Questions, Questions And More Questions

Pain Pills
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need some good advice and encouragement, I am on day 2 of the w/d I had to go cold turkey and this is not my first time going thru the w/d. The problem is I never made it more then a week before the monkey was on my back again. I talked to a detox center and even with insurance they want 2 grand up front for an inpatient program. If I had 2 grand in my pocket do they really think I would be talking to them. Hell no it would be my doctor or my street friend. But what I did learn at detox was that they use librium to help with the w/d. So I went to the dr. office and of course he was'nt there (busy playing golf at 3pm) and I told the nurse I was hooked on pain pills and they were controlling my life and that I was going cold turkey could the dr call in a precription for librium to ease the w/d. she called later and said no. I am trying to come off a habit of 12 to 15 vics and percs a day. Been using a very long time and cant get that glow feeling anymore, have to use to just be able to funtion and feel normal. Has anyone tried the librium, was it hard to get from the dr., how long until the energy is back in your life. I know the w/d are 4 to 7 days but how long before I get my life back where I have the energy and the want to go do something. Like I said I am not a virgin to the w/d I am stocked up on b-12, multi vitamins, midol ( i'm a guy but they help) tylenol, potassium, ginseng and imodium. If librium is hard to get what else is there and is there anything else that will give me energy. looking for good advice. Thanks
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Have you ever considered using Suboxone?You have to see an addiction specialist but it is well worth it.For those of us that are constant relapsers I do believe it helps more than I can explain.I am currently on it and my life is getting better everyday! Although I do have bad days just like evryone atleast now it is not because of the opiates .Welcome to the board.Cristina
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I have read a little about the suboxone but where do I begin. Do I have to see a specialist to get it and does insurance cover it. And will I have to go thru w/d when I come off of the sub. What I have read it sounds like the sub will make me feel normal.
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Clonidine helped a little bit with my last time thru wd's. But other than that and some basic OTC stuff, you just have to suck it up and get thru the wd's as best you can.

Get exercise, drink lots of water, pray, go to meetings. Just don't use.

Good luck;
Jim
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Rascal,

Sub does help ease the withdrawl, but when the sub is up you're still faced with yourself. If you've done it cold turkey before, do it again. I had quit numerous times, always relapsed. The difference for me this time was face to face support. I was on sub, 10 weeks, but during that time I started meetings. Without a doubt in my mind I would have relapsed again after sub if not for outside support. Some people can quit and never look back, not me...I needed to be programmed differently. Nothing changes if nothing changes.

I'm clean now for almost 10 months now.

Redd
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how long did it take to get the energy back during the 10 months
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Hey Rascal, You said you've been through the w/d before so you know what to expect. 7 days or so of feeling sick, then a couple of weeks of weakness. ANd if your Dr. has already said no, sounds like you might just have to gut it out. It's no fun, but many of us did it. But I also think we fear the w/d so much and allow the anxiety to build in a disproportionate way. They aren't as bad as we think they will be. Also for me, in the worst of it, that's when the cravings are less. Can you miss a little work? Or see your Dr. in person about the sub? Not many would prescribe for a detox w/o seeing the patient. Especially a potentially abused drug. But if you see him maybe he can help you get through the 1st couple of weeks. We all know tho', there is no free ride in this. There is a price to pay as there is in anything worthwhile. I so wanted a magic bullet to make stopping easy. But it tkaes commitment and willingness and yes, suffering. I would ask you to think about the rewards. Being free of the constant worrying of running out. NOt having nearly every thought consumed by the dance of copping pills. I'm just getting used to living normally. It's a huge change, but one I'm so very grateful for. I'll pray for you...just give it a try, see your Dr. A new life awaits you. Well worth the couple of weeks of suffering.
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With sub, the energy level was immediately replaced. But after sub there was a lull of about a month of feeling moody and not wanting to do much. I forced myself to get about my day. Excercise and keeping busy helped, even when its the last thing you want to do, especially then.

Redd
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Well good job for wanting off......just hang in there past the worse days and then you can make it........after my 4th day od wd from methadone I started taking Vit. C, GABA and DLPH..all from a natural food store.......it sure helped.today is going on 15 days and everyday I feel better......and I know my energy is coming back.I get a little more everyday.good thing is I am laughing again...Hang in there..it can be done for good
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hello, rascal
Im on sub. and for some it does wonders and it did for me.I was very happy and i thank god for it.I was seem like the end of the road after useing pers,hyros,vics,what ever with codein in it.Most that i have heard about does take insurance and i guess it depenes on what kind you have.As for me i have to buy as mine meds. and pay the pys. fee.What state are you in?These doctor here which are very few can prescribe suboxone.If you need help email me at lovelytobe23@yahoo.com


Belive me i know how you are feeling and i have done the cold trukey many times and fall everytime i conmend the ones here doing it on thier own.I can look your state up and find you a sub. doctor which i see a psy. that prescribes mine .The ones hee in ga. can only have 30 patient at a time.Just email me and i will get to searching for one in your area .I would give a few of them a call for you and get all the information and then you can go from there.If you are wanting to try sub. good luck crystal