Evening peeps, need a bit of advice. I've been getting Clare Dihydrocodeine(TO ANY POLICE WATCHING MY NAMES NOT KEV THIS IS ALL FALSE I'M A LONELY 50 YEAR OLD CALLED PEDRO NEEDING ATTENTION LOL) tabs the past week as she is(telling me) wanting to stop taking the H. As far as i know this week(we've been in each others company every night) she hasn't had any H. I know DF'S is still an addictive drug but it's better than the H, eh? she is going to taper down in the next fortnight then when she is down to 2 tabs a day( 30 - 60 mg) she is going to stay with me to do a rattle.
Am i doing the right thing? if i don't she will score, she has told me this... that is a start,eh? admittance. But at the end of the day i'm still giving her drugs....I don't want to get her them but i don't want her smoking...
Amity, Diff,ZG, Bryn, Emz(sorry if i've missed any1 out, can't go over posts and paste, dodgy comp) i didn't listen to yous the first time, well i did,but i aquiesced to her good looks n charm n now i'm seeing her again and things are getting quite.....well i really like her. My heads up my a***. What do i do?
Hey Kev, there is no right or wrong. Either it will work or it won't. But please please don't sacrifice your own recovery for her. For me, I'd never have got involved. One thing I learned is to be totally selfish about my recovery. If someone I was close to got into heroin, I'd phuck 'em off quick smart. It's a precious thing and a great achievement. I value it as much as anything else in my life except my daughter who is first in everything.
I think you're on very thin ice. I know how easy it is for two addicts to talk each other into "just having one hit". The thing you have to ask yourself is how strong is your resolve to stay off heroin. And be honest, be brutally honest. Is there a little part of you (and I already know there is, coz it lives inside every addict, even one like me who's been off the gear for a few years) that wants to be lead astray, and is looking for an excuse to get loaded. But how much control do you have over your addict within? Mine is chained to floor, locked in a cage and muzzled at all times, so although it lives, there would have to be some sort of catastrophic event for it to break free.
You know that you're going against all rational advice. But only you know if it's wrong or right.
And hey, if it all goes pearshaped, then you can always come and sample my good looks and charm - I've got a spare muzzle, and room in "the cage" for another disgruntled addiction! Kev, I jest with you, but you sound like a really decent fella, and I'd hate to see you all phucked up, after coming such a long way...
take care
love
DiffyDaffyDuck x
I think you're on very thin ice. I know how easy it is for two addicts to talk each other into "just having one hit". The thing you have to ask yourself is how strong is your resolve to stay off heroin. And be honest, be brutally honest. Is there a little part of you (and I already know there is, coz it lives inside every addict, even one like me who's been off the gear for a few years) that wants to be lead astray, and is looking for an excuse to get loaded. But how much control do you have over your addict within? Mine is chained to floor, locked in a cage and muzzled at all times, so although it lives, there would have to be some sort of catastrophic event for it to break free.
You know that you're going against all rational advice. But only you know if it's wrong or right.
And hey, if it all goes pearshaped, then you can always come and sample my good looks and charm - I've got a spare muzzle, and room in "the cage" for another disgruntled addiction! Kev, I jest with you, but you sound like a really decent fella, and I'd hate to see you all phucked up, after coming such a long way...
take care
love
DiffyDaffyDuck x
Hey Kev,
As Diff said there aint no right or wrong and everyone is different but I think its a good thing that she is wanting help and also that you are helping her. Yes you are getting her tablets, but suppose its better than helping her get gear eh?
If she works at it stick by her and be there for her, if she doesnt stick to her word then dont be taken for a fool like myself. And please please dont be dragged into it yourself.
Take care and keep us posted.
Oh also could you give me advice on using df's to come off gear....maybe ask your friend how many she is intending to take, how often and for how long. Its a route knob sack is looking into but thats how he got onto heroin in the first place!!!
Anyway good luck xx
As Diff said there aint no right or wrong and everyone is different but I think its a good thing that she is wanting help and also that you are helping her. Yes you are getting her tablets, but suppose its better than helping her get gear eh?
If she works at it stick by her and be there for her, if she doesnt stick to her word then dont be taken for a fool like myself. And please please dont be dragged into it yourself.
Take care and keep us posted.
Oh also could you give me advice on using df's to come off gear....maybe ask your friend how many she is intending to take, how often and for how long. Its a route knob sack is looking into but thats how he got onto heroin in the first place!!!
Anyway good luck xx
Also could you email me at lyndsayg425@talktalk.net. Would like to ask you question but I dont like to post it on here.
