank, but when I came off pills one time I did, and it got me more depressed. All pre-heroin, and wasn't on them that long, and didn't abuse them, but they fill that hole. Not only physical pain. It fills us. Prayers going up as they have been only urgently now to Saint Anne. I hope this helps a little.
Hi Susan,
I know you don't know me and vice versa but the only way of getting to know people here is replying to posts so I just thought I'd throw my tuppence worth in.. For sure when I was using H, never got into pain pills tg, my desire for alcohol went to nil.. Like Jack (I think) said, even when I was out I would only have one or two and that was because you had to have something in front of you really.. I find I'm more inclined to have a drink now because I'm not doing anything else and that's something I have to be very aware of, replacing one thing for another, etc, etc, etc....
I don't know your son's situation at all but I do know mine and there it is in black and white above.. Using - no drinking / Not using - drinking lots.. Gonna settle down on the alcohol over the next few days though coz I think I'm through the worst of it.
Anyway, enough of my rambling.. Happy New Year to ya all.. May it bring all the cheer and happiness that each and every one of us deserve..
Best wishes.
I know you don't know me and vice versa but the only way of getting to know people here is replying to posts so I just thought I'd throw my tuppence worth in.. For sure when I was using H, never got into pain pills tg, my desire for alcohol went to nil.. Like Jack (I think) said, even when I was out I would only have one or two and that was because you had to have something in front of you really.. I find I'm more inclined to have a drink now because I'm not doing anything else and that's something I have to be very aware of, replacing one thing for another, etc, etc, etc....
I don't know your son's situation at all but I do know mine and there it is in black and white above.. Using - no drinking / Not using - drinking lots.. Gonna settle down on the alcohol over the next few days though coz I think I'm through the worst of it.
Anyway, enough of my rambling.. Happy New Year to ya all.. May it bring all the cheer and happiness that each and every one of us deserve..
Best wishes.
Yeah Lou
That drinking can be tricky. IM glad i really lost the desire to drink a lot, but once in awhile I will have a have a few -and although I dont use- I always think about it.
Its harder thru the holidays, with booze everywhere you go- -but- I know what will happen if I go to far.-
Its a dangerous road- better that I dont go on it.
Happy New Year
jack
That drinking can be tricky. IM glad i really lost the desire to drink a lot, but once in awhile I will have a have a few -and although I dont use- I always think about it.
Its harder thru the holidays, with booze everywhere you go- -but- I know what will happen if I go to far.-
Its a dangerous road- better that I dont go on it.
Happy New Year
jack
