Recoveryhappens, What Worked For You ?

recoveryhappens, I read you were addicted for 20 years , now have 51/2 years clean. If you dont mind , could you tell us what helped you most with your recovery , and how you fight off any urges to use again . We all have our different paths to follow I'm sure. I do believe though that if we share our experiences , we can and will show others the way to beat this beast .I realise it is far more complicated than just a couple of magic answers . a few things that stick out in your mind as being extremely helpful would sure be of use to us, thanks, and congrats on really turning something around , you inspire me , there is hope after addiction
Hi,
Thanks for asking. I have to say the most important thing that works for me is I have learned how to be comfortable in my own skin and when I'm not I have learned to work through the feelings. I will give you a little history about my addiction. I started using when I was 11 years old. I never thought of it being bad it was just what everyone I hung around did. It wasn't until I was about 17 when I got my frist taste of Meth and I fell in love. It made feel "normal" and that's all it took. I didn't realize I had a problem until I was 25 and it was only a problem when I didn't have any dope other wise in my mind I was fine. I ran with " I am a addict" therefore I needs drugs and to bad if anyone didn't like it. Believe me a lot bad s*** happen, however the only way I knew how to be me was high.I could go maybe 2 days without it but by the 3rd day I was crawling out of my skin. I got sober for 3 and 1/2 years only because the system said I had to and I was miserable everyday. I never found out how to be confortable in my own skin. So I finally started using again and I felt like myself again and I swore I would never get sober again. I thouht anyone who was sober and happy was lying and my plan was to die a using drug addict. It wasn't until I was 35 years old when the drug stopped working for me. I couldn't stand being high anymore but I didn't know how to be sober.I wanted to die because I didn't know how to live. I had heard of people giving their addiction to God and thought they were crazy. GIVE MY DOPE TO GOD NO WAY!! I was so full of pain I finally surrender and turned to God. I got out there and I learned from other addicts how they stay sober. I learned a person is only as good as the information they have and I knew I needed new information on how to live life a different way. I learned how to be confortable in my own skin. I learned how to deal with my feelings without medicating them. I found people who had recovery and wanted what they had. I found purpose and meaning in my life. I learned all about my addiction and how I don't have to listen to it. My head can be a really scary place to be sometimes so I have tools of recovery to stop the negative thoughts. I believe in myself and in the process of recovery. It not easy all the time and it takes doing the footwork to make it work and it is a never ending process. I love my life today. I am grateful everyday. I believe recovery is about the endless possibilities and that there is not just one way of doing it. A person has to find out what works for them. I'm not sure what else to say. Write back I would like to hear where your at. I hope this was helpful.
Denise
What a great post Denise! I could really relate to the never wanting to be sober and thinking that anyone who is sober and claims to be happy is either lying or pretending they are happy so that they can stay sober.

Also you wrote "the only way I knew how to be me was high" That sums me up. When I am high I know who I am, what I believe in, have a (usually) educated opinion on everything, i can function, I can succeed, I can be all that I want, all that people need. Sober I am scared of everything, i question every decision, I accomplish nothing, I don't feel inspired, my goals become blurry or disappear totally. I am a nothing without drugs.

Please write some more, I really want to understand how each of the changes you made actually changed your core thinking and feeling. Are you really happier sober? Do you still crave P? Do you have to fight your addiction every day?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Hugs
Charmed
Hi Charmed,