Thanks xx
Thanks xx
first things first....it has went pearshaped, diff i'm coming to get ya LOL
Do you know what? it is starting to piss me off. she is away to stay the night at her mates ( the two of them use together, always have) she said she isn't going to " i've no money i promise you ) B******* The two of you are right i dont need this in my life. Diff, i don't know how close i am to a relapse... the first thing i do every morning is make coffee, then take naltrexone.....That is the only thing that keeps me clean. I really mean this hand on heart, if i find out she is smoking or even has i'm out of there. It'll hurt, but not as much as a smack habit
Lynds i'll send you my email add, i'll answer any q's i can. Cheers for the replies ladies, Kev
Do you know what? it is starting to piss me off. she is away to stay the night at her mates ( the two of them use together, always have) she said she isn't going to " i've no money i promise you ) B******* The two of you are right i dont need this in my life. Diff, i don't know how close i am to a relapse... the first thing i do every morning is make coffee, then take naltrexone.....That is the only thing that keeps me clean. I really mean this hand on heart, if i find out she is smoking or even has i'm out of there. It'll hurt, but not as much as a smack habit
Lynds i'll send you my email add, i'll answer any q's i can. Cheers for the replies ladies, Kev
Kev, you sure as hell don't need s*** like that. You, going out of your way, putting your own recovery in jeapody, just to be lied to (does she really think that you're gonna believe that? Rule No. 1 - you can't shyte a shyter!) and treated like some kind of imbecile. You're been taken for a ride my friend.
There are loads of nice women who don't have habits, and aren't judgemental about your past. I know this to be true because I used to be one (LOL). Well I am one again I guess, but although I'm not judgemental about peoples pasts, I just don't want to go out with another addict - I think it would bring back too many bad memories. Although the advantage would be that you'd never have to explain the past. Not that I do anyway. My boyfriend, he doesn't want to know, and I don't want to tell him. But we have a terrible relationship anyway. We're not talking again. He just can't seem to stop moaning about me. Moaning coz he found a piece of sweetcorn on the floor this morning. Moaning coz the washing up bowl had an orange ring round it from the ratatouille I made to go with the lamb chops (which he ate a day late coz he wasn't talking to me on Monday). Moaning coz I rang him up whilst he was in the pub drinking and had a go coz he said he was going to be home two hours ago. I'd made Surf and Turf! So I ate that alone - again. When he finally came home three hours after he said he was gonna be home, he had a go at me saying that I was "so annoying" and stormed off to bed. I can't see the point of being with him, coz he seems to find complaint about just about everything I do and say, in bed he's about as enthusiastic as a sack of spuds these days, he's on my case about so many stupid things. I just want to throttle him most of the time. And I can't forget about the hell he put me through when I was pregnant - it was relentless, and damned near pushed me over the edge, verbal, physical and emotional abuse, making me sleep on the streets, hitting me, putting me down all the time. He's a twat. So with this in mind, maybe you'd better not take any relationship advice from me, coz I'm a total reject!
take care buddy
love
diff x
There are loads of nice women who don't have habits, and aren't judgemental about your past. I know this to be true because I used to be one (LOL). Well I am one again I guess, but although I'm not judgemental about peoples pasts, I just don't want to go out with another addict - I think it would bring back too many bad memories. Although the advantage would be that you'd never have to explain the past. Not that I do anyway. My boyfriend, he doesn't want to know, and I don't want to tell him. But we have a terrible relationship anyway. We're not talking again. He just can't seem to stop moaning about me. Moaning coz he found a piece of sweetcorn on the floor this morning. Moaning coz the washing up bowl had an orange ring round it from the ratatouille I made to go with the lamb chops (which he ate a day late coz he wasn't talking to me on Monday). Moaning coz I rang him up whilst he was in the pub drinking and had a go coz he said he was going to be home two hours ago. I'd made Surf and Turf! So I ate that alone - again. When he finally came home three hours after he said he was gonna be home, he had a go at me saying that I was "so annoying" and stormed off to bed. I can't see the point of being with him, coz he seems to find complaint about just about everything I do and say, in bed he's about as enthusiastic as a sack of spuds these days, he's on my case about so many stupid things. I just want to throttle him most of the time. And I can't forget about the hell he put me through when I was pregnant - it was relentless, and damned near pushed me over the edge, verbal, physical and emotional abuse, making me sleep on the streets, hitting me, putting me down all the time. He's a twat. So with this in mind, maybe you'd better not take any relationship advice from me, coz I'm a total reject!
take care buddy
love
diff x
Who wouldn't fall for a woman's charm and beauty?We wield a great power me thinks, Kev.
AND what the heck is a PEDRO? LOL Lonely at 50.....I can't even begin to guess.
