I see that the thread has been closed, but i want to say i went cold turkey from 80 milligrams of Percs a day just from being hooked over a year, and i am a former Green Beret, i had to eat nails for breakfast in my life and sleep in the jungles of Columbia with a diaper on (so to speak) and if i had to do it all over again i would never go cold turkey, it brought me to my knees like a little baby, and i went thru 30-60days of hell, so knowing what i know now i would do the rapid detox in a heartbeat before that misery of cold turkey, yea i hear it's expensive, but taking 200-300 pills a month isn't?? lol, don't think you can be a tough guy and just suck it up like i did, i stay cleaned for about 9 months and went back to my old ways over the last 4 months, but only doing half of what i was doing before, and as i speak i am weening myself down and quitting smoking at the sametime, but if it doesn't work i'll spend the money to rapid detox or do whatever it takes to be opiate free, but do whatever works, my mistake was not following up with counceling to stay clean. Anyone who saids nicotine is a harder habit to break than opiates should have their head examined, throwing the smokes down the toilet was easy compared to quitting percs. Been their done that. Goodluck
I read about Rapid Detox when I was addicted in my 30's - (this was my 2nd time in my late 40's) it was in an "Arthritis Today" article in my doctor's office. I had already started and stopped lots of times and "CT" still makes me shudder - tapering is not for me - if I have them, I take them, which I'm sure that's not easy either so this sounded like Heaven - there was no way I could afford it - it was even more back then, I think that may have been when it started or like e'thing else, it gets cheaper in time. I'm in SC and it wasn't done anywhere around here - I checked - so I would have also had to fly up north - I was in no shape to fly and I know my husband would have never gone for this amt of money - it would have had to be borrowed.He knows addiction's bad - living with me but I know he probably thinks like I did before I became an addict at 36 - just quit.
Since reading this board, someone had it done besides the new person and it sounded like a nightmare. This new person makes it sound like it worked for her - I know you can't just leave there and forget about drugs - you need to find out about yourself and follow up with therapy, meetings, something or you will start again but I was just wanting to avoid those W/D's - I wish if the person is still reading, they will post their story again, I can only rememeber it wsa a male poster. It just didn't work - not just didn't stop the pills but left the hospital and
still was in W/D's so maybe it's where you go to have it done.
In article, it said that you had to sign forms saying that you wouldn't leave there and not do any follow-up - you had to have a plan and they had to be in on it even though out of state. So, like I say, it sounded wonderful.
It does sound easy but with me - nothing with addiction has ever been easy.
Jean
Since reading this board, someone had it done besides the new person and it sounded like a nightmare. This new person makes it sound like it worked for her - I know you can't just leave there and forget about drugs - you need to find out about yourself and follow up with therapy, meetings, something or you will start again but I was just wanting to avoid those W/D's - I wish if the person is still reading, they will post their story again, I can only rememeber it wsa a male poster. It just didn't work - not just didn't stop the pills but left the hospital and
still was in W/D's so maybe it's where you go to have it done.
In article, it said that you had to sign forms saying that you wouldn't leave there and not do any follow-up - you had to have a plan and they had to be in on it even though out of state. So, like I say, it sounded wonderful.
It does sound easy but with me - nothing with addiction has ever been easy.
Jean
Hey Gladiator...
So have you went to rapid detox or are you going to go?
I think a good person to help you with this if you havent is tim.
Let me know. I will do a post for him.
So have you went to rapid detox or are you going to go?
I think a good person to help you with this if you havent is tim.
Let me know. I will do a post for him.
well gladiator... are you doing counseling now... ?... you dont have to wait you know if your not....
oh and btw.... rapid detox is very had on the body... you actually come close to death...which is why you are are on breathing machines and are chemically paralized.... sorry you had such a rough time with the ct method... I did it off a 300-350mg a day hydro habit with when I could get them 20-40 mg hydomorph thrown in for good measure... and that w/d sort of helps keep me grounded and helps me know the hell that awaits me if I pick it up again.... my w/d was bad but nothing compared to the hell I put my family through so in a way my mind set wasnt on anyone but on getting through it and moving on.... I think a good mind set and just knowing it isnt forever is the key for most.... but anyway.....
rapid detox is risky and expensive ... but whatever works....I hope I never have to make that choice again.... but I am sure I would ct just the same...