When I first got sober I too was scared, unsure of myself, had low self -esteem and self worth. I was so numb from doing drugs I didn't know how to feel and when I did it scared the hell out of me. Meth had a way of making me feel all the things I wanted to feel about yourself. It gave me false self- esteem, made me feel powerful. I know when I was still using and wasn't high I felt so bad about myself I couldn't stand being me. The second I got high I was on top of the world. I was smart, beautiful, full of self confidence and could do anything I put my mind to. The sad part was, I was only as good as the dope was. If the dope wasn't any good I was worthless!!!! When I got sober I wanted to learn how to feel all the good things about myself without using. For the first nine months I concentrated on staying sober. I went to meetings, went to work, found fun things to do. However, I also gained a lot of weight and being a meth head using speed was always away for me to keep my weight down. I notice I started shuting down, sleeping a lot and getting depressed. My head was telling me to go get high to lose weight, but I didn't want to go back to that life. So I knew I had to act fast and I started learning how to lose weight by exercising and changing my relationship with food. It never occurred to me in my addiction to ever do that. Anyway this was when I finally felt I had power over the way I thought and felt about myself. I was in control not my addiction. I learned "what you think about you bring about" and all I used to think about was drugs and drugs and more drugs. I changed my thinking process. I had a vision of how I wanted to look and I made it happen. I had a vision of what kind of car I wanted to drive and I did the footwork and made it happen. I found out within myself my purpose"working with other addict: and went to school to become a drug and alcohol counselor and made it happen. I learn how to believe in myself by telling myself I can do anything I choose. Drugs could no longer dictate how I would feel or what I would think. You asked about cravings. I have to tell you the day I got sober I woke up sick, a stung out meth junkie in search of getting high and for some reason everywhere I went I could not find dope that day. I was at place in my head I just wanted to die. After searching I went home I was so broken inside I didn't know what to do. The only thing I felt I had left inside me was to ask GOD for help. I got on my knees and prayed to remove the obsession, to help with the uncontrolable craving and he did. And I was amazed. I have to tell you I never even got out of bed unless I knew I was going to get high. And like I wrote in my other post I could only go maybe 2 days without getting high and I was a mess. The day I got sober was on a Friday I had told my boss I was strung out on dope and that I couldn't work anymore. He told me to go get better and then come back. In my mind that was going to be along time, but by the grace of God that weekend I slept and Monday morning I was back at work. Now that was a miracle for me. I don't have cravings. I don't ever want to get high, however I do have bad days and thats ok because I know they will pass. Yes I am happy, I am happy with the person I have become. I am grateful for the freedom from my addiction. I am happy to wake up everyday and be confortable in my own skin. I hope this is helpful. There is life after drug addiction and I write that with a smile on my face.
Take care.
Denise
Recovery Happens, Please continue to write, for I am very interested. I am sure you have read some of the posts I have written.I am on the other side of the coin--it is my husband who is an addict. My husband is in a 30 day rehab program @ the moment. The program is encouraging him to stay a total of 60 days. I need to know as much info. on this matter so I can be prepared on what to expect. This is his second time in rehab. The first time the union made him go or he would loose his job. He realizes that he went in for all the wrong reasons the first time. This time he did it on his own. I have gotten some really good advice on this site. This site also helps non addicts & helps us understand what an addicts goes through.

JustOneMore, hello my friend. How is the east coast treating you? I hope you brought plenty of blankets for those winter nights. I will continue to monitor your recovery. Just remember, with God on your side anything is possible.I will continue to pray for your recovery. The best of luck, to the BEST. Siempre, tsr

My dearest Charmed, I have been reading your posts. Your poem is beautiful. You are extremly talented. Once again I could feel your soul throuh your words.
Please continue to write, I truely look forward to anything you write. Oh, I almost forgot, I will go to NZ (?) & wait in that long line for your signing & I will take JustOneMore with me. God Bless you my talented friend, adios, tsr

OK, everyone I must go. My munchkins are to quite. I must go see what they are up to. good night & God Bless you all....
Thanks Cathy, that would be cool actually, you and justonemoreflusheddowntoilet in line for an autographed copy, but I I would have to be in costume as i will write it under an alias name. lol.

Recovery happens, thank you for writing more, when I gave up heroin the same thing happened, I went from craving it every second of every day to pretty much never craving it again. Nothing short of a miracle. But as you can see I have replaced it with other drugs. i love being high, I really am a better person high and I can accomplish so much and it sure beats being sober.... i have no idea what I want!

Thanks guys
charmed
recovery happens , thank you for your reply. As you can see there is a strong thirst for knowledge about this demon called meth. I have talked with a friend that has gone thru programs twice , asking him what worked best in his case . Completly getting away from people that he partied with and others that use, surrounding himself with friends that are clean and sober, understand and support his situation seems to be the most important. He also has given himself to his higher power.for him , the 12 step thing didnt fully work, but he did have to admit he was powerless to his addiction , going to meetings helped, if it was the right chemistry of people. I have told him about this site, hopefully he will join in with his input.My lady just said to me that you all are waitin and watchin for me to fall. I have gotten so fricken close, so many times it isnt funny. My attitude is so much stronger this time , helping others gives me much more strength. tsr, I am so happy for you , I hope your husband goes for 60 days , the longer he is clean the stronger he will be , your family is in my thoughts and prayers, charmed, as always I look forward to everything you have to say , interesting article you posted. It opens all kinds of discussion , I got to go , just wanted to pop in and say hi, let you all know I am ok . It's far from easy , but with with you all giving such great support, living in a stress free(well , less than anywhere else , )environment . it makes the low points bearable. I apologize if I ramble or dont make sesnse, I am using this place to tread water. If I dont I feel like I will drown in confusion and depression . thank you all for your words
Hey justonemore,

Sorry to hear you are having a hard time, but you stay strong, I know you will do it, and I know you will help many a long the way!