Kev, well Clare's already shown the true colors that each of us know so well....ain't it weird you KNOW but ya DON'T........you did it yourself, but hope Clare won't..........plus, Kev.........you can be with her 24/7.....and she could still be using.........you know how we do........all sneaky.......and yeah if she's with that friend OF COURSE.........swear all ya want........I mean I;d hope she wasn't, BUT..........if she wanted to show you it's worth your time, effort and good caring heart.........she should have skipped her friends house....in my opinion anyways.
PLUS, if that mom finds out...........OH BOY........and you so will be blamed....absolutely.........somehow it will come back to you and you ain't needing that.........you sure do care for Clare I know..........maybe you can tell her......."Look you get a little time under your belt, and we'll talk".....but ultimately it's up to you, Kev..
Us ladies here I think since we are the female persuasion.......we know how it goes..........in fact I saw a little cartoon the other day........two little kids....a boy and a girl........and the little girl is pointing to her undies and the little boy is all looking like entranced..........and the caption read "And with this I will RULE your entire life"..........it was cute.....not garish or fresh.......and I thought "Man, ain't that the truth"............not saying you're that shallow, Kev, but it does have alot to do with appeal and such..........I'm trusting you'll do what is best to keep you clean........I know you will.
AND what the heck is a PEDRO? LOL Lonely at 50.....I can't even begin to guess.
Kev, well Clare's already shown the true colors that each of us know so well....ain't it weird you KNOW but ya DON'T........you did it yourself, but hope Clare won't..........plus, Kev.........you can be with her 24/7.....and she could still be using.........you know how we do........all sneaky.......and yeah if she's with that friend OF COURSE.........swear all ya want........I mean I;d hope she wasn't, BUT..........if she wanted to show you it's worth your time, effort and good caring heart.........she should have skipped her friends house....in my opinion anyways.
PLUS, if that mom finds out...........OH BOY........and you so will be blamed....absolutely.........somehow it will come back to you and you ain't needing that.........you sure do care for Clare I know..........maybe you can tell her......."Look you get a little time under your belt, and we'll talk".....but ultimately it's up to you, Kev..
Us ladies here I think since we are the female persuasion.......we know how it goes..........in fact I saw a little cartoon the other day........two little kids....a boy and a girl........and the little girl is pointing to her undies and the little boy is all looking like entranced..........and the caption read "And with this I will RULE your entire life"..........it was cute.....not garish or fresh.......and I thought "Man, ain't that the truth"............not saying you're that shallow, Kev, but it does have alot to do with appeal and such..........I'm trusting you'll do what is best to keep you clean........I know you will.
SEE ABOVE POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HERE'S WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RUN RUN RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN, KEV RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SCRAM, SKEEDADDLE, SLIP SLIDE AWAY AND HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAH, I'm kidding, but maybe not.......if I didn't know ya I'd say that, Kev.
HERE'S WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RUN RUN RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN, KEV RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SCRAM, SKEEDADDLE, SLIP SLIDE AWAY AND HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAH, I'm kidding, but maybe not.......if I didn't know ya I'd say that, Kev.
kev my opinion is i think it will put a lot of temptation on your shoulders im not saying you will start back with the h but its not good for you for it to be in your face , and also i think for her to go to her using friends is oh so not good if she really wants to get clean she should stay away from other junkies all of you know that so kev i think she is pulling a fast one although i could be wrong .Just be careful we dont want ya heart getting broken xxx
dIFF " YOU'RE BEEN TAKIN FOR A RIDE" ... i hope you're wrong... But, i read all your posts, you know what you're talking about. Diff, you don't need that sh** from your man YOU deserve way way better. It sounds like the jack n vera syndrome....moan moan moan.. what is he like? Hitting you? bang out of order.And no, you're not a reject. Don't the b****** get you down difffarama
Bryn, spoke to her today, she said she didn't but like you say i can't be with her all the time. It's messing with my recovery already, was so angry last night took a couple of diazepam cause my head was f****** . Slippery slope?
Emz... broken heart? is that what will happen? I've only had one " girlfriend"( ten year ago) Clare is the first person i've had a "relationship " with since then.... all these "feelings n stuff" is new to me. I know seeing her is wrong.... Oh what !!!! Shooot me now!
Bryn, spoke to her today, she said she didn't but like you say i can't be with her all the time. It's messing with my recovery already, was so angry last night took a couple of diazepam cause my head was f****** . Slippery slope?
Emz... broken heart? is that what will happen? I've only had one " girlfriend"( ten year ago) Clare is the first person i've had a "relationship " with since then.... all these "feelings n stuff" is new to me. I know seeing her is wrong.... Oh what !!!! Shooot me now!