anyhoo...... counseling is an excellent idea...
teresa
oh and btw.... rapid detox is very had on the body... you actually come close to death...which is why you are are on breathing machines and are chemically paralized.... sorry you had such a rough time with the ct method... I did it off a 300-350mg a day hydro habit with when I could get them 20-40 mg hydomorph thrown in for good measure... and that w/d sort of helps keep me grounded and helps me know the hell that awaits me if I pick it up again.... my w/d was bad but nothing compared to the hell I put my family through so in a way my mind set wasnt on anyone but on getting through it and moving on.... I think a good mind set and just knowing it isnt forever is the key for most.... but anyway.....
rapid detox is risky and expensive ... but whatever works....I hope I never have to make that choice again.... but I am sure I would ct just the same...
anyhoo...... counseling is an excellent idea...
teresa
Dear Gladiator,
I was one who tried to go ct several times and I just couldnt do it. I then found a great dr who helped me get clean with sub. I wouldnt recommend to anyone to go through rapid detox when sub is available. you still must do the work to stay clean, meetings, face to face , etc but it is worth it.........
Best wishes.....Shel
I was one who tried to go ct several times and I just couldnt do it. I then found a great dr who helped me get clean with sub. I wouldnt recommend to anyone to go through rapid detox when sub is available. you still must do the work to stay clean, meetings, face to face , etc but it is worth it.........
Best wishes.....Shel
There is a mile of difference and a handful of other options between going cold turkey and doing a rapid detox, its not one or the other.
Rapid detox is expensive, risky and has no better drop out rate than a while range of other options including a simple 2 week Subutex detox. Everyone has to make their own decisions but IMHO a rapid detox is a dangerous waste of money.
Excerpts from the Australian Treatment Options for Opioid Users
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A lot of people have unrealistic hopes about rapid detox. Research shows the
chances of completing detox and starting naltrexone treatment are higher with rapid detox than with other methods (e.g. clonidine and other medicines, detox using buprenorphine). But, rapid detox does not work any better when it comes to staying on naltrexone and stopping heroin use in the long-term (i.e. a few months after detox).
Issues to consider about rapid detoxification Rapid detox does shorten the most intense part of withdrawal, but symptoms can continue for several days after the procedure, and be quite severe. For this reason, all rapid detoxification procedures must be carried out by specialist drug and alcohol personnel who can care for people as in-patients in case of bad reactions.
Rapid detox can cost up to several thousand dollars at some private clinics
depending on whats included in the program, for example, counselling and
naltrexone tablets needed after the procedure.
Because of the risks and costs, rapid detox is not available in most states in the
public health system - it is mostly done through private clinics. Be aware that
naltrexone is not currently registered for rapid detox. It is very important that treatment providers inform people fully of the possible risks of rapid detox (in
writing) and other treatment options.
Rapid detox is expensive, risky and has no better drop out rate than a while range of other options including a simple 2 week Subutex detox. Everyone has to make their own decisions but IMHO a rapid detox is a dangerous waste of money.
Excerpts from the Australian Treatment Options for Opioid Users
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A lot of people have unrealistic hopes about rapid detox. Research shows the
chances of completing detox and starting naltrexone treatment are higher with rapid detox than with other methods (e.g. clonidine and other medicines, detox using buprenorphine). But, rapid detox does not work any better when it comes to staying on naltrexone and stopping heroin use in the long-term (i.e. a few months after detox).
Issues to consider about rapid detoxification Rapid detox does shorten the most intense part of withdrawal, but symptoms can continue for several days after the procedure, and be quite severe. For this reason, all rapid detoxification procedures must be carried out by specialist drug and alcohol personnel who can care for people as in-patients in case of bad reactions.
Rapid detox can cost up to several thousand dollars at some private clinics
depending on whats included in the program, for example, counselling and
naltrexone tablets needed after the procedure.
Because of the risks and costs, rapid detox is not available in most states in the
public health system - it is mostly done through private clinics. Be aware that
naltrexone is not currently registered for rapid detox. It is very important that treatment providers inform people fully of the possible risks of rapid detox (in
writing) and other treatment options.
I tried Suboxone awhile back and got sick as a dog, i will probably give Suboxone another shot before a rapid detox, i just don't wanna go cold turkey again lol )-:
