.......that was magically deleted?
I think it's rather ludicrous to debate what method you get sober.Whatever way gets you sober and clean is the right way.If standing on Mt.Kilamanjaro and howling brings you closer to peace,howl away.....and bring me the tape so I can listen to it.
I am a member of NA but in no way am I a radical.The 12 steps have worked in my life but I also incorporate some Eastern philosophies and therapy into my program.I share what works for me.
One thing that I have to watch is not to PROMOTE it.I have made that mistake.The program of NA and AA is a program of attraction.
I agree with a lot of what I read in the following post.I never have thought that a constant diet of anything is productive.I will walk out of a meeting that is nothing but drunkalogs.I want to hear solutions.
I have to remove myself from this bulletin board occasionally because it can get toxic.Reminiscing ad infinatum about your DOC is counterproductive.Changing your thought processes IMO is the only way to break destructive cycles.
Wherever you can attain that goal is not the issue.
Wow, the whole thread's gone!
Would someone mind explaining why?
JASD was asking for help. There was nothing in the thread that ran counter to that request and now he/she's had all that help deleted? I don't understand.
I saw someone said that they provide professional help. If there's a rule against promoting commercial services I can understand that post being deleted because it was mentioned that the person provides help for money, but I see no harm in someone stating that and also posting here. Surely it's content that matters?
Btw, M, those two questions at the bottom of the post were excellent. They made me laugh at myself and I found them very helpful to me, so thanks.
Martin
Would someone mind explaining why?
JASD was asking for help. There was nothing in the thread that ran counter to that request and now he/she's had all that help deleted? I don't understand.
I saw someone said that they provide professional help. If there's a rule against promoting commercial services I can understand that post being deleted because it was mentioned that the person provides help for money, but I see no harm in someone stating that and also posting here. Surely it's content that matters?
Btw, M, those two questions at the bottom of the post were excellent. They made me laugh at myself and I found them very helpful to me, so thanks.
Martin
Thanks mods. Next time I'll wait more than thirty seconds before asking what's happened.....lol
Martin
Martin
Hi Tim, Hi Martin.
Loved this bit
" I think it's rather ludicrous to debate what method you get sober.Whatever way gets you sober and clean is the right way.If standing on Mt.Kilimanjaro and howling brings you closer to peace,howl away.....and bring me the tape so I can listen to it."
What every gets you sober, what ever keeps you sober.
My way is The AA way, Left to my own devices I know what will happen.
I'm learning Tolerance, Understanding, and putting up healthy boundaries with certain members of my family and associates in my life.
I'm human, I will make mistakes.......... Step 10 it :-)
Loved this bit
" I think it's rather ludicrous to debate what method you get sober.Whatever way gets you sober and clean is the right way.If standing on Mt.Kilimanjaro and howling brings you closer to peace,howl away.....and bring me the tape so I can listen to it."
What every gets you sober, what ever keeps you sober.
My way is The AA way, Left to my own devices I know what will happen.
I'm learning Tolerance, Understanding, and putting up healthy boundaries with certain members of my family and associates in my life.
I'm human, I will make mistakes.......... Step 10 it :-)