O.k ...Kev...ya took a few benzos...not that much of a big deal,i can understand yer waryness about going out with her ..but its obvious you have a lot of feelings for her...she just might be worth taking a chance on...set some ground rules..i know as Diff so elquontly(sp) put it ya cant s*** a bulls***ter.Just go slow mate...youve been outta the dating game LOL...awhile so its natural that all this feels weird.Either way best of luck...just not in the footie........Davey
Oy Vey, Kev at least ya recognized why ya took the benzo's.......you were mad.
I'm betting almost none of us ever dealt with feelings........like processed them like other people........I'm afraid........get me a bag......I'm mad........get me a bag and drink some Ny-Quil..........you know how we do.
Kev, I hate to talk like a bumper sticker, BUT:
Somebody will get us high before we get them clean.
Think that's how they say it........and I'm with Davey in that she certainly may be the one........take a chance........but not a chance that'll mess with you.
Heart break.............heck NO........we're recovering heroin addicts, and we got no HEART.........LOL.......I so love emz........ain't nobody can break a heart I don't think after being out there..
WE BROKE OUR OWN D*MN HEARTS!!!!!!! Oh and if ya ever have kids....they can lay it on ya and break it up to make it non existant........otherwise, Kev you watch out for NUMBERO UNO!
I'm betting almost none of us ever dealt with feelings........like processed them like other people........I'm afraid........get me a bag......I'm mad........get me a bag and drink some Ny-Quil..........you know how we do.
Kev, I hate to talk like a bumper sticker, BUT:
Somebody will get us high before we get them clean.
Think that's how they say it........and I'm with Davey in that she certainly may be the one........take a chance........but not a chance that'll mess with you.
Heart break.............heck NO........we're recovering heroin addicts, and we got no HEART.........LOL.......I so love emz........ain't nobody can break a heart I don't think after being out there..
WE BROKE OUR OWN D*MN HEARTS!!!!!!! Oh and if ya ever have kids....they can lay it on ya and break it up to make it non existant........otherwise, Kev you watch out for NUMBERO UNO!
Hey Hey, how is everyone on this fine fri? Benevolent? Hope so!
So, with Clare last night. (way unlike me) told her that i really liked her, but if she is still gonna use then i can't be with her period. I told her, " don't think i'm asking you to choose, i'm not, i just need to think of me 1st" We had a really good talk n that....we'll see what happens. I'm willing to give her a (one only) chance.................. He who dares rodders , he who dares...LOL
So, with Clare last night. (way unlike me) told her that i really liked her, but if she is still gonna use then i can't be with her period. I told her, " don't think i'm asking you to choose, i'm not, i just need to think of me 1st" We had a really good talk n that....we'll see what happens. I'm willing to give her a (one only) chance.................. He who dares rodders , he who dares...LOL
kev good luck mate and look after NO 1 xxxxx
Dear Kev, I don't know all your history with this girl, but I have to ask you why you think that being around her, helping her get another drug that is also addicting, will not eventually undo any progress you have made in your own struggle? Enabling her is not helping her, and it is putting you at risk of relapsing.
Slippery slope?? you bet!.
Please don't think I am putting you down, I just don't know how to be less blunt.
take care.
rita
Slippery slope?? you bet!.
Please don't think I am putting you down, I just don't know how to be less blunt.
take care.
rita
Rita, thanks for the post... the reason i'm doing it is she is tapering down and by the las week in sep will be down to just a couple of tabs them hopefully will come off everything...if not i'm gone...Rita. myself, Mum, sista's and nice and nephews come first in my life.... Smack took them away from me...will not let that happen againNO ONE. Thanks, and take care, Kev
Aight what is RODDERS........LOL........Kev, Rita is the nicest lady....she cares about us..........we're fortunate here to have mom's that care on the board.
Keep us posted, son..........and don't be roddering.....I think.
Keep us posted, son..........and don't be roddering.....I think.
Kev, I'm everything and more, that Bryn said hahaha
I loved reading that you would not let anyone come between you and the people you love most, again.
Good for you. I'll say a little prayer for your lady, and for you.
rita
PS yeah, what is "rodder"
I loved reading that you would not let anyone come between you and the people you love most, again.
Good for you. I'll say a little prayer for your lady, and for you.
rita
PS yeah, what is "rodder"
Rodders, as in Rodney Trotter, Del Boy's little brother. Do I have to explain everything to you unenlightened Doodle Dandies?
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Diff x
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Diff x
LOL Diff ha ha
Rita,thank you. God bless, say a couple for me.... i need them haha...
Derek Trotter's motto is " HE WHO DARES" 100% he always says it to his dopey younger brother rodney...;
Rita,thank you. God bless, say a couple for me.... i need them haha...
Derek Trotter's motto is " HE WHO DARES" 100% he always says it to his dopey younger brother rodney...;
