Hi Rachael
Just wanted to comment about the endless thread about quitting drugs but drinking wine (or other things)
I Could not sit & read 94 posts about this topic, It's not going to sink in anyway to anyone who isn't ready to hear it.
You are right as far as I'm concerned.........I Spent so many years sitting in the rooms of AA, 4 sometimes 5 meetings a week.
Without fail, year after year.....I watched people who just thought they KNEW what they could handle, Only to substitute one thing for another........and without fail, I Never saw one of them come back & say it worked.....Quite the oppisite, and I include myself in the people who tried it another way.
We are pre-diposed to the disease of addiction.......Period, we don't have the coping mecanism's that non-addicted people have.
No matter what our DOC is, If we substitute it with ANYTHING........We will fall on our @ss.......That's just the way it is and until some brilliant scientist comes up with some other way, It's gonna continue that way.........I Don't care if people go to meetings or not, The AA/NA Way is a proven & so far the only thing that's been proven to work!!
Any other way is self-will run riot and will get you in a heap of sh*t
I Am not talking about people taking medicine for very real problems.......Some people have to take certain medications.....And I Would never judge a person's sobriety because they HAVE to take things for medical problems.
But If people think for one minute that because a certain thing was never a problem in the past.......Your dillisional If you think that at some point, (and it might take years) That it's not going to bite you in the @ss
And It MIGHT even be worse..........Many of us have been down this road before & have already tried it our way........It did NOT work!!
If someone has come up with a better way..........It must have got by me.
For people who are still thin skinned.......Please don't get mad & leave the board!! People care enough to tell you the truth.........It was NOT an attack.
To Thine Own Self Be True!!
Love Dottie
Hi Dottie:
My experience is I had a problem with cocaine and went into AA at 21. I stayed sober for seven years but always had reservations about the alcoholic thing. It bugged me. I started drinking a little wine. Never got drunk but 10 years later I am scoring drugs in downtown Los Angeles. I didn't have a problem with alcohol (Ha!) and it was a long time before I connected the dots (10 years). That reservation about being an alcoholic cost me 10 years of my life. Thanks Dottie :-)
Rachel
I started out with alcohol, switched to cocaine then pills. Haven't drank in 26 years. If I picked up a drink today, I would be right back where I started.
I need to remember NOT to do that.
Have a good night girls.
Cowgirl
Rachel...YGM
I need to remember NOT to do that.
Have a good night girls.
Cowgirl
Rachel...YGM
Hi,
A drug is a drug is a drug...Can't quit using using or drinking drinking. I had a reservation last time, got away from meetings and acted on it big time. I must say, not having any reservations anymore is for me a freedom I can't put into words. I'm goin' through alot of sh-- these days, and I can honestly say the thought of a drink or drug hasn't entered my mind once. For me I make a meeting everyday, sometimes two, no way do I ever wanna forget where I came from or how I never have to feel again. I know a drink or drug will only make things worse. For the first time I truley understand what they mean when they say...."It's the first drink/drug that gets me drunk/high".
Hi Dottie and Rachel, it's good to see ya', thanks for letting me share...
Take care......Bob
A drug is a drug is a drug...Can't quit using using or drinking drinking. I had a reservation last time, got away from meetings and acted on it big time. I must say, not having any reservations anymore is for me a freedom I can't put into words. I'm goin' through alot of sh-- these days, and I can honestly say the thought of a drink or drug hasn't entered my mind once. For me I make a meeting everyday, sometimes two, no way do I ever wanna forget where I came from or how I never have to feel again. I know a drink or drug will only make things worse. For the first time I truley understand what they mean when they say...."It's the first drink/drug that gets me drunk/high".
Hi Dottie and Rachel, it's good to see ya', thanks for letting me share...
Take care......Bob
lol,
Hi Lisa, didn't see you had posted! *wink*............Bob
Hi Lisa, didn't see you had posted! *wink*............Bob
Bob:
I missed you here, especially today. I could have used your wisdom.
Rachel
Rachel
I Know exactly what you mean, I Look at people's reaction to this point much like I Do being a Parent, You can tell your kid over & over that something is bad for them & they look at you like your nut's
20 yrs. down the road, They admit to you that everything you ever told them would get them in trouble, .........DID in fact cause them a problem.......But they had to learn it the hard way..........I Wish people with a short amount of time could just understand that these things are said, not out of malice, but with Love, It would be so much easier, But you just gotta keep telling them the truth & hope for the best.
Love Dottie
I Know exactly what you mean, I Look at people's reaction to this point much like I Do being a Parent, You can tell your kid over & over that something is bad for them & they look at you like your nut's
20 yrs. down the road, They admit to you that everything you ever told them would get them in trouble, .........DID in fact cause them a problem.......But they had to learn it the hard way..........I Wish people with a short amount of time could just understand that these things are said, not out of malice, but with Love, It would be so much easier, But you just gotta keep telling them the truth & hope for the best.
Love Dottie
Hi Rachel,
You ok?
Earlier tonight was my weekly step study, plus I'm not online nearly as often anymore. I hope your ok, your posts are good, I've read a few of them just now and always enjoy them. Also I saw some of that Oprah show yesterday, I turned it off after I heard the guy say he didn't need a 12 step program, I also noticed he said he still, after 13 years clean, has obsessions. For me, I tried it alone and for me, I need the help and support of others just like me, I can't even entertain the idea of doing it without the program and fellowship.
Take care.......Bob
You ok?
Earlier tonight was my weekly step study, plus I'm not online nearly as often anymore. I hope your ok, your posts are good, I've read a few of them just now and always enjoy them. Also I saw some of that Oprah show yesterday, I turned it off after I heard the guy say he didn't need a 12 step program, I also noticed he said he still, after 13 years clean, has obsessions. For me, I tried it alone and for me, I need the help and support of others just like me, I can't even entertain the idea of doing it without the program and fellowship.