Why did your lady say we were all just waiting for you to fall down? That is such the opposite and I don't believe you will so I'd be waiting a heck of a long time!

Take care of yourself hun, my prayers and thoughts are with you.

Hugs
Charmed
I think it was just her way of making me hold it together. She knows me well, and by saying that, she knew it would make me try harder , I have to laugh at myself ,.....I grew up with 3 older sisters,I threw the "macho" manly , kind of attitude away when my closest friend , the closest thing I had to a real brother , and as far as I am concerned ,was my brother , commited suicide 20 years ago. yet I still get this "I can do it myself ,I'll show you " kind of mentality goin. how typically male. hahaha, oh well ......at least I know what I am and am getting more comfortable with it .My lady is being wonderful through this . She is understanding , and supportive. doesnt push or nag , yet makes it clear life goes on .More by example than words. she seems to just know what gets me to self motivate . We just got back from amusement park, we went for the first night of halloween stuff. Her 13 year old daughter wanted to go , I couldnt dissapoint her, besides, the scares and wild rides might get the adrenaline flowin ........seemed to work , I dont feel too bad , wish I could say that I dont think about how I wish I had more ,.....but I do .......a lot . I wish I knew why I can rationalize quitting while using , and while quitting all I do is rationalize why I should keep using .....Thank God I found a place to go so far away from my sources,...and for finding this place with you all. charmed, you DO rock , cathy , tsr, recovery happens , honey , self destruct (hang in there ,it does get better) and everyone else , keep writing , it helps more than you know ,
Hi My friends,

Have to say this is a great site and I am glad all of you are on it. One of the great lessons I have learned is it doesn't matter how much time you have 3 days sober 3 years or 30 years.... All anyone has is today. My first instinct in my head is to worry about everything and if I run with that my whole day is messed up. So what I have learned to do is change the way I think and I do it every morning. I take time to get focused each morning remove any negative thoughts and replace them with positive one . Some morning it is really easy and other mornings my head says this is to hard, however I keep doing it and it works. I guess this is one of those morning I need to reach out to others. It's not always easy but the best thing I have found is finding people just like me so we can help each other. Thanks for being here.
Denise
You sure have that right ,usually making something better is/or can be as simple as changing the way we view it . Thank you , it helps tremendously knowing someone else, that has years of use,starting at young age , has managed to move on. that this will be an ongoing battle.You should feel great pride in your strength to not use. I hope I will feel that pride again . I'm gettin there , but untill it becomes easier I will continue to feel that meth has me beat , but it aint over yet ......
Keep up the fight justonemore,
All you have to have is the desire and I can see that you do. I'm here to give support , encouragement and a loving heart to all us addicts just trying to this thing call life. I have to go to work right now I do a group with people trying to stay sober it"s really cool. Then I'm off to my second job working with women with substance abuse and HIV/AIDS. That's what I get to do today and I am grateful. Anyway I'll write later.
Denise
Recovery Happens,
I do know that. I too have fought the fight. I am clean of drugs for nine years now. I am at a place right now in having to deal with my son who is using. I feel so helpless. I have read your postings and was actually in tears. All that you said about what the drug did to you (us) was so true. I was wondering since you are helping others now if you could give me some pointers in helping my boy. I have called so many places and even visited places and I have not received anything as in help for my son. He is not willing to go anywhere yet however he is still under age. I have five months until he turns 18. You see I am running out of time. I am still his mother and he is still under my wing. I can't just kick him out. It is still my job to show him another way. There is so much to this mess it is alot to say. If you could write me back and ask questions you might need to have answers to for you to assist me please write me. I need help.