Take care.......Bob
I'm fine. I was a little reminiscent earlier when I posted how you were here when I got here :-) You, None and Cowgirl to show me the way.
Rachel
Bob
Good to see you, I'm so glad you shared that.......It really is the "stinkin thinkin" that get's us so screwed up, It's sad, but the fact of the matter is, people who don't want to listen to people who have tried their own way...Will have to find out the hard way
Love Dottie
Good to see you, I'm so glad you shared that.......It really is the "stinkin thinkin" that get's us so screwed up, It's sad, but the fact of the matter is, people who don't want to listen to people who have tried their own way...Will have to find out the hard way
Love Dottie
Oh yea..really needed you here today Bob.
I haven't seen this much confusion about something so simple in a long time....
Have a good night guys.
XXX
CG
I haven't seen this much confusion about something so simple in a long time....
Have a good night guys.
XXX
CG
Aww,
Thats was nice what you posted, I just saw that. Aside from letting myself down, I feel like I let others down too. Thats another reason I don't post as often, I feel like people are thinking.."He's full of sh--".. but thats my sick head.
I know I'm for real and that should be good enough, but you know how sensetive we can be, self worth etc..etc..I'm getting better with that, slow but sure. My buddy penciled me in to speak for my 90 days in a couple weeks, I almost feel like I don't have the right to speak after picking up, but I'll do it, I'm not doing anything "my way" these days...lol...It'll be at my home group, I do the coffee anyway so it'll give me a chance to apologize for that rocket fuel I make twice a week! lol
Take care.......Bob
Thats was nice what you posted, I just saw that. Aside from letting myself down, I feel like I let others down too. Thats another reason I don't post as often, I feel like people are thinking.."He's full of sh--".. but thats my sick head.
I know I'm for real and that should be good enough, but you know how sensetive we can be, self worth etc..etc..I'm getting better with that, slow but sure. My buddy penciled me in to speak for my 90 days in a couple weeks, I almost feel like I don't have the right to speak after picking up, but I'll do it, I'm not doing anything "my way" these days...lol...It'll be at my home group, I do the coffee anyway so it'll give me a chance to apologize for that rocket fuel I make twice a week! lol
Take care.......Bob
You didn't let anyone down. You are very much needed here on this board. It makes me smile when I see you post.
Rachel
Hey Lisa
How's it going tonight? I Liked what you said about the drinking........I Haven't had a drink in 14 yrs. But I know if I Tried even 1.........Well, might as well dig my grave, cuz it would be over in a heartbeat........That's a road I Don't try to BS myself about.
Love Dottie
How's it going tonight? I Liked what you said about the drinking........I Haven't had a drink in 14 yrs. But I know if I Tried even 1.........Well, might as well dig my grave, cuz it would be over in a heartbeat........That's a road I Don't try to BS myself about.
Love Dottie
Hi there Bob! Good to see you, still think of you often. Please don't feel bad... you know we have all been there and what counts is your back in the saddle... know what i mean? You are a very good person... don't let your head play games with you... mine does that too. When you get up there and speak... go with your heart. At those meetings we are like family and no one is thinking that you are full of #hit. Promise... :) Good night Bob... see ya tomorrow.
Love and God Bless,
Bri :)
Love and God Bless,
Bri :)
Hi Dottie... just wanted to say that i have seen how far you have come and i am so proud to know you. I like what you said about the kids learning the hard way no matter what their parents tell them. My dad and i use to butt heads all the time.... when he found out i was taking his pills he warned me that if i didn't get help i would end up in jail. Ha! 3 weeks later, i was sitting in the county jail... but, it's like you said... i had to find out the hard way. Good night Dottie... see ya in the morning!
Love ya,
Bri :)
Love ya,
Bri :)
Hi,
Thanks Rachel, thats nice to hear..*wink* Thanks also Dottie and Lisa, I better get offline before my hat gets too small! lol
It's really nice to see you guys ( opps..Gals ) too..Talk to ya' later, I'll stop by tomorrow night after I get home, it's double shot Friday! Two meetings..lol sure would be cool to someday be able to go to a meeting together huh..Goodnight.
Take care.......Bob
Thanks Rachel, thats nice to hear..*wink* Thanks also Dottie and Lisa, I better get offline before my hat gets too small! lol
It's really nice to see you guys ( opps..Gals ) too..Talk to ya' later, I'll stop by tomorrow night after I get home, it's double shot Friday! Two meetings..lol sure would be cool to someday be able to go to a meeting together huh..Goodnight.
Take care.......Bob
Hi Bri,
Thanks and nice to see you too, goodnight..Bob
Thanks and nice to see you too, goodnight..Bob
The only person you let down, Bob, was yourself. You know that you're back on track and that's all that matters. I also wish you would post more. You're the prime example of what happens when you don't work a program. Of what can happen when you get cocky and think you can do it your way.
Hi Dottie...you're just like me. One addiction leads to another because we're always looking for that way to be numb and not feel. Life isn't fun sometimes but I'll take it clean and sober any ol day.
Hi Bri....
xxx
CG
Hi Dottie...you're just like me. One addiction leads to another because we're always looking for that way to be numb and not feel. Life isn't fun sometimes but I'll take it clean and sober any ol day.
Hi Bri....
xxx
CG
"Life isn't fun sometimes but I'll take it clean and sober any ol day"
Ditto!!!!!!.......*wink*.........Goodnight........Bob.
Ditto!!!!!!.......*wink*.........Goodnight........Bob.