Sincerely,
Cathy
Hi Cathy,
The hardest thing in the world is for a mother to watch her child get sucked up into this disease. I have 5 kids 3 of them are drug addicts 2 in recovery and 1 still out there. So far the 2 youngest 17 and 16 years old have not done drugs. So I feel your pain. I wish I had words of wisdom to help you. I am going to ask you a few questions concerning your son. Does he know about your drug history? How long has he been using and what kind of drugs does he use? Is he open about his drug use to you ? I'm not sure where you can put him if he is not willing to go, however I could ask around. What location are you looking for to send him into treatment. From my personal and professional experience it is so difficult to get someone to stop using drugs when it's not their own idea. I work with a lot of court ordered people and unless they are looking at doing a lot of jail time or going to lose their kids it is really hard to get them to stop using and even then a big percentage go back out there and use. I know what I am writing doesn't sound very hopeful. From a mothers point of view, I make sure my daughter knows I love her. I am there whenever she wants help finding recovery. I love her no matter what, however there is nothing I can do for her while she is stuck in her disease. I pray for her and hope she gets it one day. My daughter will get 6 months clean and she does really good and then she goes back out. It breaks my heart but I know it's not about me and the more I try to push recovery down her the farther she moves away from me. So the only thing I can do is be the best example of what recovery can be and hope she finds it some day. As far as myself and for anyone else in our situation take care of yourself, don't worry yourself sick, have a support system you can talk to.Have faith and never give up the hope that people can get better, people can change and RECOVERY HAPPENS. Write Back Denise
Just a thought here, when I look back and think of what might have changed me way back in the beginning. I see some programs where they take young kids and show them the real hard truths of what drug and alcohol abuse will bring to their lives, like trips to the morgue, witnessing autopsies. Meeting the parents of kids just lost to overdoses, or drunk drivers . It is morbid and drastic, but I feel that some kids have such great potential and it gets wasted on this vicious ride we call addiction . my personal opinion is it very well might have woken me up a long time ago , and I sometimes think I would like to get a shock type program like that set up as a way to wake up the "all knowing teenagers" before it's too late.........any thoughts on that idea Denise? hang tough cathy ,we're pullin and praying for you and your's
Hey tsr, I am so sorry, I'm a bit fried sometimes and I wrote thanks cathy instead of tsr! I feel stink as, I knew it was you who posted but I'm terrible with names and my memory has been totally out of whack this week, but your kind words are so appreciated and mean so much to me. I hope you are not mad?

How's the plan with the husband going? Its so good too good stuff going on out there.

Hugs
Charmed
Hey everyone, good to see so many post, this board used to be totally slack, like two post a week and it would take a week to get a reply! I think we've really got it pumping, well starting to anyway, lots of thanks to justonemoreflusheddowntoilet!, who has started new posts with questions and info and has posted kind words, encouragement and life experience to everyone who comes to this site, now that people are being reponded to more people will come here for support. There has been a huge improvement soooo...........

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I have a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it A board of trusted members with a plan. Now you can decline the position I have nominated you for, you can nominate yourself for another posisition if preferable (you can make these up too if you want) you can nominate anyone for any position. Anything and anyone that can have a positive affect here can be nominates. Here goes:

justoneflushed,
I nominate you for the position of President of the amphetamine Forum


Reasons for nomination:

**The insight you had and followed through with by starting threads with topics that need knowledge and understanding.
**For reaching out to all new poster and making them feel welcomed to the board.
**For your constant encouragement humour
**For the 35 years of addiction experience and knowledge you can share
**For being like 5 WHOLE days in recovery, and still caring to come to this board and write how it feels for anyone who hasn't been there or may not know what meth withdrawal is like.
**And just for being you, an addict of 35 years in recovery is inspirational to all.

Job Requirments:

Continue doing everything you currently do that you do well
Recovery Happens,
I am nominating you as Cheif of Recovery.


Reasons for nomination

**Your experince and knowledge on addiction
**Your Experience and knowledge on addiction recovery
**Your current job magnifies your knowledge on recovery
**Sharing your story
**Your desire to help addicts in recovery
**and being one that an addict would inspired by

Job Requirement

Keep doing what your doing recovery advice is very important to those struggling, and to those who have loved one's suffering.
tsr, I nominate you to be Cheif of Partners of Addicts

Reasons for nomination:

**You have experienced this personally and can understand their pain.
**You have your story to share
**You have information, and advice that you have seeked out yourself or have learnt through this board that you can pass on
**This will also help, as this group will understand all what you go through also

Requirements of job

Keep doing what you are doing, and keep a lookout for Partners of Addicts

Cathy,
I nominate you to be Chief of Parent's of addicts


Reasons for nomination:

**You have experienced this personally and can understand their pain.
**You have your story to share
**You have information, and advice that you have seeked out yourself or have learnt through this board that you can pass on
**This will also help, as this group will understand all what you go through also

Requirements of job

*Keep doing what you are doing
*Welcome all Partners of Addicts to the board
*Share what you think will help, your story, info, understanding with Partners of Addicts